Rhody#WP
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It COULD be part of the reason but there are so many other things.
There we go. Now we're having a civil conversation. Awesome!
It COULD be part of the reason but there are so many other things.
OK then if Computer OS and phone OS are two different things....why do you think that's the issue?
It goes two ways! Just because "everybody" disagrees with me that the name is what's wrong doesn't mean it's true! It IS a FACT that the name isn't the single reason that WP isn't blowing up. The OS just doesn't offer enough to drag people away from what they already love. It COULD be part of the reason but there are so many other things.
1) lack of proper bluetooth
2) lack of marketing
3) lack of features people want e.g micro SD support, flash support.
4) possibly Windows Mobile (but joe bloggs in the street doesn't care about that. neither do teenage girls who want to facebook and text their friends). Tech people who know about the failure that was windows mobile AREN'T the only people who want to buy phones!
Maybe you should open YOUR mind to the possibility that not everyone cares that it has the windows name. You can't blame it all on a name!
I wasn't the one who said it was an issue I was just elaborating on what the poster you commented on said. Go ask people who have used windows mobile what they think of it and I guarantee most of them will talk about how bad it was and all the issues. It is as simple as that. If everyone did not care about a name then go make a copy of the iphone and see how well it sells..... The name has a lot to do with everything whether you want to open your mind to that or not.
I'll admit that when I use a Windows Phone, I don't think of the traditional Windows experience. However, I'm wondering if Microsoft is trying to change the perception of its entire product line. The only way I'd see them changing the name of Windows Phone is if they remove Windows from Windows 8.
Enough of the "open your mind" BS.
I never said people didn't hate Windows Mobile...I'm saying the MAJORITY of people who want a phone will never have used Windows Mobile and won't know about the negative stigma attached to it. There's a certain group of people who will have ever bought Windows Mobile and that will be "tech" people. Not just your average human being who wants a smartphone.
Obviously there are going to be people who can't stand Mac OS's but will buy an iPhone knowing full well that it's not going to be the same experience.
I know a number of people who used windows mobile and they were far from "tech" people. Not to mention you will have those who have or do not use the windows and would try a wp, same with people that get an iphone but have a windows pc and not a mac.
I totally agree. It's pointless to discuss a name change, because Microsoft has made their objective clear. I think they even expressly stated that they were trying to align Windows Moble/Phone and Windows desktop in number before Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7 came out. Clearly, they're trying to unify the "Windows" experience by using the Metro UI in Windows 8 and Xbox 360.
I think it's a gamble. Their plan will work if they can overcome the obstacle they created by jumping from Windows Mobile 6.5 to Windows Phone 7. They allowed the public to perceive WP7 as a minor update from Windows Mobile. I think they saw that as a necessary risk in order to meet their objective of unifying the three environments (Windows desktop, Windows Phone, and Xbox 360).
Doesn't that show that people are willing to try things regardless of how they feel about a company's previous projects?
Not really. At least in the case of the people I know they all ditched windows mobile and went with an iphone or android and never even gave wp7 a look when it came out.
Probably because they are happy with iOS or Android and have no reason to move to a different OS, unless it offers something new and ground breaking, which unfortunately it doesn't
That is exactly what MS needs to start pushing. What about WP makes people think they should switch or how it can make things just work for them. If they do that, then they will start becoming more main stream.
Agreement! Hurry, mods! Close this thread before it gets nasty again.
Probably because they are happy with iOS or Android and have no reason to move to a different OS, unless it offers something new and ground breaking, which unfortunately it doesn't
The whole OS itself is pretty new and ground breaking. Different than everything else out there. The whole task-centric as opposed to app-centric philosophy is a game changer.
Though a lot of people haven't even given it a try.
It appears to me that MS is relying on OEMs and Carriers to do the marketing.
Don't Windows PCs still outsell and have a large portion of the market? You should go to Mac forums and tell them they're wasting their money and tell Apple to stop making Macs.
The whole OS itself is pretty new and ground breaking. Different than everything else out there. The whole task-centric as opposed to app-centric philosophy is a game changer.
Though a lot of people haven't even given it a try.
Ummm Apple is increasing Mac sales 25% year on year for 5 straight years now. Also Macs take 90% of the profits in that PC segment(> $1000). So comparing a burning platform(WP7) to a thriving one(Macs) is fallacious.