How hard would it be for Microsoft to change its mind on windows phone and not kill it off? And i mean 'phone' in the truest sense of the word, not a device with telephony capabilities. Is there a reason why they couldn't revive it?
You are correct and I was thinking more in the lines of Windows 10m than phone. Yes, there will be a new phone, just won't have W10M in itI don't think they are killing it off in the way people are assuming. It's more likely that they have taken the mobile platform to its limits and at this point need a more capable framework to move forward. I mean it all depends on the way people are defining a phone and the difference between what they personally define as a phone versus something else. In my mind, anything that can make a phone call is a phone, lol.
The platform that MS relies on for their mobile efforts is called the UWP. I doubt anybody could name something that the UWP should be able to do but couldn't at least potentially achieve, i.e. MS have in no way taken the UWP to its technical limits. It's certainly not standing in its own way like Win32 is, where almost any attempt to fundamentally modernize it would break compatibility with existing software.I don't think they are killing it off in the way people are assuming. It's more likely that they have taken the mobile platform to its limits and at this point need a more capable framework to move forward. I mean it all depends on the way people are defining a phone and the difference between what they personally define as a phone versus something else. In my mind, anything that can make a phone call is a phone, lol.
The only thing that makes no sense is they invested so much time and effort in developing a mobile platform and when it was actually beginning to become a full fledged OS in the form of W10M, they killed it.
KILLING IT AT NOW IS LIKE WITHDRAWING FROM THE RACE JUST BEFORE THE FINISH LINE.
Thanks for the replies guys, with regards to any new 'Windows for phones OS', do you think it will be possible to run on current devices like a Lumia 950?
The platform that MS relies on for their mobile efforts is called the UWP. I doubt anybody could name something that the UWP should be able to do but couldn't at least potentially achieve, i.e. MS have in no way taken the UWP to its technical limits. It's certainly not standing in its own way like Win32 is, where almost any attempt to fundamentally modernize it would break compatibility with existing software.
MS doesn't provide a framework for the UWP at all. It's just an API and a runtime, so I'm not sure what "needing a more capable framework (which doesn't exist) to move forward" means.
Where I agree with you is that nothing software related (with the exception of the W10M brand name), is being killed off. The UWP is just continuing to evolve as it always has. Everything that made up W10M still exists as a subset of W10. It will eventually be re-released, with a new name and a fresh layer of paint (CShell), but at its core it will still be W10M.
I wouldn't quite go that far. They've managed to make their products and services available to every mobile OS on the planet. Office products and launchers are consistently at the top of the charts on the Play Store and Office products on the Apple App Store. They're making their coin thanks to the mobile experiment. Were we suckered into being Guinea Pigs for their grand experiment? Perhaps, but we got a sweet OS in the process.What they did throw away was their their ability to compete in the smartphone market
I wouldn't quite go that far. They've managed to make their products and services available to every mobile OS on the planet. Office products and launchers are consistently at the top of the charts on the Play Store and Office products on the Apple App Store. They're making their coin thanks to the mobile experiment. Were we suckered into being Guinea Pigs for their grand experiment? Perhaps, but we got a sweet OS in the process.
Continuum was a proof of concept. What new products and/or services does Microsoft have to offer? Why go through the expense of releasing hardware if there's no new gimmick to put on the testbench? Telephony on a UMPC is next, followed by some type of Hololens contraption. They'll gauge consumer interest then axe the project as they've done in the past.Yeah, I think we're on the same page.
MS certainly has a lot of apps on iOS and Android, but they are primarily portals to services whose main value propositions stem from outside the smartphone space.
I used the term "smartphone market" to refer strictly to hardware. Without that, MS' is no longer able to drive hardware innovation in ways that would particularly benefit them, nor can they escape the risk that comes with having to rely on their competitors to reach their customers when they are "on the go".
Those are the things MS gave up on, and those problems will remain no matter how many apps MS has on Android and iOS.
Okay I used a specific term for a broad meaning. Framework was a poor choice of words, lol. I have been repeatedly told that w10m was incapable of doing what users want the way a desktop can because w10m has limitations. So I am imagining then that if truly it is those limitations that are holding back the OS from becoming what is needed they would have to create a clever way of keeping their hard work intact while addressing the issue. Unless I am totally off base here, which is possible I like many others are simply building our knowledge as we go.