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  1. Drael646464's Avatar
    Actually I was just on twitter, they absolutely know something that we don't, hopefully it's revealed on Tuesday, hopefully it's mobile related....:)
    I agree, the tone has been dire in articles until basically just now. Its quite suspicious that they have had some inside word.

    Actually call me weird, but I have a feeling this "insider info" is about cshell. That they'll demo cshell running on windows 10 mobile.
    Last edited by Guytronic; 07-09-2017 at 08:49 PM.
    04-30-2017 11:14 PM
  2. Dune 74's Avatar
    I second that. My Idol 4s is outstanding ๐Ÿ˜
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    05-01-2017 12:01 AM
  3. Wbutchart1's Avatar
    Actually call me weird, but I have a feeling this "insider info" is about cshell. That they'll demo cshell running on windows 10 mobile.
    At this stage anything demoed on windows mobile would be seen as a win lol....even mentioning it!

    Personally I do think they have a plan, I think it's evolving as they develop technology but there is a strategy and I do think it involves windows mobile, I just wish they would tell us what it is! Now that they have killed off hardware development which Satya hated from the start, hopefully from a software development perspective they will start communicating now.

    Glad it's not just me that spotted the change in tone, wondered if it was me grasping at straws lol (could still be...)
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    05-01-2017 04:22 AM
  4. Drael646464's Avatar
    At this stage anything demoed on windows mobile would be seen as a win lol....even mentioning it!

    Personally I do think they have a plan, I think it's evolving as they develop technology but there is a strategy and I do think it involves windows mobile, I just wish they would tell us what it is! Now that they have killed off hardware development which Satya hated from the start, hopefully from a software development perspective they will start communicating now.

    Glad it's not just me that spotted the change in tone, wondered if it was me grasping at straws lol (could still be...)
    Well dan has been pretty negative, if you follow the front page, about windows 10 mobiles future. For him to suddenly come out and defend against "windows mobile is dead", seems like a shift to me, when his language has been more suggestive into now of "well it probably is, or at least might be and its more then next big thing we should be looking for".

    Regardless, I feel like cshell is close, and it make logical sense that it's close and it will probably have a consumer impact too.

    Windows/windows mobile after all comes with miracast too. Ideally you could plug in a cheap mouse, miracast or hdmi - instant PC no dock needed. Not something just for highrolling business people, but anyone who wants to stream Netflix, do some light PC work, show off some webpages, or whatever else - even just avoid having to buy a PC for emailing and working!
    Last edited by Drael646464; 05-01-2017 at 07:33 AM.
    05-01-2017 07:21 AM
  5. anthonyng's Avatar
    Well I don't blame @Daniel Rubino for the guarded stance as he has been burned in the past for saying one thing and mircrosoft doing something else.

    Though I don't think he ever said windows mobile was dead anyhow. The negative news is more about how microsoft is communicating (lack of) their plan and because of that we shouldn't support various endeavours in a phone perspective. But due to what they've done with windows now, the mobile component is never dead, it's whether an OEM can make something compelling with a windows 10 installation on a small footprint device.
    05-01-2017 12:28 PM
  6. TgeekB's Avatar
    Well I don't blame @Daniel Rubino for the guarded stance as he has been burned in the past for saying one thing and mircrosoft doing something else.

    Though I don't think he ever said windows mobile was dead anyhow. The negative news is more about how microsoft is communicating (lack of) their plan and because of that we shouldn't support various endeavours in a phone perspective. But due to what they've done with windows now, the mobile component is never dead, it's whether an OEM can make something compelling with a windows 10 installation on a small footprint device.
    I agree with that last sentence.
    Actually, its starting to feel like we're getting close to something exciting.

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
    05-01-2017 05:03 PM
  7. Richard Toft's Avatar
    Hey just played Warhammer free blade on windows 10 mobile its available on all forms so tablet and pc but also as a coninuum app just linked my 950 to a monitor and honestly this game made me smile.
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    05-01-2017 06:10 PM
  8. Windowsmoose's Avatar
    Yep, loving the fact it supports continuum, beautiful looking game too!
    05-02-2017 02:20 AM
  9. Drael646464's Avatar
    Spotify, office 365 = coming to windows store.
    05-02-2017 11:10 AM
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    05-02-2017 12:06 PM
  11. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Here's some positive Windows phone news. We're not the only dead platform!!!


    Google, Amazon, eBay Call Time Out On Apple Watch Apps (Phone Scoop)
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    05-02-2017 07:58 PM
  12. Drael646464's Avatar
    https://www.amazon.com/Alcatel-Windo...pUvbUpU3659758

    Acatel 4s is now unlocked. Which means we can use it out of the US :)

    Satya Nadella on future Windows phones: 'I'm sure we'll make more' | Windows Central

    This just in. Nadella:

    We make phones today, we have OEMs like HP making phones and others and we picked a very specific area to focus on which is management, security, and this one particular feature that we have called Continuum, which is a phone that can even be a desktop."
    "We're making sure that all of our software is available on iOS and Android and it's first class, and we're looking for what's the next change in form and function. What we've done with Surface is a good example. No one before us thought of 2-in-1s, and we created that category and made it a successful category to the point where there are more 2-in-1s coming. And that's what we want to do. So when you say we'll make more phones, I'm sure we'll make more phones, but they will not look like phones that are there today."

    That's probably as clear as it will get for the distant future. Westworld style. In the meantime there's windows 10m, and fingers crossed some more damned manufacturers!
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    05-03-2017 02:53 AM
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    Satya Nadella on future Windows phones: 'I'm sure we'll make more' | Windows Central

    This just in. Nadella:

    We make phones today, we have OEMs like HP making phones and others and we picked a very specific area to focus on which is management, security, and this one particular feature that we have called Continuum, which is a phone that can even be a desktop."
    "We're making sure that all of our software is available on iOS and Android and it's first class, and we're looking for what's the next change in form and function. What we've done with Surface is a good example. No one before us thought of 2-in-1s, and we created that category and made it a successful category to the point where there are more 2-in-1s coming. And that's what we want to do. So when you say we'll make more phones, I'm sure we'll make more phones, but they will not look like phones that are there today."

    That's probably as clear as it will get for the distant future. Westworld style. In the meantime there's windows 10m, and fingers crossed some more damned manufacturers!
    Confirm Windows on phone is not dead, and i think windows mobile is for lower hardware phones

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    05-03-2017 06:46 AM
  14. Drael646464's Avatar
    Confirm Windows on phone is not dead, and i think windows mobile is for lower hardware phones

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    Well windows on arm they have said is pitched initially at tablets, notebooks and servers. There are battery optimisation issues for a real-time OS, on smartphones. WoA as the successor to win10 mobile are not close, yet. Years off. Indeed graphene OLED, speech etc, are at least five years off. True next generation, its not that close.

    and they will still need phone form factor apps for the "mobile phone mode", when we are not going all westworld folding tablets, AR, or talking to "Her".

    So, for the time being, win10 mobile is the thing and UWP is the key to it all.

    The plan is not as ambitious for now as some would like, but it ain't dead, and it's not quite of life support. More "conserving ones energy for a strike" maybe?
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    05-03-2017 07:42 AM
  15. Windowsmoose's Avatar
    05-03-2017 02:16 PM
  16. TgeekB's Avatar
    This is great!

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
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    05-03-2017 05:11 PM
  17. Drael646464's Avatar
    This is great!

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
    That is good. I basically never use WhatsApp but once in a blue moon I'll meet someone who wants to use.

    Things seem to be looking up app wise, with Spotify and WhatsApp etc.
    05-03-2017 06:50 PM
  18. TgeekB's Avatar
    That is good. I basically never use WhatsApp but once in a blue moon I'll meet someone who wants to use.

    Things seem to be looking up app wise, with Spotify and WhatsApp etc.
    I don't use it either, but I know lots of people do.

    Sent from mTalk on my SP4
    05-03-2017 07:42 PM
  19. raycpl's Avatar
    WhatsApp is de facto king of communication/social app over this region. More frequently used than FB or FB messenger.
    Everyone, and I mean everyone. Even my elderly uncle, to his children's housemaid's butcher niece.
    We use no longer use sentences like "I'll text/sms you" but "I'll WhatsApp you"
    It has been like that for couple of years..

    ... !!
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    05-03-2017 08:06 PM
  20. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    I just bought an X3. ๐Ÿ˜ That's pretty good news for me. Ha ha I'm really looking forward to giving this phone a go.
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    05-03-2017 10:30 PM
  21. libra89's Avatar
    I just bought an X3. ๐Ÿ˜ That's pretty good news for me. Ha ha I'm really looking forward to giving this phone a go.
    Whoa congrats! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts/impressions.
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    05-03-2017 10:37 PM
  22. Windowsmoose's Avatar
    05-04-2017 03:31 AM
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    Satya Nadella on future Windows phones: 'I'm sure we'll make more' | Windows Central

    This just in. Nadella:

    We make phones today, we have OEMs like HP making phones and others and we picked a very specific area to focus on which is management, security, and this one particular feature that we have called Continuum, which is a phone that can even be a desktop."
    "We're making sure that all of our software is available on iOS and Android and it's first class, and we're looking for what's the next change in form and function. What we've done with Surface is a good example. No one before us thought of 2-in-1s, and we created that category and made it a successful category to the point where there are more 2-in-1s coming. And that's what we want to do. So when you say we'll make more phones, I'm sure we'll make more phones, but they will not look like phones that are there today."

    That's probably as clear as it will get for the distant future. Westworld style. In the meantime there's windows 10m, and fingers crossed some more damned manufacturers!

    That is great news. Not to be a negative nanny, but, when is this going down? I'm 57, I can't wait until Nadella's grand child is CEO for them to finally release something. lol Besides, my 735 won't last that long.

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    05-04-2017 08:34 AM
  24. Drael646464's Avatar
    That is great news. Not to be a negative nanny, but, when is this going down? I'm 57, I can't wait until Nadella's grand child is CEO for them to finally release something. lol Besides, my 735 won't last that long.

    Sent from mTalk
    Don't spend your final years in remorse that you don't have a westworld tablet, or a "her" phone! There couldn't be a deeper tragedy. Cryogenically freeze yourself and transport yourself directly to the future!

    You may lose an eye, or be a vegetable, but as you hold that baby in your hands and stream the latest 'fight to the death in a pit: canary islands', munching away on some food pills, in your bunker away from the sunless sky, you'll know it was all worth it.

    For a more serious answer though, foldable screens and conversation as a full platform, are probably not that far away. Maybe 5 years. Graphene is largely about the cost of manufacture.

    They could make em now, but each proto device would cost a maybe 15-20k I think. I mean they have made protos. It's pretty hard to predict something like that however, but if they could make only the seam graphene, and the cost came down a tad, perhaps it could be made affordable sometime soon. Or well by affordable, I mean a plaything for the rich.

    Machine learning and conversation as a platform is more predictable. Clearly we are making strides there. Not costly either. So something like a her phone or watch, or headset, is not inconceivable being close, even if it wouldn't actually be intelligent.
    Last edited by Guytronic; 07-09-2017 at 08:45 PM.
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    05-04-2017 08:42 AM
  25. fatclue_98's Avatar
    For a more serious answer though, foldable screens and conversation as a full platform, are probably not that far away. Maybe 5 years. Graphene is largely about the cost of manufacture.

    They could make em now, but each proto device would cost a maybe 15-20k I think. I mean they have made protos. It's pretty hard to predict something like that however, but if they could make only the seam graphene, and the cost came down a tad, perhaps it could be made affordable sometime soon. Or well by affordable, I mean a plaything for the rich.

    Machine learning and conversation as a platform is more predictable. Clearly we are making strides there. Not costly either. So something like a her phone or watch, or headset, is not inconceivable being close, even if it wouldn't actually be intelligent.
    Predictive text is largely OS-specific and the market it caters to. For example, on my iPhone as I type "I'm going into the" my next suggestion to come up is "club" while on my Windows or BlackBerry it's "office". I'm in my 50s so guess which one is most likely to be correct?
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    05-04-2017 02:57 PM
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