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  1. Upstate Dunadan's Avatar
    Just went back to find it, but cant. There was a post here or somewhere else linking to a Redit conversation where a couple Microsoft employees were saying the band worked fine if you have Developer Preview of 8.1. I wonder if that critical update last week was related.
    10-30-2014 11:01 AM
  2. MikeSo's Avatar
    Just went back to find it, but cant. There was a post here or somewhere else linking to a Redit conversation where a couple Microsoft employees were saying the band worked fine if you have Developer Preview of 8.1. I wonder if that critical update last week was related.
    Here: ScientiaEstPotentia comments on Microsoft announce a $199 fitness tracker

    [–]bikerboy2712 1 point 2 hours ago
    How does it connect then? With regular Bluetooth?

    [–]ScientiaEstPotentia [score hidden] 41 minutes ago
    I'm not sure exactly how, all I know is that I had no issues with my Icon on Dev Preview and I'd guess that regular bluetooth would work fine

    Very encouraging! I'm definitely getting one now. :)
    10-30-2014 11:03 AM
  3. deejohdumb's Avatar
    I called Verizon to see when cyan will be released. They told me around Nov 14-16 our thereabouts. So the band should for sure work perfectly before Christmas.
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    10-30-2014 11:44 AM
  4. AR2186's Avatar
    That is good news! Does it show up as a paired device in your Bluetooth settings then? Does it sync, shows messages etc?
    That's great news, guess it doesn't need 4.0
    10-30-2014 11:59 AM
  5. meathead88's Avatar
    That is good news! Does it show up as a paired device in your Bluetooth settings then? Does it sync, shows messages etc?
    Yes, yes, and yes :)
    10-30-2014 12:07 PM
  6. meathead88's Avatar
    That's great news, guess it doesn't need 4.0
    I've had for a couple hours and all is still working as expected. No issues .
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    10-30-2014 12:08 PM
  7. meathead88's Avatar
    I will say i haven't been able to quick reply to a text from the watch. But im not sure what the issue could be.
    10-30-2014 12:10 PM
  8. JM_T's Avatar
    I've had for a couple hours and all is still working as expected. No issues .
    That's awesome! So it's not dependent on BT4.0LE after all! I guess I'll be placing my order!
    10-30-2014 12:14 PM
  9. nullref's Avatar
    "I will say i haven't been able to quick reply to a text from the watch. But im not sure what the issue could be. "

    I'll bet you don't see Cortana tile, Facebook tile, twitter tiles? if so the limitation is 8.1 vs 8.1 Update... go to the "manage tiles" page, and on the top take the update to 8.1 update to get the full functionality... 8.1 is only half the story... 8.1 Update is where you ultimately want to be.
    10-30-2014 12:20 PM
  10. Upstate Dunadan's Avatar
    Next two days, assuming MS store ships today, are going to be LONG. I have the App (it wasn't in Store, needed to use DL link on MS Store Band product page) but until you pair the Band you can't even get in to play. I hope there is an App or webpage for the Surface. Sometimes its easier to work with the health/fitness data outside the phone.
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    10-30-2014 12:43 PM
  11. colinkiama's Avatar
    It needs cyan since it requires Bluetooth 4.0 LE.
    10-30-2014 12:43 PM
  12. MikeSo's Avatar
    It needs cyan since it requires Bluetooth 4.0 LE.
    That's what I said too, but apparently it works with the Icon anyway, according to several people who have tried it. Good to hear!
    10-30-2014 12:45 PM
  13. meathead88's Avatar
    "I will say i haven't been able to quick reply to a text from the watch. But im not sure what the issue could be. "

    I'll bet you don't see Cortana tile, Facebook tile, twitter tiles? if so the limitation is 8.1 vs 8.1 Update... go to the "manage tiles" page, and on the top take the update to 8.1 update to get the full functionality... 8.1 is only half the story... 8.1 Update is where you ultimately want to be.
    Those tiles work fine, so that's not it...
    10-30-2014 01:27 PM
  14. Kleeshay's Avatar
    My Icon with the latest Dev Preview is working very well with the band. I also discovered, like Meathead88, that it will not send outgoing text replies. However, Cortana is working just fine. I asked her the weather and it displayed on my band.

    It was a pleasant surprise that the Icon/ Band pairing worked without Cyan. I went to the Microsoft Store expecting disappointment. Instead the one disappointed is my girlfriend, who apparently decided this morning the Band would be my Christmas present. Whoops!
    10-30-2014 01:29 PM
  15. ryknown's Avatar
    The band would connect to my 822 on the latest Dev Preview but would disconnect immediately. I had four MS employees attempting to get the Band to pair and stay connected for 30 minutes, but it wouldn't work. We tried three different Bands and performed the factory reset on each one, but it still did not work.

    I was going to buy a Blu contact free phone to use this for workouts/mountain biking only, but the Blu phone doesn't work with Verizon.

    The only phone they had in the store for Verizon that would pair with the Band was the new HTC M8.
    10-30-2014 02:52 PM
  16. RealtorTechGuy's Avatar
    Does anyone known if the Band will pair with the device and pair with another device? The point would be to pair the Band to the phone and phone paired to BT headphones, car BT? Or is the what BT 4.0 offers?
    10-30-2014 02:58 PM
  17. DrFate's Avatar
    The band would connect to my 822 on the latest Dev Preview but would disconnect immediately. I had four MS employees attempting to get the Band to pair and stay connected for 30 minutes, but it wouldn't work. We tried three different Bands and performed the factory reset on each one, but it still did not work.

    I was going to buy a Blu contact free phone to use this for workouts/mountain biking only, but the Blu phone doesn't work with Verizon.

    The only phone they had in the store for Verizon that would pair with the Band was the new HTC M8.
    Mine did the same thing for me this morning, but then this afternoon it has started to stay connected. Odd.
    10-30-2014 03:18 PM
  18. onlysublime's Avatar
    I have the Band with my Icon... It works but I think not having Cyan is gimping the functionality. Because I can't imagine some of the functionality being like this.

    For example, the heart rate monitor isn't always on. Once you go to the heart rate monitor, it has to acquire your heart rate. Once it's acquired, it's "locked" and monitoring your heart rate. But you have to do this every time! I think once it goes to sleep as well, when you go back to the heart rate monitor, it has to reacquire and lock the heart rate. With Bluetooth 4.0 LE, it should be able to constantly monitor.

    You can pair the Band and other Bluetooth devices simultaneously. So I can have my Bluetooth headset for voice, my Bluetooth speaker for music, and the Band all activated simultaneously. That's unless one of your devices locks out the other one. One of my Bluetooth speakers (piece of crap) will activate both voice and music simultaneously, thus locking out my Bluetooth headset for voice. Luckily, my other Bluetooth speaker knows to switch to music only if I activate my voice headset.


    First impressions... very cool device. I've been shopping fitness watches for awhile now but have been waiting for this one because of the additional sensors...

    I picked up the medium. There are 3 band sizes and they're not interchangeable. I think this is a mistake as I can see a lot of exchanges as people get the right size band. You have to return the entire device to get another one that fits more appropriately. I'm right in-between medium and large. It has a ratchet type system to tighten which works really well. With the medium, I'm on the far side of the spectrum where it's near its longest position. It also depends on how close or far from the wrist you like to wear watches or bands. I like to wear it farther from the wrist. With the large, I'm closer to the shortest position. So with either band, I'm not near the middle of the range. I do plan on exchanging for a large band as I'd rather ratchet it all the way short instead of barely having the ratchet on. I don't know who the small band is for. Maybe kids and really really dainty girls.

    Also, just eyeballing the band, you can't tell what size is what size. There didn't seem to be any markings on the band. People were browsing the bands like crazy and if people don't put bands back where they belong, it can become a mess. The reps were asking each other if so-and-so band was medium or large as people were mixing up the bands. A customer was asking, "is this the medium or large?" and the rep was going "I think it's the medium.". You literally had to stack the bands to compare sizes to figure out what was large and what was medium.

    Factors to consider as well...

    It fits comfortably if you wear short sleeve or no sleeve. Most work days though, I'm wearing dress shirts. I like slim fit or custom tailored. So normally I don't wear watches. With the band on (because of the width), my cuffs no longer fit right. It's tighter than I prefer. If you wear very loosely very near the wrist (like you would if you wore a bracelet), then you can probably get away with a dress shirt. However, I don't know how good the sensor contact would be if you wear the band like that.

    The view of the screen great especially if you wear it with the screen on the inside of the arm. This is the way I prefer anyway when I used to wear watches. It's because it allows you to see the information while you're working on a patient or doing something with your hands busy without having to pronate your arm. You simply shift your arm to see the information or supinate slightly. Better to supinate 5 degrees rather than pronate 30 degrees.

    The charging dock is great.

    I don't think it has Gorilla Glass. They gave me a screen protector as well as a Starbucks gift card to fill the Starbucks app.

    They kept stressing to me it's water resistant versus waterproof. I was disappointed in this as I swim an hour daily and was hoping to use this in the pool. The website says the following which would seem like it'd be compatible with swimming (the IPX7 standard)

    Microsoft Band meets these standards for water resistance:

    IP67: IP67 means protection against temporary immersion at depth of 1 meter for 30 minutes.
    IP6X: No ingress of dust. Complete protection against entry of dust.
    IPX7: Protection against temporary immersion (at depth of 1 meter for 30 minutes).


    Second impressions

    I guess I can recap the buying experience. Got the medium. Got the Starbucks gift card. Got the Zagg screen protector. Got a Microsoft baseball cap. Got the Nature bar and Gatorade. I didn't get the protection plan. They told me it's 13 months. I said is this 13 months from when I buy it and they said yes. That made it a "no" for me.

    I'm using it as my watch on my right hand because I'm left-handed (most people wear the watch on the opposite hand that they write with).

    I've had more time to play with the functionality.

    The mail is only from the time you activate the watch. Meaning as new mail comes in, I get notifications and can read them. However, I can't go back to mail that I had before I bought and turned on the watch. So think of when you bought the watch and day 1 and any mail since then will be readable on the watch. Your phone will give some haptic feedback as you get new mail. If you get tons of emails, this can be annoying so you can set it to only notify you when your VIP, that you designate, sends you mail. You see the first 40 characters of the subject heading and the first 120 characters of the body text. Works great. I just wish you could tap the email to launch the email app on the phone so you can respond.

    Now, I have multiple email accounts across Yahoo, Gmail, and Hotmail/Outlook. I have no idea how it knows which email to check. But I am getting the email from my most used account. I think it's looking at your Microsoft account and figuring out from that because there's no settings to input anything anywhere! I have never tied my Facebook account to my Microsoft account so I think that's why it's not pulling my Facebook info. I can't figure out how to set up my Facebook account to the band without tying it to my Microsoft account.

    I think the same notifications applies for the other features. It's from day 1 onward. So you can't go back and check calls from before you bought the watch. You can't go back and check calendar from before you bought the watch.

    You can rearrange the tiles on the band. You can also dictate what tiles are available. So if you don't have need for all the tiles, you can remove them. If you want more tiles, you can add (up to the limit of 11 I believe).

    The calendar is fantastic. It lets you see the week from today to the next seven days. I have multiple Outlook.com calendars and my friends and coworkers have shared their calendars with me. And the band will show everyone's calendar (based on how I have it set at Outlook.com). The appointments aren't stacked so if today has 7 appointments, it will be 7 events laterally so I scroll laterally to see the 7 events and then if I continue, I will see the next day.

    Loving the weather too. Really nice to check it quickly without having to pull out your phone.

    You can set the watch mode on or off. "Watch mode on" means the band is always showing the time. It's white text on the black background. "Watch mode off" means the screen is black when it goes to sleep and you have to tap the power button to wake it up.

    If you're at the home screen, you can tap it to bring up the fitness functionality. The step counter seems like all the other step counters. Not more or less accurate. I've never found step counters to be particularly accurate. They always seem to balloon your step count.

    I'm really liking the band. I've gotten used to the way it feels. I did go back to the store to get the large band versus my medium band. Too late. All the large and mediums are gone from the store and backordered. Lots of small bands there still. Somehow my medium feels smaller than the store's medium (which was the reason I bought medium in the first place). Got me thinking whether a small band accidentally got packaged into my medium box since there are zero markings indicating what size the band is. Stupid me didn't think of opening my box and comparing my band to the store's bands. I got on the backorder list for large but it's not a dealbreaker if I stick with medium because large is really large and I have to rachet it to the max to fit (and at max, it's not tight if I ever wanted tight).
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    10-30-2014 11:08 PM
  19. g808's Avatar
    I'm using the Band with the Icon with no issues.
    10-30-2014 11:46 PM
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