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  1. Generalheed's Avatar
    Will this phone work on Verizon? The spec sheet didn't specify whether it supports CDMA or not. However, it's LTE bands do support 2/3 of Verizon's bands, especially the all important Band 13 which the Lumia 950 lacked. You generally have no reason to support Band 13 in North America unless your phone is supposed to work on Verizon.
    02-21-2016 12:45 PM
  2. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    Will this phone work on Verizon? The spec sheet didn't specify whether it supports CDMA or not. However, it's LTE bands do support 2/3 of Verizon's bands, especially the all important Band 13 which the Lumia 950 lacked. You generally have no reason to support Band 13 in North America unless your phone is supposed to work on Verizon.
    Daniel mentioned in his hands on video that HP is working on getting the phone certified with Verizon. Which means that the hardware/bands are already there. It's just a matter of certification with Verizon. I'm sure Verizon certification is a priority for HP, as Verizon is a major carrier for enterprise. Hopefully it happens.
    02-21-2016 01:19 PM
  3. Mr. MacPhisto's Avatar
    The deal with the FCC means that Verizon has to allow the Elite X3 on their network if it gets certified by a third party. This happened with the Nexus 5X, 6P, and the Moto X Pure Edition. HP is not going to say it will work until they have it certified, but I'd imagine they will get that third party certification and Verizon will have no choice but to allow it.

    I'm sure this is a consideration with HP. They apparently have around 60 business partners they are working with. Verizon has the largest presence with business of any of the carriers. I know of several major corporations that pay for service for employees that use Verizon and require it. That's where my connection is with VZW, in corporate sales. HP knows this as do their partners. But we're several months away from release, so we probably won't hear about certification until the phone is fully finalized and nearing shipment.

    I would be very surprised if it's not able to work on Verizon. Of course, I thought the 950s would as well since CDMA tech is built into the Snapdragon 808 and 810. I wonder if Microsoft didn't certify it in order to leave the path clear for HP? Would not be surprised if HP serves most of the companies that have large contracts with Verizon. If MS knew HP was going to do this - and I'm sure they did - then they don't want to pre-empt them. Could be wrong there, but it may explain why Microsoft didn't do the third party cert.
    02-21-2016 05:09 PM
  4. Alain_A's Avatar
    would be very surprised if it's not able to work on Verizon. Of course, I thought the 950s would as well since CDMA tech is built into the Snapdragon 808 and 810. I wonder if Microsoft didn't certify it in order to leave the path clear for HP? Would not be surprised if HP serves most of the companies that have large contracts with Verizon. If MS knew HP was going to do this - and I'm sure they did - then they don't want to pre-empt them. Could be wrong there, but it may explain why Microsoft didn't do the third party cert.
    That makes a lot of sense
    02-21-2016 05:12 PM
  5. onlysublime's Avatar
    6 inches is awfully big. But if it works on Verizon, I'm definitely considering it.

    I love love love my HTC One M8 for Windows Phone. But I'm ready to upgrade. The camera is the only reason I really want to upgrade as the HTC camera is a POS. Luckily, I can wait a bit longer to see if a Surface Phone comes out. I thought the Lumia 1520 was too big so this HP might be too big as well.
    02-21-2016 05:26 PM
  6. etphoto's Avatar
    6 inches is awfully big. But if it works on Verizon, I'm definitely considering it.

    I love love love my HTC One M8 for Windows Phone. But I'm ready to upgrade. The camera is the only reason I really want to upgrade as the HTC camera is a POS. Luckily, I can wait a bit longer to see if a Surface Phone comes out. I thought the Lumia 1520 was too big so this HP might be too big as well.

    Look for HTC's next Win 10 phone to be a Verizon.

    Sent from my Surface 3
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    02-21-2016 06:00 PM
  7. onlysublime's Avatar
    The HTC phones just look so stylish and can sit proudly next to all the iPhones and Android phones out there. I had the Icon before (twice actually) and while it's also a great phone (with a much better camera), I now consider the HTC superior overall. It's too bad that Windows Phone fans didn't give it much thought.

    Everyone sees my phone and just goes, "oh, is that the HTC One M8?" and moves on, assuming it's the Android version. Little do they know...
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    02-21-2016 06:44 PM
  8. Generalheed's Avatar
    Look for HTC's next Win 10 phone to be a Verizon.

    Sent from my Surface 3
    I just want a high end phone on Verizon within the next 1.5 years. I've waited almost a year since my Verizon contract was up and I decided I couldn't wait any long since my Icon was falling apart. So I ended up upgrading to the Galaxy S6 in the meantime hoping that Verizon will carry a new flagship Windows Phone by the time my contract is up again. Hopefully by then there'll also be a Surface Phone available on Verizon too. If not, the HP phone will do just fine. And it should be cheaper too by the time my contract is up for renewal again.
    02-22-2016 10:55 AM
  9. RumoredNow's Avatar
    HP Elite x3 Windows Phone FAQ - Your questions answered | Windows Central

    Although HP is aiming this phone squarely (and solely) at businesses, yes, consumers will be able to buy it too.

    Details are limited, but you should be able to purchase the phone direct through HP and even Microsoft, who will more than likely sell the phone through their online and physical retail stores.


    At this time, there is no reason to expect traditional consumer retail chains or carriers to stock this phone. This lack of availability is a good thing as it means there is a lot less pressure from the consumer market on HP.
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    02-22-2016 02:29 PM
  10. Zulfigar's Avatar
    From people on T-Mobile, we hope for the best to our family on Verizon!
    02-22-2016 02:34 PM
  11. Nicholas Maguire's Avatar
    It could get certified to use Verizon's network unlocked :) The fact that this is an enterprise phone gives me more faith that HP will get it Verizon certified.
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    02-22-2016 05:27 PM
  12. RumoredNow's Avatar
    It could get certified to use Verizon's network unlocked :) The fact that this is an enterprise phone gives me more faith that HP will get it Verizon certified.
    I'm sure it could. It may even get offered to Vzw business accounts. Will it ever be in your local Vzw store???
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    02-22-2016 05:29 PM
  13. DavidinCT's Avatar
    WOW, I want this phone... Way better than the 950XL....
    02-22-2016 07:52 PM
  14. Alain_A's Avatar
    WOW, I want this phone... Way better than the 950XL....
    what, not better to wait for the x86 phone from MS?
    02-22-2016 08:43 PM
  15. DavidinCT's Avatar
    what, not better to wait for the x86 phone from MS?
    Not sure at this point. How a x86 processor is going to work on a phone, what apps it can run, etc. I could get this phone, RDP into my home computer where ever I am...and I have a full X86 phone anyway :)

    Not sure on x86 on a phone at this point, not too many phones use it (do any right now ?) and in the early stages of the chips, it might be buggy.

    Rumor is we should heard about the so called x86 phone pretty soon so maybe we'll have some specs before this phone hits the market...
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    02-22-2016 08:51 PM
  16. Bbeelzebub's Avatar
    My Note 4 seems so small. I'm dying to leave Google behind and dump Android. This may be the phone that allows me to do that. If the camera is up to snuff, I think it will make the decision even easier.

    (I don't really care about apps as I use so few anyhow.)
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    02-22-2016 08:54 PM
  17. Alain_A's Avatar
    Not sure at this point. How a x86 processor is going to work on a phone, what apps it can run, etc. I could get this phone, RDP into my home computer where ever I am...and I have a full X86 phone anyway :)

    Not sure on x86 on a phone at this point, not too many phones use it (do any right now ?) and in the early stages of the chips, it might be buggy.

    Rumor is we should heard about the so called x86 phone pretty soon so maybe we'll have some specs before this phone hits the market...
    what is that?
    02-22-2016 09:03 PM
  18. Alain_A's Avatar
    My Note 4 seems so small. I'm dying to leave Google behind and dump Android. This may be the phone that allows me to do that. If the camera is up to snuff, I think it will make the decision even easier.

    (I don't really care about apps as I use so few anyhow.)
    depends what you are expected from phone camera....it might not be
    02-22-2016 09:04 PM
  19. aximtreo's Avatar
    I'm sure it could. It may even get offered to Vzw business accounts. Will it ever be in your local Vzw store???
    As long as I can get one that works on Verizon, I don't much care where I buy it. A posting above mentions that MS may have passed on Verizon because of the HP inroads to the enterprise market. A market that MS dominates in the standard Win 10 useage. I think this makes sense and if we see a beefed up MS phone, I would be very surprised.
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    02-23-2016 07:23 AM
  20. sprtfan's Avatar
    what is that?
    RDP= Remote Desktop Protacal
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    02-23-2016 08:57 AM
  21. Generalheed's Avatar
    I'm sure it could. It may even get offered to Vzw business accounts. Will it ever be in your local Vzw store???
    Since it's business oriented, it probably won't be offered in a local Verizon store. It might be online only or you have to buy it directly from HP. Who knows?
    02-23-2016 10:00 PM
  22. Generalheed's Avatar
    Not sure at this point. How a x86 processor is going to work on a phone, what apps it can run, etc. I could get this phone, RDP into my home computer where ever I am...and I have a full X86 phone anyway :)

    Not sure on x86 on a phone at this point, not too many phones use it (do any right now ?) and in the early stages of the chips, it might be buggy.

    Rumor is we should heard about the so called x86 phone pretty soon so maybe we'll have some specs before this phone hits the market...
    Well, supposedly x86 in a phone offers better performance and lower power consumption thanks to Intel's 14 nm and soon 10 nm process. Therefore, an x86 phone with say an Atom x7 processor, could outperform most high end ARM phones while using equal or less power. At least that's what Intel intends the advantages of x86 to be in a phone.

    As for apps, as we've seen with x86 Android phones, you'll still be able to run most if not all smartphone apps for that platform. The x86 CPU was powerful enough to emulate ARM instructions on Android for native apps while the majority of other apps ran in a cross platform VM anyways. With Windows 10 Mobile, all apps built for W10 are meant to be universal from the start so you don't lose out on any store apps by going x86. The dream everyone has with x86 phones is that with continuum, you'll be able to plug your phone in anywhere and in that desktop mode, run x86 apps natively. It's better than RDP since it doesn't rely on a host computer being constantly active and if you're going to play games or other multimedia, RDP is horrible for that.

    An x86 Surface Phone or something along that line could finally answer yes to the question of "Can it run Crysis?".
    02-23-2016 10:11 PM
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    02-24-2016 01:43 AM
  24. DavidinCT's Avatar

    As for apps, as we've seen with x86 Android phones, you'll still be able to run most if not all smartphone apps for that platform. The x86 CPU was powerful enough to emulate ARM instructions on Android for native apps while the majority of other apps ran in a cross platform VM anyways. With Windows 10 Mobile, all apps built for W10 are meant to be universal from the start so you don't lose out on any store apps by going x86. The dream everyone has with x86 phones is that with continuum, you'll be able to plug your phone in anywhere and in that desktop mode, run x86 apps natively. It's better than RDP since it doesn't rely on a host computer being constantly active and if you're going to play games or other multimedia, RDP is horrible for that.

    An x86 Surface Phone or something along that line could finally answer yes to the question of "Can it run Crysis?".
    No, it wont run Crysis (although, mid range hardware today should be able to run Crysis 1 with moderate graphics level) but, x86 on a phone is ONLY a really big deal to corporate customers when it comes down to it (who is REALLY going to care). You have companies who have Win32 apps that are very detailed to their company and that has been the biggest issue with phone lineup. No phones will run native Windows apps. If they can do a minor conversion with out changing all their code (comanies who made the software dont support it for example) and run it on a phone, it would be a big deal.

    Now, if the benifits to a better app compatbilty (iOS/Android on WP/WM) and if there was a MAJOR jump in battery life, then it would be a big deal.

    When it comes down to it to "Joe Sixpack", He wants a phone that runs good, good battery life and runs major apps....You dont need x86 support to get that.

    Then you talk about the business companies, a RDP/Citrix option that will run on the phone will hold data security very well (no data on the phone, No direct access, only a remote session) that will be easy to use on a phone would be huge for banking and goverment type places due to the level of security required.

    There always be different ways to do this. If a phone can run a old x86 Windows program that runs fine on a x64 processor, then I guess it would be pretty cool....but, for sure, I dont see it running Crysis :)

    What I am trying to get at, the X3 with it's CPU, will do pretty much everything DESIGNED FOR W10M, as the x86 phone will. Is there really a NEED for x86 on a phone ?

    As long as I can get one that works on Verizon, I don't much care where I buy it. A posting above mentions that MS may have passed on Verizon because of the HP inroads to the enterprise market. A market that MS dominates in the standard Win 10 useage. I think this makes sense and if we see a beefed up MS phone, I would be very surprised.
    Verizon support is no brainer for HP in the US. Largest carrier and a lot of companies use Verizon because of their coverage. If they want this be available for more customers, Verizon WILL happen.

    I see HP allowing this through other sites, from Microsoft, direct on HP's site... Even if it's only through corporate customers only, a few weeks you'll always find a few available on ebay or Swappa...

    Only problem if carriers dont get it, is no discounted pricing, if the phone is $799 (and $699-799 is my estimate), it will be $799....No carrier or promo discounts for a long time.

    This will limit the access by a lot of people...
    Last edited by DavidinCT; 02-24-2016 at 09:20 AM.
    02-24-2016 09:01 AM
  25. Bbeelzebub's Avatar
    depends what you are expected from phone camera....it might not be
    I'd hope for a decent camera sensor and OIS.

    That being said, HP never had a good record with digital cameras, so I shouldn't get my hopes up. It's doubtful they will be using the latest Sony sensors. Cameras and Screens are the only things that keep me going back to Samsung, it surely is never their software.
    02-25-2016 03:27 AM
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