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  1. fasciN8ing's Avatar
    Background: PC's my whole life, currently Dell XPS One 27; Surface RT then Surface Pro 3 512; ready for this...Zune HD (and it was sweet, they should have made a phone like that!); Windows phone's since as soon as available on AT&T (Samsung Focus, Lumia 900, Lumia 920); my wife had had a Lumia 610(I think that's what it was) and Lumia 925. So clearly there is no lack of love for Microsoft products in our family. However, I find I'm at a crossroads. I've disliked Apple for as long as I can remember purely based on ridiculous prices and proprietary nature but I'm now considering switching to an iPhone for the following reasons:
    - iPhone has all of the Microsoft services now and some that my WP doesn't even have yet
    - I'm a photographer as a side business and Nikon doesn't make an app for WP not to mention every important photography app is not available or barely usable (smugmugs app is rough at best and has frequent problems, 500px just got pulled)
    - I have no current upgrade options and my 920 is dying on me (AT&T website has said the 640XL is coming soon for nearly 3 months...... That is not "soon")
    - I love the WP UI but the less functional and missing apps make the lack of a new phone option even more frustrating

    I know MS just released their Ios and Android converters but I'm not convinced developers care yet.

    I need some convincing as to why I should not go buy the product that I've loved to hate since forever (iPhone) but is just so damn convenient because it has everything except a sweet main screen ala WP. Thoughts? Looking for honest feedback even if you think I should switch. How long is too long to ignore the glaring issues WP faces?

    Thanks in advance for your feedback and please don't think I'm attempting to troll as I would like nothing more than to keep with WP.
    ven07 likes this.
    05-10-2015 10:51 AM
  2. thatdennis's Avatar
    Background: PC's my whole life, currently Dell XPS One 27; Surface RT then Surface Pro 3 512; ready for this...Zune HD (and it was sweet, they should have made a phone like that!); Windows phone's since as soon as available on AT&T (Samsung Focus, Lumia 900, Lumia 920); my wife had had a Lumia 610(I think that's what it was) and Lumia 925. So clearly there is no lack of love for Microsoft products in our family. However, I find I'm at a crossroads. I've disliked Apple for as long as I can remember purely based on ridiculous prices and proprietary nature but I'm now considering switching to an iPhone for the following reasons:
    - iPhone has all of the Microsoft services now and some that my WP doesn't even have yet
    - I'm a photographer as a side business and Nikon doesn't make an app for WP not to mention every important photography app is not available or barely usable (smugmugs app is rough at best and has frequent problems, 500px just got pulled)
    - I have no current upgrade options and my 920 is dying on me (AT&T website has said the 640XL is coming soon for nearly 3 months...... That is not "soon")
    - I love the WP UI but the less functional and missing apps make the lack of a new phone option even more frustrating

    I know MS just released their Ios and Android converters but I'm not convinced developers care yet.

    I need some convincing as to why I should not go buy the product that I've loved to hate since forever (iPhone) but is just so damn convenient because it has everything except a sweet main screen ala WP. Thoughts? Looking for honest feedback even if you think I should switch. How long is too long to ignore the glaring issues WP faces?

    Thanks in advance for your feedback and please don't think I'm attempting to troll as I would like nothing more than to keep with WP.
    No, no need to convince. Buy the iPhone, no joke. The only time WP will be back again is in a year or two, or a few years more perhaps. With the introduced change to WP, devs need to adjust first. That adjusting time takes a long time, so just buy the iPhone. You'll be hassle free and it would all be simpler.

    However, after buying the iPhone and you still want to go back to WP, that's easy actually. First things first is not to invest too much on the apps/service, and then if you want to get rid of it sell it.

    Done, simple, easy.
    steve_w_7, ven07 and SumairB like this.
    05-10-2015 11:05 AM
  3. hotphil's Avatar
    LG G4 for an Android option with decent camera.
    Don't wait for MS.
    Slovenix, ven07 and SumairB like this.
    05-10-2015 11:48 AM
  4. Slovenix's Avatar
    Background: PC's my whole life, currently Dell XPS One 27; Surface RT then Surface Pro 3 512; ready for this...Zune HD (and it was sweet, they should have made a phone like that!); Windows phone's since as soon as available on AT&T (Samsung Focus, Lumia 900, Lumia 920); my wife had had a Lumia 610(I think that's what it was) and Lumia 925. So clearly there is no lack of love for Microsoft products in our family. However, I find I'm at a crossroads. I've disliked Apple for as long as I can remember purely based on ridiculous prices and proprietary nature but I'm now considering switching to an iPhone for the following reasons:
    - iPhone has all of the Microsoft services now and some that my WP doesn't even have yet
    - I'm a photographer as a side business and Nikon doesn't make an app for WP not to mention every important photography app is not available or barely usable (smugmugs app is rough at best and has frequent problems, 500px just got pulled)
    - I have no current upgrade options and my 920 is dying on me (AT&T website has said the 640XL is coming soon for nearly 3 months...... That is not "soon")
    - I love the WP UI but the less functional and missing apps make the lack of a new phone option even more frustrating

    I know MS just released their Ios and Android converters but I'm not convinced developers care yet.

    I need some convincing as to why I should not go buy the product that I've loved to hate since forever (iPhone) but is just so damn convenient because it has everything except a sweet main screen ala WP. Thoughts? Looking for honest feedback even if you think I should switch. How long is too long to ignore the glaring issues WP faces?

    Thanks in advance for your feedback and please don't think I'm attempting to troll as I would like nothing more than to keep with WP.
    Please consider using Android.. If you want a high end.. You will feel the freedom you have never experienced before.. And there is no such thing as lag in high end and you can always customize your phone the way you like. You can enjoy both best of Microsoft and Google.

    Like Phil said, LG G4 or S6 ..
    aximtreo, ven07 and SumairB like this.
    05-10-2015 12:02 PM
  5. Slovenix's Avatar
    Please consider using Android.. If you want a high end.. You will feel the freedom you have never experienced before.. And there is no such thing as lag in high end and you can always customize your phone the way you like. You can enjoy both best of Microsoft and Google.

    Like Phil said, LG G4 or S6 ..
    Yes this is coming from hardcore MS follower, but being in denial is pointless. It's just phones after all. You can still be loyal to MS services.
    05-10-2015 12:05 PM
  6. Westarmy's Avatar
    Recommend the galaxy s6, especially since Microsoft have partnered with Samsung
    Slovenix, ven07 and SumairB like this.
    05-10-2015 01:54 PM
  7. hotphil's Avatar
    Recommend the galaxy s6, especially since Microsoft have partnered with Samsung
    Which partnership?
    05-10-2015 06:29 PM
  8. Slovenix's Avatar
    Which partnership?
    I think it's about Microsoft apps that are preinstalled on their phones.
    snowmutt, ven07 and SumairB like this.
    05-10-2015 07:46 PM
  9. raycpl's Avatar
    .... it was that .... or else they had to pay up the huge licensing $$$
    05-10-2015 08:01 PM
  10. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    Re: fasciN8ing,
    Why do you say your phone is dying? Do you just want something new and shiny.

    Have you seen the videos of Windows 10 proposed on phone? Octa core processors (8).

    Don't listen to the doom and gloom promoted by the apple and goggle fans.

    Best wishes.
    Last edited by Kevin Rush; 05-10-2015 at 10:03 PM.
    Tom Snyder likes this.
    05-10-2015 08:03 PM
  11. Slovenix's Avatar
    Also for photography, IR blaster on phones is quite helpful for Time-lapse :)
    05-10-2015 08:42 PM
  12. fasciN8ing's Avatar
    Thanks for the feedback all. When I say my 920 is dying it is because it has stopped holding a charge long enough for me to recharge mid day. It has also formed 3 vertical lines on the left side of the screen that never go away no matter what I try. Now it can't complete a backup (keeps failing at 98%). Enough to put any phone user into the unhappy camp. I've seen W10 but honestly that doesn't solve my gripes from the first post (not to mention there are no phones available for me to buy on AT&T except the 830 which is comically overpriced). I just hope they can get developer support in the future so I can return to WP. It's likely I'll end up w/ an iPhone or S6. We shall see. Thanks again
    Slovenix, snowmutt and ven07 like this.
    05-10-2015 11:19 PM
  13. raycpl's Avatar
    Backup problems?. Try deleting the old back up first. Then try again. Works for me
    ven07 and alanjg86 like this.
    05-11-2015 12:32 AM
  14. Link Kadeshi's Avatar
    Deleting the old backup might work, but do also try setting your lockscreen to Bing, first. If you have any apps that mess with the lockscreen, then disable or uninstall them beforehand. Some will cause backup issues, sometimes. Even the official ones.
    Laura Knotek, Kevin Rush and ven07 like this.
    05-11-2015 02:22 AM
  15. Slovenix's Avatar
    Thanks for the feedback all. When I say my 920 is dying it is because it has stopped holding a charge long enough for me to recharge mid day. It has also formed 3 vertical lines on the left side of the screen that never go away no matter what I try. Now it can't complete a backup (keeps failing at 98%). Enough to put any phone user into the unhappy camp. I've seen W10 but honestly that doesn't solve my gripes from the first post (not to mention there are no phones available for me to buy on AT&T except the 830 which is comically overpriced). I just hope they can get developer support in the future so I can return to WP. It's likely I'll end up w/ an iPhone or S6. We shall see. Thanks again
    I beg you to take S6 :) I don't want you to suffer ;) with that I mean you'll feel free without limitations :)
    Last edited by Slovenix; 05-11-2015 at 07:15 AM.
    05-11-2015 03:28 AM
  16. Lu520's Avatar
    Loyal is different and practical usage in our regular life is different. When the matter is of comparision definetly the other two are bigger and best as of now.
    There are many limitations(in the name security) in WP for developing apps(seems and may be the main reason for lack of apps).
    Except the UI design and smooth OS performance even on low level devices there is nothing in WP to say atleast as of now. Go for alternatives if you are thinking really and absolutlty no need to ask others like convinece me to stay with WP.
    05-11-2015 06:56 AM
  17. Kevin Hill2's Avatar
    Buy what works for you, I love my Windows phone, but I'm not married to it. I have had some great Android phones, But you really need to think long and hard about getting in bed with Apple. And if you really like the Windows OS you are going to hate A Samsung device, not for the phone itself but for all the crap they add to the Android OS, Get yourself a Nexus or some other phone that runs a pure version of Android and you will be a lot happier. Don't get me wrong I think Apple makes great products, but when you buy one they snap a short chain around your ankle. Good luck in your search.
    Kevin Rush likes this.
    05-11-2015 10:03 AM
  18. gleneston's Avatar
    I picked up a Lumia 1520 (my first windows phone) off ebay for $230 and am quite happy with it. Though, I am going to be switching to tmobile soon, so I'm not sure if ill be able to stay with Windows Phone since tmobile has all but 3 outdated options.

    I've been considering the LG G4 for the SD card, removable battery and apparently the camera is quite good-- rivals the iPhone 6 plus AND the Lumia 930 sensors. Google has something similar to bing rewards that gives you credit in their app store, so no additional investment required.

    I have had some experience with iOS in the form of my wifes iPad Air and I can tell you that I've had nothing but a negative experience from it. Crashes, restarts, strange UI that seems counter intuitive to me. I've also noticed each OS update takes MORE and MORE memory from its precious 16gb storage leaving enough for just a handful of apps. If you go with an iPhone be sure you get the 64gb as you WILL need it.

    Good luck to you!
    Kevin Rush likes this.
    05-11-2015 10:50 AM
  19. fdalbor's Avatar
    The lack of speed in getting out the better WP phones has got to be making a lot of current users moving to another OS. I have been wanting to upgrade my 820 for the past several months but the only thing I was interested in was the 830 (way overpriced) and it is not really much of any upgrade if one at all. I have been taking a look at the 640/640XL; but try to find them in the USA. I finally bought a Moto G lte to tide me over until something happens. But to be honest my 820 (more than 2 years old) is better than the G lte. Performance wise they are close; but the G does not let you uninstall any of the Google items so they sit there taking up room (I don't use them and have disabled them). Also Android is much more limited in what apps can be installed on the CD card. Unlike WP8.1 which allows almost everything to be installed on the SD card. In the very near future I will upgrade my 820. But I am like alot of WP users, very tired of seeing COMMING SOON. The 840 looking interesting; but I will probably die of old age before it is put on the market (I'm 69). Luckly my 820 still works great and that is why it is still my main phone. But sooner or later a lot of us are going to get tired of waiting. Is anyone at Microsoft hearing us.
    05-11-2015 11:22 AM
  20. tgp's Avatar
    I have had some experience with iOS in the form of my wifes iPad Air and I can tell you that I've had nothing but a negative experience from it. Crashes, restarts, strange UI that seems counter intuitive to me.
    I've had iPhones in the past, and I currently have an iPad Mini 2. I've not had any issues with it at all, but I am not impressed with its performance, either the iPad or the iPhones I've had.

    I also have a Nexus 7 (2013) which was released at about the same time as my iPad. It owns the iPad in performance, hands down! The iPad is not slow, but not fast. It's very stable and the apps are mostly very high quality. But for overall experience, I'll take the Nexus 7.
    05-11-2015 11:48 AM
  21. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I picked up a Lumia 1520 (my first windows phone) off ebay for $230 and am quite happy with it. Though, I am going to be switching to tmobile soon, so I'm not sure if ill be able to stay with Windows Phone since tmobile has all but 3 outdated options...
    You know T-Mo will let you bring that phone over?

    Which variant is it? RM-983 is good to go. RM-940 can be configured to get 3G/H+ on T-Mo's AWS 1700 MHz with minimal effort and zero risk - just get your unlock from ATT.
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    05-11-2015 11:59 AM
  22. Witness's Avatar
    You can go with either Android or iOS. I'm on an iP6 for now since I broke my L920 and am waiting for the WP10 flagship phones. Only thing you should be doing is keeping yourself on platform agnostic apps/cloud services.

    I use OneDrive, Office, Skype and a host of other apps/services that are available in all three platforms. This makes it so I can change without too much pain or go back easily.

    ​Good luck.
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    05-11-2015 12:37 PM
  23. JerseySal's Avatar
    Get a Jitterbug
    Tom Snyder and snowmutt like this.
    05-11-2015 12:50 PM
  24. steve_w_7's Avatar
    Get the iPhone. All of the Microsoft apps and services work flawlessly. After a month or so, you will stop aching for that flagship Windows phone that may or may not ever materialize. It's actually very liberating.
    05-11-2015 12:56 PM
  25. Tom Snyder's Avatar
    Get the iPhone. All of the Microsoft apps and services work flawlessly. After a month or so, you will stop aching for that flagship Windows phone that may or may not ever materialize. It's actually very liberating.
    Plus if you get a iPhone be sure to get a battery back and and portable charger, iPhones have small batteries and drain the battery fast. My wife's old iPhone 4 had great battery life and still does, she got a iPhone 5s last summer and I had to buy her a Mophie battery back with the built in additional 32gb storage, plus she still needed a portable battery charger for travel, the iPhone 5s would drain the phones battery and Mophien battery back in around 12 hours normal usage. without the Mophie battery back the phones battery only lasted 5 or 6 hours on a good day.

    Get use to the power cord being hooked to the iPhone like a ill patient hooked to a IV.
    Kevin Rush and RumoredNow like this.
    05-11-2015 06:06 PM
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