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  1. steve_w_7's Avatar
    Unless Microsoft has become very good at containing leaks, it appears that the only handsets poised to do battle with iPhone and Android this fall are in the low to mid range.

    If this becomes their strategy going forward, will you stick with the platform or will you seek your high-end gadget fix elsewhere?
    Tom Snyder likes this.
    08-13-2014 02:45 PM
  2. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    I think one high-end a year is more than enough for Microsoft to stay relevant. However, they need 5-6 low-end or mid-range hits each year in order to get those numbers. Currently, WP needs numbers for developers to find it more appealing. More the users, more devs. More devs, means more apps. More apps, more matured and appealing WP looks. More matured and appealing the platform looks, when the "high-end" or flagship or hero device is launched, more users will want to grab it!
    08-13-2014 02:53 PM
  3. tgp's Avatar
    Because the WP OS runs so well on low end hardware, does it really make much difference? Is there a big advantage to high end hardware, besides maybe the camera?
    aximtreo and k72 like this.
    08-13-2014 02:53 PM
  4. theefman's Avatar
    If all someone cares about are the specs, why wait? Leave now and stop torturing yourself.
    08-13-2014 02:54 PM
  5. Toan Le's Avatar
    Because the WP OS runs so well on low end hardware, does it really make much difference? Is there a big advantage to high end hardware, besides maybe the camera?
    Yeah, that's true. But we are techies and we know it. But what about average users? They are the majority of smartphones users and most of them don't even know how the hell Windows Phone is different from Android, and they see the bigger the specs are, the better... Just what I think, based on very many people I know.
    xconomicron, tgp and k72 like this.
    08-13-2014 03:00 PM
  6. xandros9's Avatar
    The flagships everyone is waiting for are the 930 and 1520. Well, also the ATIV SE and rumored W8, but still, MS has the rest of the Lumia lineup to refresh.
    The 720 and 820 haven't gotten a x30 refresh to their name yet.
    snowmutt likes this.
    08-13-2014 03:10 PM
  7. dby2011's Avatar
    The fact the Microsoft is involved in promoting the new HTC W8 makes me believe that the rumors that they will not have a high end device seem more legit. I will say the 730 and 830 look like great phones though.
    08-13-2014 03:11 PM
  8. DoctorSaline's Avatar
    A lot of people are upset about Mclaren getting cancelled. I know I was too. But considering the quality of these last crop of Nokia phones(just look at 930), perhaps it was better to save that gimmick for phones developed under Microsoft. I'm sure if it had released this fall, it'd have been another half baked effort from Nokia.

    Now about high end phones for 2015, SD 808/810 are slated to come with products in fall of 2015. If MS, choose to go with it, I guess we might see 925 successor before holiday break to fill the gap till that. Or they may just release flagships with SD801/805 around build and threshold announcement. Though I'd hate to see MS coming with lower processor if competition might come with more powerful SD808/810. *Fingers crossed* I guess the point of my post was that, it is not gonna happen. There will always be at least two high end flagships. One with 1020 development line and one with 1520 development line. Then there is always 930 development line.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    08-13-2014 03:23 PM
  9. Toan Le's Avatar
    The fact the Microsoft is involved in promoting the new HTC W8 makes me believe that the rumors that they will not have a high end device seem more legit. I will say the 730 and 830 look like great phones though.
    That reason should explain everything. The HTC W8 looks good, but I won't expect much from HTC, though. Just take a look at their support for Windows Phone so far, and the "death" of the HTC 8S recently. So HTC? No thanks, I will stick with Nokia, just in case I have the money lol 😜
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    08-13-2014 03:24 PM
  10. tgp's Avatar
    Yeah, that's true. But we are techies and we know it. But what about average users? They are the majority of smartphones users and most of them don't even know how the hell Windows Phone is different from Android, and they see the bigger the specs are, the better... Just what I think, based on very many people I know.
    I work in IT in a relatively small private business, and every once in a blue moon I fill in for someone on the sales floor. Customers come in and say that they saw a laptop at Walmart with a 1TB drive, 8GB RAM, and a 3.33GHz processor, for $348. We don't sell that stuff, and we certainly cannot compete on price/specs. All they see are the numbers, which are a lot more than the average PC home user will utilize anyway.

    In short, what I'm saying is that you're absolutely correct! The average user looks at the numbers.
    08-13-2014 03:33 PM
  11. typhon62_1's Avatar
    Hate to say it, but nope!
    I'm with AT&T and my 920 will be two years old in November. If AT&T doesn't have a decent 920 replacement by them I'm jumping ship. I'd be happy with the 930 but I don't think AT&T will ever pick it up.

    I'm not getting a iPhone and I can't say I'm in love with any of the Android phones presently out there.

    ​Sucks....
    08-13-2014 03:48 PM
  12. tgp's Avatar
    Hate to say it, but nope!
    I'm with AT&T and my 920 will be two years old in November. If AT&T doesn't have a decent 920 replacement by them I'm jumping ship. I'd be happy with the 930 but I don't think AT&T will ever pick it up.

    I'm not getting a iPhone and I can't say I'm in love with any of the Android phones presently out there.

    ​Sucks....
    You, sir, are in a dilemma!
    aximtreo likes this.
    08-13-2014 03:58 PM
  13. Trevor Wolfe's Avatar
    Yeah I want a Lumia 1520 on Verizon with a pen like the surface that opens up OneNote.
    rdubmu likes this.
    08-13-2014 04:07 PM
  14. dby2011's Avatar
    Hate to say it, but nope!
    I'm with AT&T and my 920 will be two years old in November. If AT&T doesn't have a decent 920 replacement by them I'm jumping ship. I'd be happy with the 930 but I don't think AT&T will ever pick it up.

    I'm not getting a iPhone and I can't say I'm in love with any of the Android phones presently out there.

    ​Sucks....
    But the speculation so far looks like the 830 which will most likely be on att could be better than your current 920.
    08-13-2014 04:08 PM
  15. Coolknight1968's Avatar
    Hmm... I have the 1320 and I am very happy with it. A updated version with simply more internal storage for my email would be enough for me. Yes, I like the size.
    08-13-2014 04:11 PM
  16. GoodThings2Life's Avatar
    I'm on AT&T, so it really depends what my options are.

    I love my 1020, functionally, but it's very slow, and I want a quad-core chip. I hope for a 1030, but I'd go for a 930 or 830- depending on specs- in the interim.

    That said, I would not leave WP for a competitor. I'd rather not have a phone at all.
    snowmutt likes this.
    08-13-2014 04:26 PM
  17. Great deal's Avatar
    Simple answers really, if your in the market for a handset that gives you the latest tech then no. If you only care about getting what you need to get done, done, then yes as long as you can on WP. However the question itself is flawed as MS are NOT going to:

    A - Exit the mobile phone market
    B - Exit the high end device sector
    b23h and snowmutt like this.
    08-13-2014 04:56 PM
  18. Maaz Mansori's Avatar
    We're still expecting the Lumia 1525, right? I don't see any signs that they are ready to exit the high-end market yet. It's normal to have more low-end and mid-range handsets and for high-end handsets to be released once a year or so. If they did exit the high-end phone market, it would give an OEM an opportunity to produce one; for example, maybe Samsung would make a Galaxy Note running WP. I don't expect high-end WP handsets to disappear altogether though Microsoft might stop making them themselves if they are satisfied with the selection of OEM handsets. So, to answer your original question, if there is no successor to the 1525 (assuming it is released) or 930, I would have to upgrade to something different next year, potentially from another manufacturer, but I'm not interested in switching to iPhone or Android. It's more important that I stay with WP.
    08-13-2014 05:12 PM
  19. steve_w_7's Avatar
    Simple answers really, if your in the market for a handset that gives you the latest tech then no. If you only care about getting what you need to get done, done, then yes as long as you can on WP. However the question itself is flawed as MS are NOT going to:

    A - Exit the mobile phone market
    B - Exit the high end device sector
    Whether or not Microsoft would exit the mobile phone market was never speculated upon. It does, though, appear that Microsoft will concede the high end market to iPhone and Android (Samsung) for 4Q 2014.
    08-13-2014 05:20 PM
  20. Great deal's Avatar
    Whether or not Microsoft would exit the mobile phone market was never speculated upon. It does, though, appear that Microsoft will concede the high end market to iPhone and Android (Samsung) for 4Q 2014.
    That's obvious given whats happening. The HTC is a top end phone coming to Windows though, good to see other OEM's start to transition.
    08-13-2014 06:31 PM
  21. bryanibuan's Avatar
    Because the WP OS runs so well on low end hardware, does it really make much difference? Is there a big advantage to high end hardware, besides maybe the camera?
    I own a 520 and a 920, I can say that there is indeed a difference. Both in the quality of hardware, and performance (software side). 920 has spoiled me that web browsing and opening third-party apps have been painful when I use 520.
    James8561 likes this.
    08-13-2014 06:41 PM
  22. Svoboda's Avatar
    Hate to say it, but nope!
    I'm with AT&T and my 920 will be two years old in November. If AT&T doesn't have a decent 920 replacement by them I'm jumping ship. I'd be happy with the 930 but I don't think AT&T will ever pick it up.

    I'm not getting a iPhone and I can't say I'm in love with any of the Android phones presently out there.

    ​Sucks....
    I am in the same boat and I'm a resounding no. I'm probably the last guy Microsoft wants abandoning their platform considering I have 2x 920s, 1x 1020 (wife), 5 Windows 8 PCs/tablets and 2 XBox Ones in my house. I adopted the ecosystem soup to nuts. My contract also expires with AT&T in November and as it stands now, I have no options as jumping to Verizon isn't an issue with my work service discount.

    My local AT&T store only has the 925, 1020 and the 1520 available and I don't want a large phone. My 920 has been the first phone I've had that has also held up the entire two years as the build quality was fantastic.
    Laura Knotek and Great deal like this.
    08-13-2014 07:14 PM
  23. osallent's Avatar
    Considering how happy I am with my Lumia 635, and how much I'm looking forward to the Lumia 730, the answer is yes...I will stay. I've been buying low end and mid-range smart phones for a while now, and the experience with low end and mid-range WP has been great for me. I only have around 60 apps, and only watch movies on my phone occasionally, so I personally don't need the latest and greatest. If I want to watch a movie in the best resolution, or want to spend a prolonged time consuming media content, I have a Surface Pro 2 tablet and a High Def 65 inch screen TV with a computer hooked up to it. Both devices are far better for media consumption and movie watching than any smartphone will ever be.
    k72 likes this.
    08-13-2014 08:02 PM
  24. Blu3V3nom07's Avatar
    I'll give it another year and a half or more, it just depends.So, I'll stay. I would rather get WP9 than any other platform.
    snowmutt likes this.
    08-14-2014 12:23 AM
  25. Torcher Death's Avatar
    As a L520 owner, I don't think it directly affects me, though indirect repercussions of such an action, such as losing market share would mean lesser apps & stuff, so I guess I'd have to move on, unless of course the low end segment is able to compensate for that.
    08-14-2014 12:32 AM
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