1. bucfan11's Avatar
    I've been wanting one for a while but with all the issues reported I have been waiting. My Dell laptop now sleeps and wakes with no problem so I am assuming an update has corrected that issue. Is the SP4 now ready?
    01-02-2016 03:29 PM
  2. Marcelo Siciliano's Avatar
    Im asking myself the same question. If I decide to buy, I'm buying it January 15. I'm thinking on the i5 256Gb model
    01-02-2016 03:57 PM
  3. D3xt3rSM's Avatar
    Most of the issues have been fixed. Sleep seems to be fixed, the video driver issue is fixed...
    I still have some very rare random disconnects of the keyboard or pen ( in one month had one disconect ). Not a big deal.
    The keyboard, if it loses connection can be quickly fixed just by taking it off and back on again. The pen needs to be reconected via BT
    01-03-2016 03:20 AM
  4. thatdennis's Avatar
    Wondering the same thing too, will buy in a week or two.

    Most of the issues have been fixed. Sleep seems to be fixed, the video driver issue is fixed...
    I still have some very rare random disconnects of the keyboard or pen ( in one month had one disconect ). Not a big deal.
    The keyboard, if it loses connection can be quickly fixed just by taking it off and back on again. The pen needs to be reconected via BT
    For the pen losing BT connection, can you write on the surface despite the pen losing connection? It's crucial for note taking for me.

    How has the sleep issue been fixed, did you use any special power plans?
    01-03-2016 06:16 AM
  5. PaddiWaddi's Avatar
    Wondering the same thing too, will buy in a week or two.



    For the pen losing BT connection, can you write on the surface despite the pen losing connection? It's crucial for note taking for me.

    How has the sleep issue been fixed, did you use any special power plans?
    Yes you can! Only the clicking functionality requires bluetooth. Writing and erasing works without.
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    01-03-2016 06:14 PM
  6. jcomey's Avatar
    I never had the issues others have reported. The only issue I have had is with the WiFi needing to reset when I come out of hibernate. But, other than that, nothing. I'd go ahead.
    01-03-2016 07:10 PM
  7. mc511's Avatar
    I have been using it for about a week and havent really experienced any issues. Maybe the touch pad wasnt working but that was fixed by reconnecting the keyboard. I am using it as my main computer while my desktop is getting repaired. I also have it connected to a 1080p monitor with zero issues. Occasionally the fan will kick in when I am playing a flash video full screen but nothing too major. I have the i5 256gig with 8gig of ram.
    01-03-2016 08:45 PM
  8. TheAsbo's Avatar
    I've been waiting too. The Surface 2 was so so buggy. Really upsetting. I don't want a seriously buggy device. I'm okay with putting my device on hibernate. Connected Standby would have been nice though. :(
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    01-04-2016 01:05 AM
  9. ajay singh supahiya's Avatar
    I am surprised no one is talking about battery issue. I have i7 256 gig and I am getting 3-4 hrs max when I'm doing graphic intensive work. Other than battery life I don't have any other issue. This little beast works perfectly when it comes to performance and stylus.
    01-06-2016 07:37 AM
  10. Marcelo Siciliano's Avatar
    I am surprised no one is talking about battery issue. I have i7 256 gig and I am getting 3-4 hrs max when I'm doing graphic intensive work. Other than battery life I don't have any other issue. This little beast works perfectly when it comes to performance and stylus.
    But you are doing intensive graphic work on tablet/notebook with a i7. What did you expected?
    01-06-2016 12:06 PM
  11. ajay singh supahiya's Avatar
    I was expecting at least 6 hours in return of 9 hours advertised by Microsoft. Even if I am just browsing it is giving hardly 5 hours max which is really low. There is this whole thread of poor battery life where ppl are having same experience. I hope next update will add at least something in battery life.
    Closingracer likes this.
    01-06-2016 02:28 PM
  12. krabby's Avatar
    It's unfortunate that they advertised a best case scenario battery life for this device, business as usual but unfortunate. I get between 3 and 4 hours but use a lot of battery unfriendly settings and flog the bejesus out of it.

    I haven't had any problems with mine which I purchased just after the big update at the start of December. No regrets on buying in and I'm happy with my purchase.
    01-07-2016 08:15 AM
  13. Athavan's Avatar
    I'm having the same issue with my SP4 i7 16gb 512gb. I only get 2 to 3.5hrs. It's a huge downside of this. I was hoping at least 5 to 6 hrs. I am thinking of returning the i7 back and getting an SP4 i5 16gb 512gb. Anyone else have better battery on the i5 while using Photoshop and graphic work?
    01-07-2016 09:27 AM
  14. bradleyj's Avatar
    I just re-bought the SP4 and it was probably a mistake. I knew the sleep issues aren't fixed so I always shut it down completely. However, it still has issues. Display driver still crashes. I notice flickering at low-brightness. In a meeting today the camera wouldn't work (just a black screen) and when I restarted the tablet to fix it the surface restarted and froze on a bright white screen. And finally worst of all, I just experienced it refusing to turn on (non-responsive to the power button for several minutes, eventually it responds for some unknown reason). This is my 4th Surface Pro 4 and I am so disappointed. Why can't they make these things work properly??? I obviously love the device (I tried 4 times!) but I strongly suggest DON'T BUY!
    01-09-2016 07:00 PM
  15. ajay singh supahiya's Avatar
    I don't think u will gain a significant battery gain with i5 over i7. Basically the problem is with bad cpu utilization coding. Even i5 users are facing same problem. Best would be to wait for the next update as promised by Microsoft. Or I am sure they will release some power case later just like they did for surface 2 that will Add some more juice in device.
    01-09-2016 11:58 PM
  16. zkyevolved's Avatar
    I don't think u will gain a significant battery gain with i5 over i7. Basically the problem is with bad cpu utilization coding. Even i5 users are facing same problem. Best would be to wait for the next update as promised by Microsoft. Or I am sure they will release some power case later just like they did for surface 2 that will Add some more juice in device.
    i7 does have worse battery life because it's a CPU Clocked at higher speeds over the i5, and it has the same battery.

    I'm fairly certain that the problem is coding, because when I limit my CPU to 50% (more than enough for 80% of my days) I get 6-8 hours of actual usage. Right now I'm at 1 hour and 30 min usage, with 75% left. So 3 hours for 50% and 6 hours for 100%. I did put it in hibernate about 4 times, so basically, I've restarted it numerous times. That adds battery usage without actually counting it.... I'm sure if you lowered it to the suggest 35% CPU max I'm sure you could get even more! It really depends on the applications you want to use.

    I really like the SP4. I'm not having any serious issues, thankfully. Hopefully MS can work on the drivers and optimization to keep the CPU from jumping up and keeping it there. That's a real problem.

    This is my 4th SP4 as well, but none of them had any issues. They were all returned due to warranty issues! The first 2 because they wouldn't let me get complete, the last one they did BUT a week after I decided I needed the next version up, i5 8gb with 256 rather than my 4 128. I use my surface EVERY day all day! I hardly ever touched my SP2 at home (heavy, screen was small, trackpad was a furry beast). Now I'm happy! I hibernate my device most of the time, and I limit my CPU and I get excellent battery life... No complaints here.
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    01-10-2016 02:32 AM
  17. Davidz's Avatar
    zkyevolved, I agree with everything you said, except I wouldn't use the "Time Remaining" shown on the SP4 as reliable indicator of your remaining battery life. I've seen it fluctuate by as much as 3 or 4 hours in the blink of an eye. It's helpful, in that, it gives you a rough sense of how much time you have left, but it's not an accurate, reliable gauge.
    01-10-2016 06:51 AM
  18. zkyevolved's Avatar
    zkyevolved, I agree with everything you said, except I wouldn't use the "Time Remaining" shown on the SP4 as reliable indicator of your remaining battery life. I've seen it fluctuate by as much as 3 or 4 hours in the blink of an eye. It's helpful, in that, it gives you a rough sense of how much time you have left, but it's not an accurate, reliable gauge.
    Oh, I don't. That's very unreliable. I use BatteryBar Pro, and even then, I use only the timer that shows the time it's been ON since last restart or last plug in... Sometimes the Windows indicator says 2 hours and then 4 minutes later it says 11 hours! LOL! So, I only look at the %left, not the time left.
    01-10-2016 11:43 AM
  19. Closingracer's Avatar
    It's unfortunate that they advertised a best case scenario battery life for this device, business as usual but unfortunate. I get between 3 and 4 hours but use a lot of battery unfriendly settings and flog the bejesus out of it.

    I haven't had any problems with mine which I purchased just after the big update at the start of December. No regrets on buying in and I'm happy with my purchase.


    Yeah but Apple manages to advertise numbers that are lower then what you actually get....I've read plenty of reviews stating the 13 inch Macbook Pro with retina display lasting 15 hours and they advertising only 9 hours
    01-10-2016 05:07 PM
  20. Saad1990's Avatar
    Yes, you may proceed! That's an awesome tablet featuring good at low cost... :)
    01-13-2016 06:17 AM
  21. Steveborough's Avatar
    This is my 4th SP4 as well, but none of them had any issues. ...I hibernate my device most of the time, and I limit my CPU and I get excellent battery life... No complaints here.
    This is the part that bothers me. I will not settle for a device where this is necessary to make it function closer (no where near) to advertised. I commend you for being so forgiving but $2K for me should provide peace of mind not perfecting my underclocking/troubleshooting skills.
    01-13-2016 09:47 PM
  22. zkyevolved's Avatar
    This is the part that bothers me. I will not settle for a device where this is necessary to make it function closer (no where near) to advertised. I commend you for being so forgiving but $2K for me should provide peace of mind not perfecting my underclocking/troubleshooting skills.
    I understand, but, there is literally 0 competition for this form factor with size, weight and functionality. So really, there is nothing better than a SP4 or that out performs a SP4 in this area... YOU CAN get an Ultrabook that also has a pen and touch screen (HP Spectre and Dell Inspiron 7000 series). Both weigh more, batteries last the same on the dell and maybe an hour or 2 more on the Spectre, but then you're losing the ability to detach your keyboard and use it only as a tablet. You could move to a standard ultrabook with a 1080p display and no touch screen or pen, those usually get better battery life, but I wouldn't say you'd get double or anything like that! Lenovo has a yoga series with a core M which gets VERY good battery life, but once again, no pen, and for me the pen is a BIG plus! Or just a plain old laptop! Those get GREAT battery life. My brother's core i5 from Dell, which cost him 700 euros, lasts around 10-12 hours of battery life, but it weighs A TON and it's SUPER chunky!

    That's the thing: I'm VERY happy with my device because it's super thin, under 800 GRAMS (yes, 800 grams! That's NOTHING) and lasts me a good 6-9 hours, which is fantastic for the size and weight -- taking into account the processing power of this bad boy! You won't find ANYTHING else on the market with this computing power, form factor, size and weight... Even the new device Samsung released are, again, Core M, so are limited in processing power.

    I'm not saying the SP4 is perfect, it has issues, but I don't have any physical defects, software works well for me except for the usual bugs here and there (let's be honest, EVERY device has issues, even every generation of iPhone launch has had big issues like battery life, security bugs or screen calibration etc.)

    I feel for the tech, cash and product, I'm well served for the money. I paid 1,525 euros for a i5/256/8gb sp4, 3 years of extended warranty and the keyboard. I pay more or less the same from year to year changing phones :P (I mean over the course of 3 years, as I have the warranty for this device for 3 years)... And a PC will last a lot longer than 3 years, as long as I don't break it of course.
    Grimmric likes this.
    01-14-2016 12:53 AM
  23. WildKarrde's Avatar
    I bought one the first week of release, haven't had any issues with mine.
    01-21-2016 02:22 PM

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