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  1. Generalheed's Avatar
    Can you not buy the phone outright and bring it to Verizon?
    Or perhaps leave Verizon like I did and they a ton more data at a cheaper rate.
    I've got three phones on my t-mobile account with 100% totally unlimited data (I stream hours of YouTube per day) for $158 after tax etc.

    I think you have to wait for the unlimited specials but now they have cheaper plans then that work the BingeOn service where streaming video on popular services doesn't count towards your data.

    Another cool thing about my unlimited plan is that each of my phones can share 7gigs per month to other devices via hot spot tethering.
    That's more data in itself than most Verizon people get in total on their plans.

    The downside is here in phoenix, AZ t-mobile doesn't work so good inside some buildings.
    Part of that may be that my two year old Nokia 1520 might not have every t-mobile band in it's radio as this was an AT&T phone.
    No, Microsoft crippled the 950's by deliberately disabling the CDMA radios as well as disabling the correct LTE bands for Verizon support. They could've easily made the 950's globally unlocked phones like pretty much every major android and iPhone. If that were the case then we could bring an unlocked 950 to Verizon. But for some reason, Microsoft went out of their way to disable all the radios that make these phones work on CDMA networks around the world. Keep in mind that physically, the 950's do support all global spectrums including Verizon's spectrums. But Microsoft put in extra effort to disable these radios via firmware, thus crippling the 950's on purpose, I suspect it was out of spite for Verizon's poor treatment of Windows Phones in the past. But the only people that suffer are those of us who are locked into Verizon business plans and can't switch carriers on a whim.
    01-07-2016 02:52 PM
  2. pakmul's Avatar
    And as for the new Lumia 950XL, I did hold off.
    My 1520 actually has a larger screen than the 950 and I got the ghost tap issues solved for the most part by adding a rigid case.

    I would like the snappy new hardware of the 950xl. There is no denying that it takes photos twice as fast as my 950. Which I think it's still a good phone. It's running the latest Win 10 build with some bugs but pretty good otherwise.
    Which rigid case did you use to solve most of your ghost tap issues on the 1520 ?
    01-07-2016 02:56 PM
  3. Brian Emmerling's Avatar
    1) Apps
    2) MS Experience is better on iOs (OneNote, Outlook, OneDrive)
    3) iOs makes it very simple to create and manage a child's phone.
    4) FindMyFriends like service is missing (again this is family oriented type stuff)

    What would make me change my mind
    1) stream xbox to phone (use case, i don't know, it would just be awesome)
    2) Apps including a findmyfriends type service*

    *Glympse or FamilyFinder is not nearly as good. They are slow and drain the battery. for security reasons, i think only the OEM's can properly develop a good location service service app like that.
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    01-07-2016 03:10 PM
  4. jfa1's Avatar
    For me it's b and d A price drop would be nice but a surface phone would be even nicer.
    01-07-2016 03:39 PM
  5. txkimmers's Avatar
    I was on fire to buy one, but I feel like the release of this phone was pretty badly done and then to have it followed up immediately with rumors of the Surface phone...I just took stock and decided it wasn't a good buy. Also, there are some things about WM 10 that are giving me pause, so I am in wait and see mode.
    01-07-2016 04:00 PM
  6. jaaks's Avatar
    I for one was wanting the 950XL. I received the email stating it was available, but when I went to the website to order, it only showed "email me when available". I have become increasingly annoyed with Microsoft's handling of this. Another thing that is bothering me is the lack of apps. We're told wait until 8, 8.1, 10 and they will be more available. This doesn't seem to be the case to me. As of now, I waiting to see Samsung's Galaxy S7 Edge Plus before I make up mind whether or not I will continue with Microsoft. I have been a Windows Mobile user since way back in the WM5 days.
    01-07-2016 04:02 PM
  7. Lord Method Man's Avatar
    I was on fire to buy one, but I feel like the release of this phone was pretty badly done and then to have it followed up immediately with rumors of the Surface phone...I just took stock and decided it wasn't a good buy. Also, there are some things about WM 10 that are giving me pause, so I am in wait and see mode.
    Sums it up well. I was all ready to get a 950XL back when they were announced. By the time the phones were actually released I had almost no interest in getting one. Coupled with the disappointing Windows 10 Mobile experience this has led me to seek solutions with other platforms.
    01-07-2016 04:22 PM
  8. sohic2000's Avatar
    I for one was wanting the 950XL. I received the email stating it was available, but when I went to the website to order, it only showed "email me when available". I have become increasingly annoyed with Microsoft's handling of this. Another thing that is bothering me is the lack of apps. We're told wait until 8, 8.1, 10 and they will be more available. This doesn't seem to be the case to me. As of now, I waiting to see Samsung's Galaxy S7 Edge Plus before I make up mind whether or not I will continue with Microsoft. I have been a Windows Mobile user since way back in the WM5 days.
    I too am annoyed by the lack of availability and haven't seen any release from Microsoft why the device has been noted as coming soon since the release date on their website. What is even more frustrating is that none of the nearby Microsoft stores has it or can say when it will be available in stores.
    01-07-2016 04:24 PM
  9. Vittorio Vaselli's Avatar
    1) Apps
    2) MS Experience is better on iOs (OneNote, Outlook, OneDrive)
    3) iOs makes it very simple to create and manage a child's phone.
    4) FindMyFriends like service is missing (again this is family oriented type stuff)

    What would make me change my mind
    1) stream xbox to phone (use case, i don't know, it would just be awesome)
    2) Apps including a findmyfriends type service*

    *Glympse or FamilyFinder is not nearly as good. They are slow and drain the battery. for security reasons, i think only the OEM's can properly develop a good location service service app like that.
    SquadWatch?
    01-07-2016 04:34 PM
  10. Norman Marshall's Avatar
    I will as soon as I have enough cash. Only reason I have not gotten one yet. 950XL ftw!
    01-07-2016 04:34 PM
  11. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Because I already bought the best smartphone on the market my sweet 64 gb 6s plus !!!!!
    01-07-2016 04:40 PM
  12. Jozef jurcisin's Avatar
    My two Lumia 810 still rocks!!!
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    01-07-2016 04:49 PM
  13. patcherd's Avatar
    My two Lumia 810 still rocks!!!
    Still using an 810? That was my first smart phone.Great phone
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    01-07-2016 04:55 PM
  14. MBytes's Avatar
    I for one was wanting the 950XL. I received the email stating it was available, but when I went to the website to order, it only showed "email me when available". I have become increasingly annoyed with Microsoft's handling of this. Another thing that is bothering me is the lack of apps. We're told wait until 8, 8.1, 10 and they will be more available. This doesn't seem to be the case to me. As of now, I waiting to see Samsung's Galaxy S7 Edge Plus before I make up mind whether or not I will continue with Microsoft. I have been a Windows Mobile user since way back in the WM5 days.
    The problem with e-mail system like this, is that:
    1- E-mail isn't instant, there is 0 guarantee that the e-mail will arrive immediately or in 1h. It isn't instant messaging.
    2- When the servers starts sending e-mails. It sends 1 at a time, or a in "small" batches. It won't send a million just like that. Meaning by the time the e-mail for you is sent, it might be out of stock. On a large forum I participate in, sending e-mails to all users takes so much time, some get it after 2 days from when it was sent. Now yes, Microsoft Store has many more servers, and more powerful one, with better internet connections. But, then again, you probably have a lot more demand.

    So, the only way is to check the page several times a day, and hope for the best.

    But I fully agree with you, it has been what, a month since it is out of stock?
    Like come on! It is like Microsoft still processing it's pre-orders, and only getting 5.

    'No one' is buying a Windows Phone. We would like to be hugely successful, but that is not the reality, AND it is a device you need tp pay in full for most people to have it. So I don't get it.
    01-07-2016 05:02 PM
  15. Tigerinc's Avatar
    1. Current 2+ year old Nokia Lumia 1520 is still running well on WP Denim.
    2. Not wanting to step that far down in screen size. Leaning toward a 950 XL honestly.
    3. Santa brought me a Surface Pro 4 which has been keeping me busy. Loving W10 Pro on this rather mobile device!
    4. Will probably pick one up for work in the coming months.
    5. Windows 10 mobile is so new that I haven't had time to learn it. Holidays are a busy time.
    6. Let's be honest, we all want one.

    01-07-2016 05:19 PM
  16. FearL0rd's Avatar
    because I didn't see all promised ported apps... I will stick with my Icon until I see big changes in the store
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    01-07-2016 05:28 PM
  17. patcherd's Avatar
    because I didn't see all promised ported apps... I will stick with my Icon until I see big changes in the store
    Like the username, so you are a believer then? It's the beginning of wisdom.
    01-07-2016 05:58 PM
  18. MemoHK's Avatar
    I don't know what people at Microsoft are smoking, but they should change the dealer. Seriously.

    I currently have a Nokia Lumia 635 and is amazing and I want to upgrade, but besides the "outdated" Nokia Lumia 925 there is nothing to upgrade to. They all are just ugly, ugly phones, design wise.

    Companies did an amazing job designing their phones 10 years ago. What happened?

    How can Microsoft have the nerve to sell this?
    microsoft-lumia-950-2.jpg

    nokia-e7-1.jpgimage_original_53503369.jpg
    That's it. I'm buying the Lumia 925. It is just too damn gorgeous! :D
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    Last edited by MemoHK; 01-07-2016 at 06:50 PM. Reason: updated
    01-07-2016 06:02 PM
  19. txkimmers's Avatar
    Sums it up well. I was all ready to get a 950XL back when they were announced. By the time the phones were actually released I had almost no interest in getting one. Coupled with the disappointing Windows 10 Mobile experience this has led me to seek solutions with other platforms.
    Yep. I actually ended up purchasing an iPhone (after buying and returning one last summer) and I am pretty happy with it, especially the app de-gap experience. But I am still a Windows phone lover and I am looking forward to seeing what Panos P does with a mobile device. I can see him now, stalking some stage in the fall of 2016, saying stuff like "You want to play games on your phone? Eh, ok here's hololens Call of Duty Super Black Ops that pops out of your phone and plays right on your eyeballs! You want to use it as a pc? No problem, wave your hands over the device and say "now you're a pc!" and ok it's a pc. Want two phones? Snap it in half, it's two phones!" , etc.

    ETA: Still miss Glance and Live Tiles though...so much!
    01-07-2016 06:21 PM
  20. MarkAllett's Avatar
    I currently have a Nokia Lumia 635 and is amazing and I want to upgrade, but besides the "outdated" Nokia Lumia 925 there is nothing to upgrade to. They all are just ugly, ugly phones, design wise. Companies did an amazing job designing their phones 10 years ago. What happened?
    It's true. The phone needs to look good even when it's switched off. It needs to be something that people want even if they can't justify it. It needs to be an object of desire. The sort of design that will turn heads and have people asking what it is.
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    01-07-2016 06:52 PM
  21. MikeLip's Avatar
    It's not on Verizon. The Amazon Kindle app doesn't work for crap. I have nearly 400 books there, so unless that gets fixed, WP is a non-starter. I'm sure the phone is awesome. I have the Icon and 715. Both great. Both sit since Kindle is broken and that's my reference library. Oh yeah, Amazon Prime music. Movies, not there. Not there. Also have some stuff on Google books, since their reader is better than Kindle. I guess for me the App Gap is real.
    01-07-2016 07:29 PM
  22. SSgt Bruskowiz's Avatar
    For me its the design ( like the design of the 830 and the 930 ), the high price and the instability. So i am putting my self on hold, for that kind of money it should be perfect and for me it ain't.
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    01-07-2016 07:55 PM
  23. CoyoteTeacher's Avatar
    I want to buy one directly from Microsoft, but they're not in stock. I don't want the AT&T model with whatever baggage that comes with it.
    01-07-2016 08:37 PM
  24. TuxedoST's Avatar
    Hah the 925 IS a gorgeous device. I still have it, and I still long for another that looks as good.

    I do not own a 950 (and won't) because in my opinion:

    It's an ugly device
    It's a "me too" product! I can get that with Android (and have)
    The UX is bad
    The UI is ugly
    WP lost all of its charm
    The app gap - Sorry, it is real for some of us
    I can get all of the MS apps I had on Android. They are actually better on Android
    They ruined it for developers
    I don't see much momentum being put into the OS/Devices by MS

    Changing the entire development structure every major version of the OS was a poorly thought out idea. Silverlight to the newer .net API, now they've changed it all again between 8.1 and 10 and you have UWP. Each time, the animations got worse, timing of animations changed, things went linear instead of a nice ease in/out, the design and layout got worse......most people don't notice these things. I happen to.

    I LOVED Windows phone, and had been a big proponent of it all the way from my HD7 to my HTC Arrive, and finally my Lumia 925. WP7 was gorgeous, fast, fluid, and actually had some stand out features, limitations of parts of the OS not withstanding. WP8 brought some sorely needed fixes, but also removed some of what was so astonishing about WP7. WP8.1 removed more and as far as I can tell with my experience in W10M, everything that made WP, WP is now gone. The only thing really left is the start screen, and even that is a shell of its former glory with poor margins, less (no?) true live tiles, and sluggish responsiveness.

    This is just a rundown of my own personal opinion, I'm sure yours will differ.
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    01-07-2016 09:38 PM
  25. xandros9's Avatar
    Companies did an amazing job designing their phones 10 years ago. What happened?
    10 years ago you say? So 2006? Hm...

    palm_treo-700l-hi_jpg.jpg

    nokia-n95-8gb-key-pad.jpg

    blackberry_pearl_8100_dfasdfh.jpg

    htc_hermes.jpg

    samsung-i607.jpg

    Absolutely stunning, aren't they? (I sometimes miss the more variety of that era, up until a couple years ago)
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    01-07-2016 10:52 PM
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