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  1. GunplaGamer's Avatar
    Well I currently use a Nvidia Shield tablet and all I use it for is to read comics and watch some shows on rare occasion.

    If I had to choose one I am not sure if I would get anything else but an iPad Pro based on the sole idea on what exactly I use my current tablet for. Comixology on iOS is the best comic book reader I have used.

    The Android version of the app while almost the same, it has some weird glitches. Windows 10 comic book readers are IMO just plain bad. If Comixology had a Windows 10 comic book reader app, and it was good (unlike previous options), I would definitely choose the Surface Pro 4. It would also allow me to play steam library of indie games.

    But since there is no app at all to natively store my collection (besides the web view), I need to go with the iPad Pro.
    Last edited by GunplaGamer; 10-05-2015 at 12:39 PM.
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    10-05-2015 12:11 PM
  2. Aquila's Avatar
    Steam should be HEAVILY marketed by MS IMO. Get a partnership, show it in action during your demos.
    920Walker likes this.
    10-05-2015 12:14 PM
  3. 920Walker's Avatar
    Steam should be HEAVILY marketed by MS IMO. Get a partnership, show it in action during your demos.
    Not just Steam, but X86 games and all other game stores. 95% of games in all app stores are inferior.
    10-05-2015 12:19 PM
  4. realwarder's Avatar
    Doctors and nurses don't go watching videos while seeing patients. The context of my post was only related to input via stylus while on the go, nothing else.
    I know. And if you look at the Surface stylus handwriting recognition, it beats anything else.
    10-05-2015 12:22 PM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I know. And if you look at the Surface stylus handwriting recognition, it beats anything else.
    Wacom beats N-Trig any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

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    10-05-2015 12:33 PM
  6. realwarder's Avatar
    Wacom beats N-Trig any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
    Which has absolutely nothing to do with handwriting recognition.
    10-05-2015 12:48 PM
  7. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Which has absolutely nothing to do with handwriting recognition.
    Who said anything about handwriting recognition? My post was about palm rejection and that is squarely on the digitizer drivers.
    10-05-2015 12:52 PM
  8. realwarder's Avatar
    Who said anything about handwriting recognition? My post was about palm rejection and that is squarely on the digitizer drivers.
    I did. My post was saying hand writing recognition was better on Windows than iOS. Which is important for a stylus based input system.
    10-05-2015 12:59 PM
  9. Aquila's Avatar
    I did. My post was saying hand writing recognition was better on Windows than iOS. Which is important for a stylus based input system.
    Is it better than the new Pencil and iOS 9 or is it better than the old iPads? (I've read literally 0 on comparisons of that feature on anything)
    10-05-2015 01:00 PM
  10. Rann Xeroxx's Avatar
    Why would you consider the iPad Pro and not the Pixel-C? Because of a stylus? That's absurd, Android has supported the use of a mouse now for years and a mouse is FAR more useful of UI then a stylus. Just being able to RDP into remote systems or run remote streaming apps with a mouse makes Android more useful.

    Personally would take a Surface over both but I like Android for phones.
    10-05-2015 01:23 PM
  11. Jefe32's Avatar
    Yep
    10-05-2015 02:19 PM
  12. SanketSKasar's Avatar
    For one, iPad Pro is powerful enough to allow 3 4K streams to be edited at once. This surely makes it more powerful than Surface Pro 3. Also the screen resolution and aspect ratio is better on iPad than on SP3. iPad Pro's early reviews pointed out a good palm rejection and stylus use experience.
    If MS makes SP4 to at least match these specs, then it may offer some advantage to buy an iPad Pro.
    We can't say unavailability of software as an issue, as the iOS developer ecosystem has been quick to bring apps that utilise new features on iDevices.
    Only advantage of SP4 would be the full-fledged OS on it. But to many people, overall experience matters more than raw power.
    Also for most other works like using MS-Office and browsing, Surface 3 (and also 4) are pretty adequate.
    I go for the cheaper Surface.
    10-05-2015 02:22 PM
  13. ectobs's Avatar
    Ready for Surface Pro 4 for serious work.
    10-05-2015 04:14 PM
  14. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    For one, iPad Pro is powerful enough to allow 3 4K streams to be edited at once. This surely makes it more powerful than Surface Pro 3.
    Perhaps more powerful for that particular scenario. Which is contrived at best. What percentage of the users of a pro tablet will be performing that particular scenario?


    Also the screen resolution and aspect ratio is better on iPad than on SP3. iPad Pro's early reviews pointed out a good palm rejection and stylus use experience.
    Palm rejection with the Apple Pencil depends upon the app developer coding for it. It is not system wide at the OS level. That is why the demos when the Apple debuted had presenters awkwardly holding the pencil with their hand suspended above the screen.
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    10-05-2015 04:47 PM
  15. MeiSquawk's Avatar
    Surface Pr0 3 by far.
    10-05-2015 04:53 PM
  16. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    For one, iPad Pro is powerful enough to allow 3 4K streams to be edited at once. This surely makes it more powerful than Surface Pro 3. Also the screen resolution and aspect ratio is better on iPad than on SP3. iPad Pro's early reviews pointed out a good palm rejection and stylus use experience.
    If MS makes SP4 to at least match these specs, then it may offer some advantage to buy an iPad Pro.
    We can't say unavailability of software as an issue, as the iOS developer ecosystem has been quick to bring apps that utilise new features on iDevices.
    Only advantage of SP4 would be the full-fledged OS on it. But to many people, overall experience matters more than raw power.
    Also for most other works like using MS-Office and browsing, Surface 3 (and also 4) are pretty adequate.
    I go for the cheaper Surface.
    I'll have to try and edit 4 4k streams simultaneously on my i3 Dell tablet. Since I reckon an i3 will be able to handle it. If it doesn't then yes the iPad Pro would be better in that scenario.

    Perhaps more powerful for that particular scenario. Which is contrived at best. What percentage of the users of a pro tablet will be performing that particular scenario?
    Don't count that out. I'm sure that film studios etc would love that. I speak as a Microsoft fan who has worked for a film production company.

    Palm rejection with the Apple Pencil depends upon the app developer coding for it. It is not system wide at the OS level. That is why the demos when the Apple debuted had presenters awkwardly holding the pencil with their hand suspended above the screen.
    It's iOS, of course it'll be coded for it. If Apple advertise palm rejection at all developers will flock to make sure their app supports it.
    10-06-2015 03:51 AM
  17. jhguy's Avatar
    Its not a choice anymore ... Surface Pro 4 or Surface Book is the choice. And as for me, I'm preordering the Surface Book :)
    10-06-2015 11:31 AM
  18. Leonel Funes's Avatar
    The Surface Pro 4 has arrived! So now I can ask:

    Surface Pro 4, iPad Pro or Pixel C? Don't include the Surface Book, different category...
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    10-06-2015 11:34 AM
  19. Aquila's Avatar
    The Surface Pro 4 has arrived! So now I can ask:

    Surface Pro 4, iPad Pro or Pixel C? Don't include the Surface Book, different category...
    With full range of capabilities and no emphasis as a tablet, Surface Pro 4. By a lot.

    Nexus 6 Assassin Edition. Android Central Moderator, Gonfaloniere
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    10-06-2015 11:48 AM
  20. dbam987's Avatar
    Surface Pro 4. Easy.
    10-06-2015 11:53 AM
  21. Jaredallister's Avatar
    Perhaps more powerful for that particular scenario. Which is contrived at best. What percentage of the users of a pro tablet will be performing that particular scenario?


    Palm rejection with the Apple Pencil depends upon the app developer coding for it. It is not system wide at the OS level. That is why the demos when the Apple debuted had presenters awkwardly holding the pencil with their hand suspended above the screen.
    Palm rejection has been built into the OS level with iOS since iOS 6 and the first iPad Mini. Apple introduced palm rejection in the iPad Mini because of its small bezels and when holding it your hands would always touch part of your hands.
    10-06-2015 12:43 PM
  22. leroyds's Avatar
    lol
    10-06-2015 12:55 PM
  23. WillysJeepMan's Avatar
    Palm rejection has been built into the OS level with iOS since iOS 6 and the first iPad Mini. Apple introduced palm rejection in the iPad Mini because of its small bezels and when holding it your hands would always touch part of your hands.
    Sorry, but that is not correct. Either that or you are talking about something else.
    10-06-2015 04:19 PM
  24. 920Walker's Avatar
    iDevices are about to get a new type of Rejection after today's Surface 4 Pro and Surface Book news.
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    10-06-2015 06:28 PM
  25. C38S's Avatar
    The link to iMore was interesting, lots of love for the surface 3 there. Now that the surface 4 is out... The surface 4 is actually making me look at the 3 since the price will drop and it's such a good device on it's own.
    10-06-2015 08:07 PM
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