- 11-15-2012, 07:46 AM #1
HTC seems to have put alot of detail and effort into the overall design of the 8x, but feature wise it seems that the masses aren't seeing it stack up even against a 822 or 820. The main faults for the 8x, not enough storage, not en expandable storage slot, and no removable battery. Had they added a few of these options, I believe they could sell more and not have people on the fence tip over to the other side. I know some of you on the forums don't have a choice in get what is being touted as the TRUE flagship of Windows Phone 8, the L920. Do you folks think HTC really messed up their chances in getting themselves a boost in WP8 sales or is it still way to early to speculate? I myself am still considering getting the 8x again simply because of the size. This Nokia 920 is cool and all, but when I stuff it in my pocket, or go jogging, I can definitely feel the difference. I'm so ambivalent on whether I want features over ergonomics.
Your thoughts? Is this an HTC FailX or is there still some saving grace in the 8x?
And how soon do you think HTC releases an improved version of the 8x?
11-15-2012, 07:55 AM #2
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I think it is a stopgap phone, just ready in time for the launch of WP8 phones. I fully expect to see an updated version announced within 6 months.
Don't get me wrong, though - I love the 8X and I think it is a great phone. There is plenty of room for improvement, though - and this is true for the 920 as well. Think of them as a great foundation to build upon.
While I was deciding between the 920 and the 8X, one of the main factors was the fact that (imo) both of these phones will be obsolete within 6 months. Nokia will release a new "flagship" with maybe a smaller form factor (or at least thinner!) and HTC will release another 8X-type phone (8XL anyone?) with probably a bigger screen, to compete with the Android willy-wavers.
Just my opinion of course - but in the end I chose the cheaper 8X, assuming that whichever phone I get it'll be outdated within 6 months, so I'm not really missing out on anything if I don't get the 920.
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11-15-2012, 08:19 AM #4
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A non-removable battery never holds the iPhone back, and i bet the iPhone with the lowest storage sells far far more units than the higher storage versions.
Just look at the drop tests of the Galaxy S3. The cost of removable storage and removable battery, is a flimsy phone.
To be honest, i think HTC did a brilliant job. Its a beautiful phone, at a reasonable price, with a very hand friendly shape, and stuff like the Beats amp and super fast camera will appeal to a large number of people.
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11-15-2012, 08:51 AM #12
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In hindsight, I obviously should have waited, but, well, I'm super impatient and I'd had my HD7 for way too long - it was getting a little elderly :p
- 11-15-2012, 09:02 AM #13
On topic, I agree with spiff_p239 that to the tech geek, the HTC 8X is underwhelming. However, to the average consumer I also think that this phone looks great (with the correct pricing of course)! I showed the HTC phones to my cousin and he likes them better than the Lumia actually. Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder :D
Also I'm really confused about the pricing of the 8X in the US. It's more expensive than the 920, which actually has a LOT more to offer!
BTW, I'm not biased to the 920, I'm getting an 8X :D
11-15-2012, 09:23 AM #15
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I think the 8X is a nice device. Beautiful.
I was all set to switch from T-Mo to AT&T for the 920, but then I held both devices in my hand.
I started with a Dell Venue Pro (which broke) then switched to T-Mo's Lumia 710, just to have a phone between phones. I love all the Nokia exclusives (especially Nokia Drive), but when weighed against the 8X's form factor and a cheaper data monthly plan I decided to go with the 8X which I'll pick up this week.
I do believe like, shinygerbil, that better phones will come within the year, so I won't have any issue upgrading again.
The 8X has all the basic features I need and is a step up from both my DVP and Lumia 710 in specs.
11-15-2012, 09:37 AM #16
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Great post with some interesting questions!
- 11-15-2012, 10:32 AM #18
No. I don't.
I had an L920 and I loved it; overheating and loss of connectivity issues brought me back to the AT&T store where I was planning on swapping out for a new L920, but I wanted to take a look at the 8X while I was there.
It's an amazing phone. Heads and tails lighter than the L920 with an only marginally smaller screen. Almost identical performance in every way. The lack of a replaceable battery (in either phone) is a non-issue for me; I've been on iPhones for the last since-the-first-day-of-the-3GS years. The smaller storage in the 8X is also a non-issue; I use my phone more for messaging and keeping-in-the-know than as a media device, so I never dump a bunch of music and videos on it (my last phone, a 32gb iPhone 4, had a total of about 6gb of stuff on it, including all the pics I'd snapped since I got it). While I loved the L920, I lusted after the 8X.
So I swapped the L920 for an 8X and I'm super happy. :)
- 11-15-2012, 11:40 AM #19
Well, I'm glad there are some positive sentiments about the 8x. The forums kneel down to the 920 and the top guys of WPcentral have seemed to dismiss it seeing as they barely mention it lately. I thought this was WPcentral. Not Nokia WP central. :lol:
- 11-15-2012, 11:49 AM #20
I am not sure comparing it to the the lumia really matters - what is more important is how the HTC DNA sells and how the overall wp8 marketshare progresses, if the DNA sells well and the response to WP8 is as poor as it was to Wp7, then really who cares? It is like being the winner in a school football match, your family will care but nobody else.
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11-15-2012, 11:53 AM #21
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The 8X is significantly cheaper than the current Sim Free Lumia 920's that we are seeing. In fact in a lot of places it is cheaper than the Lumia 820.
So there is definitely a very good hardware value proposition with the 8X (specs wise).
It also a very ergonomic and beautiful phone with some unique features which people will like.
It definitely falls down in the software area though. HTC definitely haven't provided as much "out of the box" value added to the OS. It feels a bit rushed in that respect and I'm sure we'll see them add back in some functionality that was previously available.
Don't compare it with the Lumia 920 unless you are in the US. For the rest of the world, the 8X competes with the Lumia 820, and its almost certainly the better phone in that fight.
- 11-15-2012, 12:02 PM #22
RIM will soon be releasing BlackBerry 10 (heh, supposedly) and RIM has a LOT of die-hards. If WP8 can squash BB10 and win over those die-hards, MS will have clinched that third option. I think that's who they should be targeting with their marketing, personally.
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11-15-2012, 01:16 PM #25
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the biggest fear most regular consumers have is the investment most people who buy apps and other things on their phone want to be able to keep it like if i spend $200 on ios apps then switch to android you lose that investment so most people dont want to jump into windows phone and watch it go the way of WebOS and have nothing to show for it so it makes most people skiddish but now seeing the cross platform unifying of metro i think it will make it firmiliar and give people some security in windows phone 8 that it will stick around and i think it has the potential to really be a rival force for apple and the android platforms