Was Glance the Reason the Icon was "Delayed?"

[savagelizards]

Day 11 with my Icon, and I am becoming quite happy with it. The only major frustration I still feel is when my phone chimes for some reason or other and I have to drop what I am doing and head to the start screen and begin scanning tiles to find out why. Hopefully 8.1 will solve that, but as a WP newbie I have been scanning the threads and noticing how many posts there are from folks with 928s and 822s who won't make the move to the Icon without glance support.

After rolling this around in my mind, I was reading a post on cases and I recalled that when I was in the Verizon store they had several different cases for the Icon, and the rep remarked that they never had that many cases available for a phone on launch - even for the Galaxy S4. I remember at the time thinking that that's because everyone was expecting the phone to hit the market a month or more earlier (remember all those "leaked launched dates" that came and went without the phone even being acknowledged by Verizon?).

So I am putting two and two together and speculating that something on the phone was failing testing, thus causing the phone to miss planned launch dates, and that those failures were somehow traced back to the Glance feature. After failing to overcome the issue, Glance was then disabled so the phone could launch. Thus the explanation about "hardware limitations" and the comment that Glance could still be available at a future date.

Pure speculation here, but my guess is that Nokia tried to fix it and just couldn't - so we shouldn't be expecting Glance support in the future.

How do you feel about Icon if Glance is never available? Do you think the Glance issue delayed the phone, and if so do you still expect the feature to make an appearance?

 

[TheJoester09]

I don't think this assumption is too big of a leap. If we never get Glance I'll be a bit disappointed, but so far this is still the best phone I've ever owned so I won't complain too much. Adding Glance would just be icing on the cake.

 

[11B1P]

Unless someone here works for Nokia/MS/Verizon, asking this question is pointless. We're end-users here. We have no idea why the launch was delayed.

 

[Twice Born]

I hope they can get glance working. If they get it working, I will almost certainly go switch to the Edge plan and get it that day.

 

[three_thoughts]

Lack of glance must be a technical problem. It wouldn't make sense for low end phones like the 620 to get it but a flagship not get it in any other situation.

 

[vlad0]

It has to be the amoled screen, but it doesn't make any sense since I've been using "glance" on amoled screens since 2010 (nokia n8)

 

[DennisvdG]

I expect Nokia to fix it sooner or later, I mean what could be the hardware limitations they are talking about?? I refuse to think this is permanent

 

[slowburnaz]

I expect Nokia to fix it sooner or later, I mean what could be the hardware limitations they are talking about?? I refuse to think this permanent

The supposed reason is a memory limitation with the screen... which makes no sense at all.

 

[DennisvdG]

The supposed reason is a memory limitation with the screen... which makes no sense at all.

yeah wtf, new phones are supposed to be better than old phones so this makes no sense

 

[Kage Maru]

It took me a few days to get used to it, but I don't mind that it's gone. Hopefully they'll bring it back but recent reports of some people experiencing screen burn makes me hesitant to try the feature again.

 

[Lehning]

Isn't this just a limitation from Verizon? I bet that the global (929) variant will have Glance.

 

[primortal]

Isn't this just a limitation from Verizon? I bet that the global (929) variant will have Glance.

If the global variant has Glance heads are going to roll

 

[Lehning]

Oh yes. I live in Sweden so I sure hope that the global variant will have it . In other way, i will pick up a 1520

 

[cbreze]

Since the icon is my first WP, I don't know what I'm missing. It sounds cool and convenient, but I'm ok without it as the rest of the phone features and functions more than make up for it.
​For those who would really like to have it then I hope you get it in an update perhaps.

 

[Kage Maru]

Isn't this just a limitation from Verizon? I bet that the global (929) variant will have Glance.

No, my 928 supported glance. I think it has more to do with a 1080p AMOLED screen.

 

[NoogMan9605]

Coming from a 928 to the Icon, I DO miss the glance, but I'll get over it. Would be nice to not have to check the phone every few to see if I have messages. And I swear I wish we could set the default volume to something higher on reboot. This thing isn't nearly as loud as my 928 at max volume.

 

[savagelizards]

It took me a few days to get used to it, but I don't mind that it's gone. Hopefully they'll bring it back but recent reports of some people experiencing screen burn makes me hesitant to try the feature again.

Could screen burn really be the issue? I never had the feature, but I thought I had read that the image drifted.
I have to admit I am worried about the lack of a good system clock for this phone because of screen burn. Everything I have found in the app store resembles an 80s-style LED display. I like the big numbers but some segments will be illuminated for hours every night. On my last android phone the system clock drifted as a screensaver.

Can anyone recommend a nighttime clock display that won't burn my screen?

 

[cbreze]

I've been using lumina clock deluxe and leave it on all night on dim. Been doing this for the past ten days or so. I this is the first I've heard about screen burn, but have noticed nothing. I'll continue using it.

 

[LumiaIcon]

I have suspected that "glance" was the delay and I believe we will get it.

 

[stephen_az]

Day 11 with my Icon, and I am becoming quite happy with it. The only major frustration I still feel is when my phone chimes for some reason or other and I have to drop what I am doing and head to the start screen and begin scanning tiles to find out why. Hopefully 8.1 will solve that, but as a WP newbie I have been scanning the threads and noticing how many posts there are from folks with 928s and 822s who won't make the move to the Icon without glance support.

After rolling this around in my mind, I was reading a post on cases and I recalled that when I was in the Verizon store they had several different cases for the Icon, and the rep remarked that they never had that many cases available for a phone on launch - even for the Galaxy S4. I remember at the time thinking that that's because everyone was expecting the phone to hit the market a month or more earlier (remember all those "leaked launched dates" that came and went without the phone even being acknowledged by Verizon?).

So I am putting two and two together and speculating that something on the phone was failing testing, thus causing the phone to miss planned launch dates, and that those failures were somehow traced back to the Glance feature. After failing to overcome the issue, Glance was then disabled so the phone could launch. Thus the explanation about "hardware limitations" and the comment that Glance could still be available at a future date.

Pure speculation here, but my guess is that Nokia tried to fix it and just couldn't - so we shouldn't be expecting Glance support in the future.

How do you feel about Icon if Glance is never available? Do you think the Glance issue delayed the phone, and if so do you still expect the feature to make an appearance?

Yes, it is pure speculation. The Icon was only delayed if you buy the position that rumor mill knows release dates. As it stands, the phone was released when VZW said it would be released. Suggesting you are putting two and two together also assumes you have an operational knowledge of VZW decision making. Sorry, unless you work for VZW, you don't have that baseline information. People can speculate all they wish but you are speculating on the basis of assumptions tied to unsubstantiated rumors put forth by people who like to see their name in print.