MSFTisMIA
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Here's my issue with these protesters.
It's $2.75 per ride here - bus or subway. Which means $5.50 round trip, which means $27.50 for 5 days if all you're doing is going to one destination (say work/school). Which is $110-$137.50 per month. What if you have to go other places? When I first started to use the MTA, farms were $1.25. Things get adjusted for inflation (and mismanagement). It's expensive getting around. So while that expense is cumbersome, how these protesters are highlighting this issue are ineffective.
- Lots of the ones I saw looked more like Laura and Rue than me. In fact, they looked like suburban teens, college freshmen aged. Not very relatable. So while they could have had experiences similar to people like me, they're not as likely to have those experiences consistently of the profiling and harassment that they are protesting. Plus they're likely not paying for their own rides.
- They're asking for less to no cops in the subway system and free transit. That's some impractical stuff there. NYS has enough issues fully funding the MTA without riders paying. The MTA loses a ton of money from fire evasions - mostly from poor folks who cannot afford the fare due to how expensive the city is. Also, in the outer boroughs where transit options are limited (and incomes are lower out there, making it more likely to see the fare evasion).
- Secondly, while crime is lower in the subway, crime still happens. No cops in the subway leave us vulnerable in the subway. Especially with personal electronic usage so common now in the system. Also, nothing good happens when people have to travel late at night in the subway - I've done it often enough to keep my head on a well greased swivel. Most of the people I see protesting in that group I saw wouldn't dare to be out late in the outer boroughs on the subway.
- More importantly, this was a colossal waste of time to me. There are groups out there actively working with NYPD to improve community relations, especially with brown folks. I doubt many of these protesters are involved in those initiatives. Plus, you've got increased NYPD covering this (time and a half) instead of using resources to do other things.
I stopped by Occupy Wall Street back in the day. Some of the goals for that I supported, although as always some parts of it went awry. This F@$! the police stuff though, nah...
It's $2.75 per ride here - bus or subway. Which means $5.50 round trip, which means $27.50 for 5 days if all you're doing is going to one destination (say work/school). Which is $110-$137.50 per month. What if you have to go other places? When I first started to use the MTA, farms were $1.25. Things get adjusted for inflation (and mismanagement). It's expensive getting around. So while that expense is cumbersome, how these protesters are highlighting this issue are ineffective.
- Lots of the ones I saw looked more like Laura and Rue than me. In fact, they looked like suburban teens, college freshmen aged. Not very relatable. So while they could have had experiences similar to people like me, they're not as likely to have those experiences consistently of the profiling and harassment that they are protesting. Plus they're likely not paying for their own rides.
- They're asking for less to no cops in the subway system and free transit. That's some impractical stuff there. NYS has enough issues fully funding the MTA without riders paying. The MTA loses a ton of money from fire evasions - mostly from poor folks who cannot afford the fare due to how expensive the city is. Also, in the outer boroughs where transit options are limited (and incomes are lower out there, making it more likely to see the fare evasion).
- Secondly, while crime is lower in the subway, crime still happens. No cops in the subway leave us vulnerable in the subway. Especially with personal electronic usage so common now in the system. Also, nothing good happens when people have to travel late at night in the subway - I've done it often enough to keep my head on a well greased swivel. Most of the people I see protesting in that group I saw wouldn't dare to be out late in the outer boroughs on the subway.
- More importantly, this was a colossal waste of time to me. There are groups out there actively working with NYPD to improve community relations, especially with brown folks. I doubt many of these protesters are involved in those initiatives. Plus, you've got increased NYPD covering this (time and a half) instead of using resources to do other things.
I stopped by Occupy Wall Street back in the day. Some of the goals for that I supported, although as always some parts of it went awry. This F@$! the police stuff though, nah...