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  1. silentintrigue's Avatar
    As for YouTube only having one app. Navigate in your browser to F-Droid. F-Droid is FOSS (Free Open Source Software) and there are alot of apps that google will not allow in Play, like alternative YouTube apps. Just bing search F-Droid and you will get a link (It is f-droid.org). Download the f-droid app. Slide down your shade, hit the settings icon, and check allow unknown sources. Install the f-droid app. You can now download a number of AOSP apps that will allow Youtube alternatives. I am rather partial to NewPipe and MinTube but there are about 6 others. Search "YouTube" on F-droid app. Hope that helps
    02-26-2018 02:02 PM
  2. tgp's Avatar
    NOT TRUE AT ALL the "ONLY" reason they're more popular is because they have all the cell companies in their back pocket! either through kick backs or profit margins.... if the other phones were backed like Huawei or heck all the rest then they (Samsung) wouldn't be so favored by the people....
    It's all part of the overall package. I understand that you and many others here do not like Samsung, or Android in general, but your views do not reflect that of the general population. Samsung outsells everyone else by a wide margin, and their customers keep coming back. There is a reason.
    02-26-2018 02:38 PM
  3. Guytronic's Avatar
    Samsung outsells everyone else by a wide margin, and their customers keep coming back. There is a reason.
    Very true...
    The leagues of Samsung users are immense.
    Cruising the Android Central forums yields every 4th or 5th thread in line to be about Samsung phones. I see the Samsung wave here in my own neighborhood. Funny thing is so many who could care less refer to any phone including Samsung as the iPhone.
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    02-26-2018 03:46 PM
  4. beman39's Avatar
    It's all part of the overall package. I understand that you and many others here do not like Samsung, or Android in general, but your views do not reflect that of the general population. Samsung outsells everyone else by a wide margin, and their customers keep coming back. There is a reason.
    never said I didn't like Samsung, yes I don't like ADroid but has nothing to with Samsung, and again its not cuzz they make the "best" phones they're so popular, cuzz there is better phones out there, ONLY reason is cuzz they're the most backed and "pushed" by cell phone companies for what ever reasons... maybe they offer better % kick backs?
    02-26-2018 10:48 PM
  5. TgeekB's Avatar
    It's all part of the overall package. I understand that you and many others here do not like Samsung, or Android in general, but your views do not reflect that of the general population. Samsung outsells everyone else by a wide margin, and their customers keep coming back. There is a reason.
    Completely agree. Everything else is an excuse.
    Just like Apple, they give the majority of users what they want. Word of mouth is very powerful.
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    02-27-2018 04:29 PM
  6. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Samsung - great hardware, the most bloatware in the industry, good security, great updates.

    Blackberry - good hardware, no bloatware, great security, great updates

    Motorola - good hardware, no bloatware, no security, poor updates, low price

    Sony - Great Hardware, No bloatware, No Security, Great Updates, Xperia X models can be flashed to sailfish.

    LG - Great hardware, some bloatware, no security, poor updates
    Somewhat agree...

    Samsung - great security and updates is relatively new for them and mostly on flagships. It started after the US Congressional shaming about security on Android. Many love their screens and cameras. I think they rely a bit too much on heavy color saturation in both those areas.

    Blackberry - I've found their updates to be good, except that they have an error where you have to uninstall all Play Updates to get a system patch to install. If you don't know the workaround you'll pull your hair out. Very Privacy Forward. A true rarity on Android and worth it just for that, IMHO. Love the Hub. Bestest Personal Information Management since webOS. Might even be better as our PIM has grown exponentially since the webOS days.

    Moto - Haven't touched it since it was sold to Lenovo. Their (Lenovo's) privacy record is abominable.

    Sony - Not sure what you mean by "no security" as they get the OS patches and hot fixes out fast. There are good 3rd party security measures that should be put on any Android really so there should be no problem since patches come in regular. Great Build Quality from my small sampling. "Xperia X models can be flashed to sailfish." Limited markets only and that statement is probably moonman gibberish to most users.

    LG - never touched a flagship LG. At the bargain level they seem a good value and a great alternate to the ubiquitous Samsung. And at that level updates and patches are still rare. As I said above, there are 3rd party security measures everyone should be availing themselves of anyway and those don't discriminate by OEM brand.
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    02-28-2018 08:15 AM
  7. neo158's Avatar
    Originally posted by 3165dwayne
    Dude, why do all of you keep going to the worst of the worst just because they advertise more? Samsung is awful. Try HTC, Motorola, or even Huawei. Leave Samsung alone, they'll never get any better.
    I have to agree, I had an S6 as a work phone and while the hardware was alright the software just plain sucked. I was glad when I had to hand it back to them and just used my Nexus 5X and now my Nokia 8 for work purposes, both are infinitely better devices from both a hardware and software perspective.
    03-05-2018 06:50 AM
  8. neo158's Avatar
    Originally posted by RumoredNow
    Originally Posted by Old_Mil
    Samsung - great hardware, the most bloatware in the industry, good security, great updates.

    Blackberry - good hardware, no bloatware, great security, great updates

    Motorola - good hardware, no bloatware, no security, poor updates, low price

    Sony - Great Hardware, No bloatware, No Security, Great Updates, Xperia X models can be flashed to sailfish.

    LG - Great hardware, some bloatware, no security, poor updates
    Somewhat agree...

    Samsung - great security and updates is relatively new for them and mostly on flagships. It started after the US Congressional shaming about security on Android. Many love their screens and cameras. I think they rely a bit too much on heavy color saturation in both those areas.

    Blackberry - I've found their updates to be good, except that they have an error where you have to uninstall all Play Updates to get a system patch to install. If you don't know the workaround you'll pull your hair out. Very Privacy Forward. A true rarity on Android and worth it just for that, IMHO. Love the Hub. Bestest Personal Information Management since webOS. Might even be better as our PIM has grown exponentially since the webOS days.

    Moto - Haven't touched it since it was sold to Lenovo. Their (Lenovo's) privacy record is abominable.

    Sony - Not sure what you mean by "no security" as they get the OS patches and hot fixes out fast. There are good 3rd party security measures that should be put on any Android really so there should be no problem since patches come in regular. Great Build Quality from my small sampling. "Xperia X models can be flashed to sailfish." Limited markets only and that statement is probably moonman gibberish to most users.

    LG - never touched a flagship LG. At the bargain level they seem a good value and a great alternate to the ubiquitous Samsung. And at that level updates and patches are still rare. As I said above, there are 3rd party security measures everyone should be availing themselves of anyway and those don't discriminate by OEM brand.
    On the subject of Sony, don't they contribute any changes to the base version of Android back into AOSP?
    03-05-2018 07:00 AM
  9. xandros9's Avatar
    Android is the world's most popular phone OS because it was second and Apple made a conscious decision to try and keep the margins on their phones extremely high rather than be a market share leader. Also, different Android OEMs offer very different experiences.

    Samsung - great hardware, the most bloatware in the industry, good security, great updates.

    Blackberry - good hardware, no bloatware, great security, great updates

    Motorola - good hardware, no bloatware, no security, poor updates, low price

    Sony - Great Hardware, No bloatware, No Security, Great Updates, Xperia X models can be flashed to sailfish.

    LG - Great hardware, some bloatware, no security, poor updates

    Choose the mix that is right for you.
    Just some edits here...

    BlackBerry’s updates aren’t great as it looks like they stop after two years. Also you only get maybe one major update as compared to a couple. Google is superior here - one should only really get one for the keyboard.

    I think you’re simplifying it too much as far as “no security”
    I got to dabble with an Xperia X and it got monthly security patches. And so on, I’ll try to resume later.
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    03-05-2018 10:27 AM
  10. Old_Mil's Avatar
    Just some edits here...


    I think you’re simplifying it too much as far as “no security”
    I got to dabble with an Xperia X and it got monthly security patches. And so on, I’ll try to resume later.
    Perhaphs privacy would have beena better term.than.security since the.latter ia associated with the frequency of patches.

    Google is the gold standard as far.as releasing updates - they should be, it is their OS after all. However, there is no privacy there at all.

    An Xperia X is my daily driver as well, but I am running sailfish.
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    03-05-2018 02:09 PM
  11. gmfeld's Avatar
    Yes; but no headphone jack and no mini SD storage card. I’m in the midst of reluctantly switching to Android from my 950 and thought I was going to a Pixel 2 until I discovered those Two issues. Instead, I have a V30 being shipped to me. Reading topics like this one bums me out.
    03-18-2018 07:48 AM
  12. Keith White Jr's Avatar
    I feel everyone's pain! I miss my Lumia more every day. I currently have a Galaxy Note 4, which has been giving me problems since day one, and, I have a Nokia 6 which is scheduled for delivery tomorrow by 8pm from Amazon.

    I just wish W10M had the apps I use. Android, as an OS, is a total mess, and, is a huge downgrade from W10M!
    03-24-2018 08:34 AM
  13. jeffchapik's Avatar
    I agree. I only lasted about 6 weeks on Android before I went back to W10M. I even bought a new 650 to replace my 640 - still loving it. The only app I lack right now that I wish I had was Vudu for converting my DVDs to digital downloads. I have to borrow my wife's iPhone for that, but I have everything else I need.

    A better Facebook app would be nice too.
    03-24-2018 09:19 AM
  14. TgeekB's Avatar

    A better Facebook app would be nice too.
    Or no Facebook at all if you care about your privacy.
    03-24-2018 09:58 AM
  15. nate0's Avatar
    Or no Facebook at all if you care about your privacy.
    While using Android...that is enough invasion on it's own. Why throw salt on it by using FB or the like?
    Just stirring the pot...
    Last edited by nate0; 03-24-2018 at 10:40 PM.
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    03-24-2018 10:05 PM
  16. neo158's Avatar
    Or no Facebook at all if you care about your privacy.
    The funniest thing is that you think anyone has privacy these days, no one does and the only people who genuinely care about it are those who have something to hide anyway.
    03-26-2018 05:20 AM
  17. mtf1380's Avatar
    the only people who genuinely care about it are those who have something to hide anyway.
    neo158, I will have to respectfully disagree with this assessment... even if those that are gathering the information have the best of intentions, there are those who will use that same information to try a scam the unexpected (mostly the elderly, but as scams get more sophisticated, everyone).
    Last edited by mtf1380; 03-26-2018 at 07:12 AM.
    03-26-2018 06:40 AM
  18. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The funniest thing is that you think anyone has privacy these days, no one does and the only people who genuinely care about it are those who have something to hide anyway.
    I'm afraid it's not so cut and dried. Think about how many people, with nothing to hide, have lost their jobs because their views don't align with ownership's.
    03-26-2018 07:30 AM
  19. RumoredNow's Avatar
    The funniest thing is that you think anyone has privacy these days, no one does and the only people who genuinely care about it are those who have something to hide anyway.
    I've nothing to hide, but like maximizing my privacy. The huge amounts of money being made off data mining means encroachment is getting more and more aggressive and frequent.

    It feels like vultures are circling overhead, whilst packs of jackals pace nearby waiting for the scraps left by the lions and tigers and bears...

    Lions and tigers and bears, oh my! Lions and tigers and bears, oh my! Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!

    It's out of control. Why for the sake of all that is holy should companies salivate over the chance to know what you grandmother's email address is or how many texts she sent you last year? But they want this and more.


    Best case scenario: they use it for advertising and micro-targeted advertising. Well guess what? I DON'T WANT TO BE AN ADVERTISING SPONGE. And yes, I am screaming about it. They rub my last nerve raw every day with this stuff. Enough has become too much quite rapidly and people are just accepting of it. Grates my cheese. I am absolutely peeved about the amount of adverts shoved at the populace every second of every day.

    And when I research for a purchase, I want to make up my own mind on the merits not buy whatever product paid the most to get front and center.

    Companies act as if they have a God Given Right to shove advertising in your face. I consider that a breach of my privacy and everything that encourages that is egregious to me.

    Have a quick look:
    https://www.statista.com/topics/979/...ing-in-the-us/
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...nue-of-google/
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatsp.../#4b32ccd16fe7


    But wait, there's more...

    Capitulate today and megacorp will use your metrics as part of their social engineering. That's right! The huge rivers of liquidity we've created from selling chances for the ad snipers to take pot shots at you will go to push our agenda and help us bully you into thinking the way we believe you should. We'll build out huge platforms and rig the systems so "right think" will rise to the top and "wrong think" will get squashed and punished. We are not governments, but we still believe we have the right and duty to control the populace and herd them toward a future we envision. Whether that future is good or ill. The marketplace of ideas needs to be under our control for your own good. What's "right think" and "wrong think" anyway? It is what we and those who think like us decide it is at any given moment, of course. And how dare you want to believe otherwise than we?


    So, yeah, I do have have something to hide after all. My chance at sanity in a world gone mad where people seem to want advertisement overload and to allow some technocrats to decide the course of society based on how much money they throw at an issue and how wide of an audience they can capture.
    03-26-2018 07:42 AM
  20. fatclue_98's Avatar
    So, yeah, I do have have something to hide after all.
    We all do. Some have skeletons in their closets, others have graveyards. But my crypts are NOT for sale to the highest bidder.
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    03-26-2018 08:01 AM
  21. nate0's Avatar
    Now personal data is one thing. We all have personal data all over the internet. If you have an email account and use that to sign into a phone/mobile device...well you just gave consent for that proprietarily governed device to access your personal info. What burns me is how legally companies seem to have wormed their way into distributing not just your personal data but sensitive data. In IT we define data like this no matter how you look at it as NPI - non public information or PII. One cannot and will not allow data like this to become public. It is part of security policies in place. Some how, these companies (and we won't name specifically because in a way they all do) legally through opt-ins, consent pop ups, etc...have found ways to smoothly inject their own policy so that they could get access to and use PII. They should be ashamed in my opinion. Google for instance, at one point was the only company that defined their consent to using your data to include the phrase sensitive data. I am not sure how the terms are written nowadays, but that is just flat out scary. Yes we all agree to share most of our personal data just by singing into the dang device...but sensitive data too? Cmon! I get a flat out 5-10 spam callers a day because of this bull. Feel like moving my family to the Bermuda triangle for a decade until the dust clears..lol
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    03-26-2018 08:39 AM
  22. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Feel like moving my family to the Bermuda triangle for a decade until the dust clears..lol
    Or just stay on Windows Mobile, nobody will notice if you're here or not. Sorry, I couldn't resist. I love low-hanging fruit.
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    03-26-2018 09:22 AM
  23. jeffchapik's Avatar
    I'm going to give Android another try. I needed an app that wasn't available on W10M, so I dug out my old Galaxy J3. I started playing around with it, and installed Launcher 10 again to see if it had changed. Here's the result:



    My Lumia 650 start screen





    Launcher 10





    Launcher 10 seems to have more "live tiles" now than I remember. If I could just find a radar app with a widget that fits a 2x2 tile, I'd be golden.



    The thing that gave me fits last time I tried this was getting all my contact photos synched up. I used something called sync.me, but you had to force a sync, manually link duplicates, and then disable synching or it would screw it all up again. This time, once I installed Outlook, my contacts all showed up automatically with their pics intact.



    Previously I also couldn't find a music player that could access my music library on OneDrive and I didn't want to have to export it all over to something else. But Groove is now available on Android and just as soon as I signed into OneDrive, it started synching my library.



    Cortana seems to be a little more functional now too, and she's supposedly able to read incoming SMS over Bluetooth now, with the ability to send texts coming in a few weeks.



    It's almost as fluid as my 650, and this is only a $70 android go-phone. So I bought a Moto G5 Plus on Amazon that should be here Monday and we'll see how that runs. Plus it has a better camera than either my 650 or the Samsung, which completely sucks.
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    04-13-2018 03:04 PM
  24. sporosarcina's Avatar
    Finally had to make the leap. My 950 had a fatal encounter with a tile floor and I couldn't justify the cost to replace. I picked up an Xperia XA2 on sale, and it is decent, but man I miss my 950. One thing I like is the cheaper SD630 devices that never materialized in Windows.
    04-16-2018 07:35 PM
  25. sporosarcina's Avatar
    I will give it that my Garmin is much more stable, and the integration with W10 desktop is very good, but damn I miss tiles and my phone reading messages in the car (I am in the Beta for Cortana on Android, not the Alpha that supposedly does this).
    04-17-2018 03:25 PM
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