1. James Falconer's Avatar
    Windows Phone. Microsoft. 3rd Parties... what are we going to see in the Windows Phone world in terms of new hardware over the next 3 months? 6 months? 1+ year from now?

    What do you think? Are we going to get new hardware from Microsoft, or will it all be third party goodness? Or nothing at all?
    04-17-2017 09:46 AM
  2. libra89's Avatar
    In the next 3 months, I see nothing. 6 months, there's that Wileyfox phone and possibly the rumored HP device. 1 year and some from now, we might see that Surface phone from Microsoft.

    I can't see Microsoft suddenly deciding to release something this year. Maybe late next year, but it's going to be a good while.
    04-17-2017 09:54 AM
  3. buzzard75's Avatar
    In the next 3 months, I see nothing. 6 months, there's that Wileyfox phone and possibly the rumored HP device. 1 year and some from now, we might see that Surface phone from Microsoft.

    I can't see Microsoft suddenly deciding to release something this year. Maybe late next year, but it's going to be a good while.
    As Daniel and others have said over and over again, they need to give us something though. Maybe not a launch, but tell us what they're working on. I'm expecting that by Microsoft Build next month or maybe a couple weeks after, we'll know a bit more about the future of Windows mobile. If they don't show us or tell us anything soon though, they're going to have an even longer and harder road to win back the mobile community.
    04-17-2017 12:07 PM
  4. libra89's Avatar
    As Daniel and others have said over and over again, they need to give us something though. Maybe not a launch, but tell us what they're working on. I'm expecting that by Microsoft Build next month or maybe a couple weeks after, we'll know a bit more about the future of Windows mobile. If they don't show us or tell us anything soon though, they're going to have an even longer and harder road to win back the mobile community.
    I totally agree. I hope that more will be said too, they kind of need to. It's been more than a year since they released ANY phones and most of the phones they have are basically out of warranty unless you're in the UK or EU.
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    04-17-2017 12:17 PM
  5. faisalbaba's Avatar
    I think Microsoft target is windows mobile to run full windows .we may not see any windows phone from Microsoft,hp in 2017.

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    04-17-2017 01:15 PM
  6. buzzard75's Avatar
    I think Microsoft target is windows mobile to run full windows .we may not see any windows phone from Microsoft,hp in 2017.

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    I'm have no doubt their goal is to run some form of full Windows 10 on mobile. However, if they don't tell us how they plan to accomplish it or show us what the architecture looks like, the user community is just going to shrink even more and become more fractured. Microsoft stated that they wanted to continue developing Windows mobile because if they stopped it would be too difficult or even impossible to restart. They're continuing to give software updates, but they're not showing us what the future really holds or if there even is a future beyond the CU. And they're certainly not showing us any devices. I already know there's no future for my particular phone as it wasn't even on the supported CU list. By not supporting current devices or at least providing an avenue for upgrades, they're alienating a lot of the user base, which just exacerbates the issue. With Android and iOS, it's automatically assumed there's going to be a new device every year from someone. That's not the case with Windows. What few third parties remain could pull out at any time (within the terms of whatever agreements they have that we aren't privy to), and that's what scares a lot of us. We don't know where the devices are going to come from or if we're even going to get devices.
    04-17-2017 01:29 PM
  7. faisalbaba's Avatar
    I'm have no doubt their goal is to run some form of full Windows 10 on mobile. However, if they don't tell us how they plan to accomplish it or show us what the architecture looks like, the user community is just going to shrink even more and become more fractured. Microsoft stated that they wanted to continue developing Windows mobile because if they stopped it would be too difficult or even impossible to restart. They're continuing to give software updates, but they're not showing us what the future really holds or if there even is a future beyond the CU. And they're certainly not showing us any devices. I already know there's no future for my particular phone as it wasn't even on the supported CU list. By not supporting current devices or at least providing an avenue for upgrades, they're alienating a lot of the user base, which just exacerbates the issue. With Android and iOS, it's automatically assumed there's going to be a new device every year from someone. That's not the case with Windows. What few third parties remain could pull out at any time (within the terms of whatever agreements they have that we aren't privy to), and that's what scares a lot of us. We don't know where the devices are going to come from or if we're even going to get devices.
    Yes, Microsoft need to clear all things about windows mobile at build 2017

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    04-17-2017 01:56 PM
  8. TgeekB's Avatar
    They're not going to reveal their plans and/or prototypes before they are ready so their competitors gain an advantage. That would be suicide. Does Apple do that?

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    04-17-2017 04:53 PM
  9. mtf1380's Avatar
    I agree with @TgeekB regarding their plans...of course a simple "we will not abandon mobile...period!" statement would go a long way:)
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    04-17-2017 05:09 PM
  10. TgeekB's Avatar
    Did anyone see Dan's article today. Helps to clear things up a bit, but doesn't reveal everything.

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    04-17-2017 05:20 PM
  11. meattray's Avatar
    Did anyone see Dan's article today. Helps to clear things up a bit, but doesn't reveal everything.

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    It sort of clarifies but really just leaves it wide open to the point that "nobody really knows what is going on". I'm not sure what to think of that.
    04-17-2017 05:47 PM
  12. Ma Rio's Avatar
    I'm guessing that we may get a few devices in 2017, but nothing important, even if HP releases the x3 refresh or whatever. The first major and noteworthy thing we're gonna see is Win on ARM, and my guess for that is somewhere in 2018. Late 2017 at best, in the case that someone's already working on it.
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    04-17-2017 07:21 PM
  13. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    Did anyone see Dan's article today. Helps to clear things up a bit, but doesn't reveal everything.

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    Nothing like a bit of clarification that doesn't really clarify anything lol
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    04-17-2017 10:13 PM
  14. PerfectReign's Avatar
    I foresee that 2017 will be The Year of the Windows Phone



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    04-17-2017 10:55 PM
  15. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    I foresee that 2017 will be The Year of the Windows Phone



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    It already was! I mean is, or maybe you're right, will be...
    04-17-2017 11:14 PM
  16. Drael646464's Avatar
    Hmm, well it seems like companies like xiaomi, cube, TCL (altacel), or HP may release windows products, given its currently a niche without much competition, unlike android.

    I can see windows cloud coming out this year, and I expect windows on arm to come out this year too - but the initial focus will be on killing the chrome book, and broadening MS's tablet marketshare.

    I am fairly confident we will see windows on ARM this year, along with windows cloud - so that's two new editions of win 10 - on arm, and cloud IMO, this year. But the focus won't be to run straight to mobile. It'll be to extend that tablet share and reclaim that budget laptop share.

    I also see Cortana's bot intergration happening this year, and likely WM will get that, seeing as they have Cortana, which will bring quite a few new tricks, like getting local news via voice, voice based games, booking hotels/taxis via voice and more. As the "skiils ecosystem" of Cortana expands, it will become fully viable as a primary control, which opens up smart IoT devices a lot.

    But I don't think MS themselves will release a mobile device this year. They MIGHT, and all this downplaying could be to increase impact of an unveil, but I suspect the surface phone, and its new form factor companion will come next year.

    The again, it could all come late this year for all I know. MS is good and hinting, but it keeps cards up its sleeve every time.

    I have a weird feeling we might see a watch. Or some kind of wearable. That might also have phone and LTE capability. It would sort of fit, with the Cortana bot intergration, to come out with not just a smart home device, but something else primarily voice operated.

    Definitely with so many pies in the over, something will come for mobile in the next two, from MS, hardware wise. In the meantime, I doubt it will be a quiet year on the software front, and I would not expect a complete absence of third party products either.
    04-18-2017 06:00 AM
  17. mjperry51's Avatar
    They're not going to reveal their plans and/or prototypes before they are ready so their competitors gain an advantage. That would be suicide. Does Apple do that?

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    What was the last revolutionary product introduced by Apple?
    04-18-2017 09:08 AM
  18. Drael646464's Avatar
    What was the last revolutionary product introduced by Apple?
    I'd say it was the iPhone. Fair while ago, but the point still makes sense IMO.
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    04-18-2017 09:57 AM
  19. worldspy99's Avatar
    Microsoft should throw some money at Alcatel to make a WM10 version of their latest Idol 5. It would make a really really good mid range device.
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    04-18-2017 12:20 PM
  20. etphoto's Avatar
    It's quite clear MS doesn't give a rat's a$$ about the WP consumer users (like us) but I can't see them screwing over HP and the business users purchasing the X3. If all of a sudden they stop working on mobile what would HP do after spending all the money on the X3 and the rumored X3 refresh?

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    04-18-2017 02:21 PM
  21. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I'd say it was the iPhone. Fair while ago, but the point still makes sense IMO.
    To Microsoft's good fortune, I'd say it was the iPad. There would be no Surface without it. Microsoft's OEM partners were still banging away slates like the Motion Computing one I'm typing this on right now. I love it, it's my workhorse, but it's heav-yyyyyyy as hell.
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    04-18-2017 04:51 PM
  22. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    To Microsoft's good fortune, I'd say it was the iPad. There would be no Surface without it. Microsoft's OEM partners were still banging away slates like the Motion Computing one I'm typing this on right now. I love it, it's my workhorse, but it's heav-yyyyyyy as hell.
    I remember playing with a Motion Computing tablet, years ago that we got to evaluate. it used a special pen ie no touch input like today so was a bit tedious to use. Needless to say it soon got abandoned. Battery life was pretty poor on it too if I remember. I am sure they've improved immensely in the years since though.
    04-18-2017 05:38 PM
  23. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I remember playing with a Motion Computing tablet, years ago that we got to evaluate. it used a special pen ie no touch input like today so was a bit tedious to use. Needless to say it soon got abandoned. Battery life was pretty poor on it too if I remember. I am sure they've improved immensely in the years since though.
    Battery life still stinks (I've got 2 battery bays!!) and my favorite part is the Wacom digitizer. I can rest my palm on it while I jot notes or just use the pen for navigation. I have the attachable keyboard with trackpad for longer write-ups like this though.
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    04-18-2017 05:56 PM
  24. LuxuryTouringZone's Avatar
    The next Windows Phone will probably come from HP. I expect all of the Windows Phones coming in 2017 to come from 3rd parties. When exactly? It's so hard to say.
    04-18-2017 11:20 PM
  25. Bigsro's Avatar
    Blatant lack of information regarding the future of Windows Phone/Mobile coupled with a lot of apps being discontinued etc just makes me think the end is nigh.

    I've been seriously thinking of moving to Android just for the ecosystem andthe fact that MS are showing iOS and Android lots of love with their own services. I love the Windows mobile interface but I think it might be time for me to move on. I'm sure I'll be back if the mythical Surface phone appears!
    04-19-2017 03:58 AM

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