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    Nokia slams HTC's Windows Phone 8 announcement, calls it a 'tactical re-branding' | The Verge

    "Today is more good news for the Windows Phone ecosystem. While others may choose to tactically re-brand their products, Nokia is driving an industry-leading smartphone franchise that we call Lumia -- exclusively around Windows Phone. With Lumia, we are creating truly differentiated experiences like PureView imaging, location and navigation, wireless charging and Nokia Music. And were just getting started!"
    I'm really starting to get annoyed by their talk.

    First, it's not very classy to diss the competition like that. Samsung and HTC didn't do it to Nokia's announcement.

    Second, HTC provided carrier availability and shipping month information. Nokia still hasn't.

    Rather than put out tweets claiming that HTC 8X "isn't as innovative," why not get your stuff out there with carriers and dates, Nokia?
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    I don't care how nice your phone is if I can't use it. Put your damn high-end phone on Verizon and then we'll talk.
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    Idk, I just think Nokia is having fun! It gets both Nokia's name and WP8 branding out in the public a little more! It also helps get the word out that Nokia isn't the only one in MS' court. None of which is a bad thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thed View Post
    I don't care how nice your phone is if I can't use it. Put your damn high-end phone on Verizon and then we'll talk.
    I agree the trash talking hurts their image as a brand and it makes me feel somewhat uneasy purchasing nokia stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinime View Post
    Idk, I just think Nokia is having fun! It gets both Nokia's name and WP8 branding out in the public a little more! It also helps get the word out that Nokia isn't the only one in MS' court. None of which is a bad thing!
    When I slammed Nokia's disastrous event earlier this month, people complained that I was trolling.

    But now Nokia's *actually* trolling, and it's just fun?

    Yeesh.
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    They aren't the first, nor will they be the last corporation to knock a rival's product.

    If the trash talking leads to more intense competition then I'm all for it.
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    This is simply marketing. I find it amusing, especially the tweet "It takes more than matching color to match the innovation of the Lumia 920."

    Loving it!
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    So if I tweet back "my 8X delivers much better performance than any phone YOU guys sell on my carrier, HTC is the clear choice #lumiasucks" I hope they have the same amount of good humor about it that they expect of us. :D
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    Tweet something like that and who wouldn't laugh.
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    It is all harmless in the end, and maybe as it is 2 weeks later, there is more info that can be released as WP8 has gone RTM. It actually doesn't matter at all which carriers are getting them as we cant buy them so it is a moot point until the devices are released?
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    I *know* my carrier is getting the 8X. I have no IDEA if my carrier is getting anything else.

    In fact, my carrier is now taking PRE-ORDER REGISTRATIONS for the 8X.
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    I don't approve of Nokia talking trash, but if you want to talk about a company that has talked some trash over the years then look no further than the company that makes the operating system. ;)
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    It's normal to make fun at others when your life is ****ty, that way you don't have to look at your own problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brmiller1976 View Post
    I *know* my carrier is getting the 8X. I have no IDEA if my carrier is getting anything else.

    In fact, my carrier is now taking PRE-ORDER REGISTRATIONS for the 8X.
    So why not just do your preorder and let Nokia do what they want? Its not as though people going into a store will suddenly think "ooh, Nokia bashed the 8X, musn't buy it". HTC produced good devices today and you can register for it, that really should be enough, shouldnt it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brmiller1976 View Post
    When I slammed Nokia's disastrous event earlier this month, people complained that I was trolling.



    But now Nokia's *actually* trolling, and it's just fun?



    Yeesh.
    I'm not sure the exact comment you made earlier, so I won't say that you were trolling. But, when Nokia puts down competition, it is marketing. It's expected. Who would come out and say a competitor makes a better product then themselves? Who would say the competition dies it better, but buy our product just because?

    In all honesty, I wasn't considering HTC for my next phone before today. I will now have to truly take a look at the 8x vs. 920.



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    Quote Originally Posted by theefman View Post
    So why not just do your preorder and let Nokia do what they want?
    I cannot prevent Nokia from doing what it wants.

    But your sensitivity about the whole thing sorta proves my point. Nokia and its community can slam Apple, Samsung and HTC all day long, but whenever they get criticized in return, it's all "why don't you just take your phone and leave us alone?!?"

    Nokia and its fanbase are the ones asserting a "special role" as the "premiere manufacturer" for WP. If they're going to assert that role, then they'd better be willing to listen to real feedback from the WP community.

    They can't have it both ways.
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    If I were to upgrade to a WP8 from my Titan II, it would probably be the 920.

    With that, I am not fond of the trash talk either. I think there is a better, more professional way to market yourself.

    It just makes me think of bullies on the playground, and of Labron James.
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    The trash talking really isn't good. Just talk about what your product can do and go from there. Plus I don't think the 920 is going to have a dedicated amp, that is huge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1jaxstate1 View Post
    It's normal to make fun at others when your life is ****ty, that way you don't have to look at your own problems.

    Is that why Apple regularly takes digs at other companies?
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    The only competitor I've seen Apple call out in advertising or in tweets is Microsoft, and that was only in PCs.

    I just didn't think the Nokia stunts today were classy. I was a little annoyed at the swipe at Samsung, but describing these new HTC phones as "tactical rebranding" was uncalled-for. They're lucky HTC didn't respond with "here are ACTUAL PHOTOS from the 8X -- note, no camera crew!" :P
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    I agree with the other sentiments, this speech by Nokia is just marketing and competitive ribbing. Like above, Apple did it with PC's for years, though perhaps a bit less aggressive in presentation.

    Nevertheless, it did help Apple's image of being trendy and cool while introducing the mac to a wider audience.

    I don't think it's that big of a deal to be up in arms over. Personally, I think Nokia has a tiny right to be proud and lay a bit of smack talk because they know they're pushing other hardware advancements aside from the typical shrinking of components (though I'll admit the amp is nice, but far from enough).
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    "PureMotion HD+" is a meaningless marketing term. HTC could have called their (lovely) screen the "HTC MegaAwesomeview" and then claimed to have "advanced the state of the art."

    OIS hasn't been demonstrated in a credible way. It's still vaporware. Something HTC and Samsung have been kind enough to NOT point out (though if Nokia continues its "ribbing," it wouldn't surprise me if one of them does).
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    Quote Originally Posted by brmiller1976 View Post
    "PureMotion HD+" is a meaningless marketing term. HTC could have called their (lovely) screen the "HTC MegaAwesomeview" and then claimed to have "advanced the state of the art."

    OIS hasn't been demonstrated in a credible way. It's still vaporware. Something HTC and Samsung have been kind enough to NOT point out (though if Nokia continues its "ribbing," it wouldn't surprise me if one of them does).
    So having an LCD that comprises of Clear Black polarizing film, less ghosting, and sensitivity to gloves is meaningless marketing? Granted the name is generic marketing but you can't belie the tech behind the screen.

    I guess you haven't been looking at the videos floating around; the real hands on demos. Also I'm pretty sure I asked you to look at them and explain to me how they're faked because you seem to know the answer.
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    Nokia is totally committed to Windows Phone. If they want to poke fun at the competition (after delivering something superior), I'm all for it. It's just a bit of fun, whilst reminding these Android OEM's that Windows Phone won't just take any old re-shelled device you throw at it.
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    Yes, Apple's PC software is in a ****ty position compared to Windows.
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    Is that why Apple regularly takes digs at other companies?
    I don't see the iPhone taking shots at anyone in any ads.

    Nokia wants people to forget they were on the brink of mobile destruction. So they do this cheeky crap to divert attention. The NOKIA LUMIA 800/7XX/900! was going to be their big comeback phone. Not. So now it's the 920 turn. How about you just shut up until you sell more phoens eh.
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