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  1. Redn2000's Avatar
    I'm glad to see positive experiences with continuum, especially from a business standpoint.
    12-17-2015 08:46 AM
  2. 920Walker's Avatar
    My Point is that you could have done exactly the same with Office on Android AND you would actually have had a better result (i.e. a real presenter mode).
    There is no need for "wow, how cool Continuum is" as the truth (in this case) is that it was not cool at all.

    Cantinuum was in this case actually less useful compared to what Microsoft offers for Android combined with the connectivity features of most Android phones.
    I think many on this board should open their eyes and start to compare things more open-minded.
    I could be a billionaire, if I had a billion dollars. But I make do with what I have.

    Preach what you sow, with that open mind.
    12-17-2015 08:47 AM
  3. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    Are you seriously so entrenched in that reddit and digg mentality that you can't prefer something without trying to make others feel bad about what they like? Are you ACTUALLY getting off on downvoting in real life? What do you possibly think your comments are adding to this discussion? Do you think they are composed of retconotons and are somehow changing my actual, real and positive experience?
    No, I do not think that is the ”thing”.
    I’m not talking about the person, I am talking about Continuum vs the market standard.

    The person that did the presentation has all reasons to be proud of a well done presentation!

    What I tried to add to the conversation is that Continuum did not do anything special that could not have been done (in an even easier way) using a simple Android phone with MS Office.
    12-17-2015 09:18 AM
  4. Snoke's Avatar
    No, I do not think that is the ”thing”.
    What I tried to add to the conversation is that Continuum did not do anything special that could not have been done (in an even easier way) using a simple Android phone with MS Office.
    I have to wonder why then when ever I have seen a Continuum demo/review video or read a review - many from people who aren't MS fans. Not one has said this Continuum is no big deal Android does a better job ? I feel if your statement was true I would have head that from them likely many times. I believe Continuum is and/or at least will be a big thing.

    What I tried to add to the conversation is that Continuum did not do anything special that could not have been done (in an even easier way) using a simple Android phone with MS Office.
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    12-17-2015 09:48 AM
  5. jamesdentok's Avatar
    HAHAHAHA... Love this reply. I guess some people are divergent to change.
    12-17-2015 09:53 AM
  6. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    I have to wonder why then when ever I have seen a Continuum demo/review video or read a review - many from people who aren't MS fans. Not one has said this Continuum is no big deal Android does a better job ? I feel if your statement was true I would have head that from them likely many times. I believe Continuum is and/or at least will be a big thing.
    Fact 1:
    There was a presentation made via Office/Powerpoint using Continuum and Office for W10M

    Fact 2:
    Office for Android has a "presentation mode" and is thus better for the task. It can also be connected via USB/HDMI cable or Miracast.

    So, is Continuum the super cool/wow/big thing here in the example?

    (I'm not downgrading the presentation, I strongly belive it was a very good one)
    12-17-2015 09:59 AM
  7. rhapdog's Avatar
    @Ian_Superfly: I understand your exuberance for your platform. Nothing wrong with it. I have the same exuberance for my platform.

    You did have a serious error, however, in your presented logic. While everything you stated about Office on Android was true, it was based off of an incorrect assumption, I'm afraid.

    Fact 1:
    There was a presentation made via Office/Powerpoint using Continuum and Office for W10M
    As stated in the opening post, he was using Microsoft Word, not PowerPoint. Does Microsoft Word have a "presentation mode" on Android? According to the write-up on the Google Play store, the presentation mode is only for PowerPoint.

    Fact 2:
    Office for Android has a "presentation mode" and is thus better for the task. It can also be connected via USB/HDMI cable or Miracast.
    I'm afraid this doesn't apply, since PowerPoint was not used.

    In order to do the presentation with an Android device, you would have had to do the screen mirroring technique, and it would have been less impressive, as you're going to see things exactly the way a phone would have presented it, only on a bigger screen. Word just isn't as impressive on an Android Phone as it is on a Laptop. With Continuum, Microsoft Word is able to change the scaling and what is displayed so that you get the full desktop experience, as if the presenter had plugged in a laptop instead of a phone. In THIS particular case, Continuum wins.

    My understanding of Continuum is that the phone does indeed become a remote control for presentation for PowerPoint when doing a PowerPoint presentation. This just wasn't the case for this, since Word was being used. Someone with Continuum please correct me if I'm wrong there, it just seems that was something I remembered (hopefully correctly) from one of the Continuum demos that I've seen.

    Also, since this was "business use", an Office 365 subscription would have been required on Android. It is not required for Windows 10 Mobile, which means Windows 10 Mobile saves money each month for this type of usage.

    Great job, occamsmonkey!
    12-17-2015 10:39 AM
  8. occamsmonkey's Avatar
    As stated in the opening post, he was using Microsoft Word, not PowerPoint.
    That is correct. This was a situation where my two co-presenters (who had the laptops for presenting) were unable to make it last-minute. The presentation existed in Word in an email chain. I would not have been able to make a PowerPoint as this happened at the beginning of the meeting.
    12-17-2015 10:45 AM
  9. mtf1380's Avatar
    For my 2 cents:
    I'm sure Android is a great product...I wouldn't know.

    As for the Windows platform: I like it, I have always like it (since my 920, in 2012), and will probably always like it.

    - the learning curve is consistent across all my devices - so when I find myself in front of an audience unexpectedly, on a device I haven't used in awhile, I KNOW that if it's a Windows Devices, I will not have to fumble with an unfamiliar UI, so as NOT to look unprepared.

    -as far as my 950xl not having everything available, nor is it as mature AS IT WILL BE, I am quite confident that MS will have the presentation feature (and a lot more) available soon. Who knows...maybe they are working on a better presentation mode, and/or other MORE pressing features, but I don't feel slighted by not having everything, up and running - at the launch of a new and exciting UI. Heck I knew it was going to have bugs when they were unable to give a firm launch date at the Oct. 6th Event.
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    12-17-2015 10:48 AM
  10. rhapdog's Avatar
    Just confirmed, yes, the phone can be used as a controller for a PowerPoint presentation while using Continuum. Unfortunately, it's not what the OP needed. Still, to cite Android's ability of doing a presentation as something not available in Continuum was a misunderstanding of Continuum and what has been implemented since the introduction of Windows 10 Mobile for the Office Mobile apps.

    Having done this research makes me even more impressed with continuum. I want a 950XL so bad right now.
    12-17-2015 12:01 PM
  11. Keith White Jr's Avatar
    My Point is that you could have done exactly the same with Office on Android AND you would actually have had a better result (i.e. a real presenter mode).
    There is no need for "wow, how cool Continuum is" as the truth (in this case) is that it was not cool at all.

    Cantinuum was in this case actually less useful compared to what Microsoft offers for Android combined with the connectivity features of most Android phones.
    I think many on this board should open their eyes and start to compare things more open-minded.

    How would he have hooked the Android phone up to the projector? And who's Android phone would he have used if he had a WP in his pocket and wasn't actually expecting to use a phone for the presentation? I'm confused by what your saying other than trying to make an unnecessary and totally unrelated point of MS apps being better on non-MS platforms.

    Am I missing something here?
    12-17-2015 12:17 PM
  12. snakebitten's Avatar
    I'm ok with the current bragging of IOS\Android users when us tiny contingent folks are celebrating our progress.
    Cuz I think I am NOT exaggerating when I say I see what's coming.

    I might never win a snap-chat debate with those folks. But they'll likely avoid me at the office, or in the car, or hotel room, or ..... when it comes to earning my pay. The writing is on the wall.

    Having said that, my excitement isn't really about which platform wins or loses. I'm more selfish than that. I just want the power to accomplish at my fingertips! Continuum is incredibly on target in so many ways.
    12-17-2015 12:47 PM
  13. cracgor's Avatar
    If anyone hasn't tried it before. Office Remote is a really cool app that lets you present from your phone. Only downside is that it requires a computer too with office remote installed on it -- integrated into powerpoint. It was I think originally only available on Windows Phone. I used it quite a bit, since you could fake laser point and preview the slide while not being tied to the podium. I don't know if miracasting from your phone works, the same, but it works well on my surface too with a presenter view. ONLY downside is still the lag with miracast for drawing, etc.
    12-17-2015 01:51 PM
  14. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    @Ian_Superfly: I understand your exuberance for your platform. Nothing wrong with it. I have the same exuberance for my platform.

    You did have a serious error, however, in your presented logic. While everything you stated about Office on Android was true, it was based off of an incorrect assumption, I'm afraid.


    As stated in the opening post, he was using Microsoft Word, not PowerPoint. Does Microsoft Word have a "presentation mode" on Android? According to the write-up on the Google Play store, the presentation mode is only for PowerPoint.


    I'm afraid this doesn't apply, since PowerPoint was not used.

    In order to do the presentation with an Android device, you would have had to do the screen mirroring technique, and it would have been less impressive, as you're going to see things exactly the way a phone would have presented it, only on a bigger screen. Word just isn't as impressive on an Android Phone as it is on a Laptop. With Continuum, Microsoft Word is able to change the scaling and what is displayed so that you get the full desktop experience, as if the presenter had plugged in a laptop instead of a phone. In THIS particular case, Continuum wins.

    My understanding of Continuum is that the phone does indeed become a remote control for presentation for PowerPoint when doing a PowerPoint presentation. This just wasn't the case for this, since Word was being used. Someone with Continuum please correct me if I'm wrong there, it just seems that was something I remembered (hopefully correctly) from one of the Continuum demos that I've seen.

    Also, since this was "business use", an Office 365 subscription would have been required on Android. It is not required for Windows 10 Mobile, which means Windows 10 Mobile saves money each month for this type of usage.

    Great job, occamsmonkey!
    You are right! I admit 100%, no excuses.
    I was obviously too fed up with the situation to even read the first post detailed enough.
    Using WORD as described in the first post would not have been any better using an Android.
    I bow my head to "the winners" and admit.
    12-17-2015 02:12 PM
  15. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    How would he have hooked the Android phone up to the projector? And who's Android phone would he have used if he had a WP in his pocket and wasn't actually expecting to use a phone for the presentation? I'm confused by what your saying other than trying to make an unnecessary and totally unrelated point of MS apps being better on non-MS platforms.

    Am I missing something here?
    You are most likely not missing as much as I did. I was wrong as I read the first post as he was using Power point.
    My point regarding Android/powerpoint was that it was at least as good as Cantinuum/powerpoint but as it obviously was not the case it is an 100% irrelevant statement.
    I was comparing "having a modern Android with USB/HDMI or Miracast" to "W10M with Continuum" (that is what you where "missing" but again, I agree that that "miss" is nothing to the miss I did...
    12-17-2015 02:19 PM
  16. mtf1380's Avatar
    Ian_Superfly - it takes a Big Man to......

    Cheers!
    12-17-2015 03:38 PM
  17. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    Ian_Superfly - it takes a Big Man to......

    Cheers!
    OR a BIG mistake. ;-)
    Cheers
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    12-17-2015 04:20 PM
  18. rhapdog's Avatar
    You are right! I admit 100%, no excuses.
    I was obviously too fed up with the situation to even read the first post detailed enough.
    Using WORD as described in the first post would not have been any better using an Android.
    I bow my head to "the winners" and admit.
    It's not about winning. I'm retired. I don't care about winning anymore, except at Gin Rummy or some such nonsense. ;) Android is a very capable device. I happen to prefer the UI that Windows 10 Mobile offers. I really like where Continuum is going.

    We ALL get that way at one time or another. Even when we don't like to admit we're getting that way. I'm afraid you and I have several things in common. We both are passionate about our preferred platform, we both get fed up with situations, and we're both big enough to admit when we make a mistake. We all make mistakes, we just don't all admit it. Only one man ever lived that didn't make a mistake ever, and they killed him for it. ;)

    Thanks for your participation in this thread.
    Having said that, my excitement isn't really about which platform wins or loses. I'm more selfish than that. I just want the power to accomplish at my fingertips! Continuum is incredibly on target in so many ways.
    Exactly! I could care less who wins or loses myself, as I want to be able to DO more and be productive. Continuum is awesome for this.

    Microsoft has stated, many times, that their goal is to empower every person on the planet to do more no matter what platform or device they choose. They want it to be seamless to go from PC, to phone, to laptop, tablet, HoloLens, wearable, or whatever future product may come. Use what you use, and be more productive.

    I have nothing against iPhone or Android, but there is so much more to it than just a smartphone. Microsoft gets that, and Continuum is a first step towards redefining that market to where we will one day look at a smartphone the way we look at a "payphone/phone booth" now.
    12-17-2015 04:26 PM
  19. snakebitten's Avatar
    Merry Christmas rhapdog!
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    12-17-2015 06:09 PM
  20. mtf1380's Avatar
    For what it is worth:

    The first night I was messing with the 950XL, I tried to connect to my 60-in Panasonic Plasma TV (maybe 5-yr old unit, with no usb port), that has a Push2TV 2000 (which is no longer supported by netgear) connected to it, and wham! entered the code displayed on the TV, and....CONNECTED to 950XL. COOL.

    I must also note that I did the same thing with the Surface Pro 3 when I got it, and it worked on the Pust2TV 2000, straight out of the box - then subsequently, went to intermittent for awhile, now it is at total failure (for the Surface Pro 3). hopefully this progression won't repeat itself, for the 950XL.
    12-17-2015 07:07 PM
  21. X-topher's Avatar
    No, I do not think that is the ”thing”.
    I’m not talking about the person, I am talking about Continuum vs the market standard.

    The person that did the presentation has all reasons to be proud of a well done presentation!


    What I tried to add to the conversation is that Continuum did not do anything special that could not have been done (in an even easier way) using a simple Android phone with MS Office.
    The Advantage he got from continuum is 60fps @ 1080 with no Battery drain. The opportunity to use wireless, hdmi, display port connection options to the screen, the option to connect a keyboard and a mouse either by wireless, Bluetooth or wired, the option to have his files on a usb drive which opens his storage options to 6 Tb...


    Can you do that on your Android?
    Last edited by X-topher; 12-17-2015 at 07:28 PM.
    12-17-2015 07:11 PM
  22. KickAssLumia's Avatar
    The Advantage he got from continuum is 60fps @ 1080 with no Battery drain. The opportunity to use wireless, hdmi, display port connection options to the screen, the option to connect a keyboard and a mouse either by wireless, Bluetooth or wired, the option to have his files on a usb drive which opens his storage options to 6 Tb...


    Can you do that on your Android?
    Beating a dead horse, are we?
    12-17-2015 11:42 PM
  23. Hurried Sense's Avatar
    Only one man ever lived that didn't make a mistake ever, and they killed him for it. ;)
    Sorry for hijacking this thread. But this piqued my interest. Who are you talking about? Am I missing something/someone?
    12-17-2015 11:44 PM
  24. NoelTingzon's Avatar
    This is great for student to present their reports! ive seen too much whooa on my L1520 when know i can open powerpoint like a PC, how much more in L950/950XL
    12-18-2015 02:16 AM
  25. X-topher's Avatar
    Beating a dead horse, are we?
    Yes I try do my bit to help the intellectually challenged...
    12-18-2015 06:13 AM
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