08-27-2018 03:30 AM
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  1. Misterb's Avatar
    I came from an Android tablet, and it allowed me to install Swiftkey as my onscreen keyboard. The combination of the split keyboard allowing thumb typing, along with auto correct and suggested words, really meant that I could crank away with typing. Yes, I have a nice external SP4 keyboard, but that isn't always convenient to use if you're sitting on a couch or laying down. The onscreen keyboard included in Windows 10 is an absolute joke. First off, they don't give us a usable browser, so we have to install Chrome. Once you do that, it no longer suggests words. Even still, it just isn't very good or smart at providing a quick and efficient way of typing. I mean, come on. If I come to the end of a sentence, I should be able to hit space bar twice, which would insert a period, add two spaces, and capitalize the first letter. But, no. I have to enter all those key strokes separately, which really adds up to a slower experience.

    The entire thing is just aggravating, because it seems to me that all it would take is for Microsoft to allow Swiftkey and others to simply provide a keyboard, instead of behaving as Apple did for years with their lousy keyboard.

    Are there any hacks or other ways to make this work in the meantime?
    12-01-2015 01:21 PM
  2. MobileVortex's Avatar
    Hmmmm All of that works in Firefox, IDK about chrome, because I will never use it lol. At least the suggested words, not sure about the hit space twice to enter a period, but I thought it did...

    Also, you can switch your keyboard view to have a split keyboard. Personally I use the one that looks like a normal keyboard (shows the number keys above the top row) undocked so i can move it around based on where I'm typing at on the screen.
    12-01-2015 02:13 PM
  3. Misterb's Avatar
    Hmmmm All of that works in Firefox, IDK about chrome, because I will never use it lol. At least the suggested words, not sure about the hit space twice to enter a period, but I thought it did...

    Also, you can switch your keyboard view to have a split keyboard. Personally I use the one that looks like a normal keyboard (shows the number keys above the top row) undocked so i can move it around based on where I'm typing at on the screen.
    I didn't mean to suggest it doesn't have the split keyboard. it does, and I have been using it that way. The rest leaves a lot to be desired. Way too many errors and extra strokes. They just need to allow Swiftkey, and be done with it. Typing this last paragraph on the SP4 took forever, and makes me want to gouge my eye balls out
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    12-01-2015 05:47 PM
  4. sooby77's Avatar
    I could not agree more. Windows 10 keyboard implementation is just abysmal. Do Microsoft prohibit 3rd party keyboards like what iOS used to do?
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    12-01-2015 09:09 PM
  5. Misterb's Avatar
    I could not agree more. Windows 10 keyboard implementation is just abysmal. Do Microsoft prohibit 3rd party keyboards like what iOS used to do?
    Sure looks like it. Go to the microsoft app store, and type keyboard. Nothing
    Nikolay Pavlov likes this.
    12-01-2015 09:27 PM
  6. Chris_Kez's Avatar
    What's sad is that Microsoft already has the solution- their own WordFlow keyboard with predictive input, currently in use on Windows Phone.
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    12-01-2015 09:55 PM
  7. ryankelsey7's Avatar
    I disagree because i hate all keyboards on Android. I always use the split keyboard and it always works for me. Occasionally I might use word suggestions but I don't like autocorrect. But honestly I don't really type anything that would be painful to type on a touch screen on a touch screen.
    12-01-2015 09:57 PM
  8. Misterb's Avatar
    I disagree because i hate all keyboards on Android. I always use the split keyboard and it always works for me. Occasionally I might use word suggestions but I don't like autocorrect. But honestly I don't really type anything that would be painful to type on a touch screen on a touch screen.
    That's just it, Swiftkey makes typing on a touch screen painless, unlike what I'm experiencing at the moment.

    To give you an idea, I will type the above sentence just as it comes out without correcting it:

    thats jusr kr swift,ej makes tyoimg in a tiuvh screen oaunless , unlike what um eclerkemfkmg at tne miment

    Good lord. What a joke!
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    12-02-2015 12:21 AM
  9. Misterb's Avatar
    What's sad is that Microsoft already has the solution- their own WordFlow keyboard with predictive input, currently in use on Windows Phone.
    That IS sad
    12-02-2015 12:21 AM
  10. onysi's Avatar
    I suggested this awhile back when surface 1 came out.
    ttsoldier and Laura Knotek like this.
    12-02-2015 03:44 AM
  11. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    What's sad is that Microsoft already has the solution- their own WordFlow keyboard with predictive input, currently in use on Windows Phone.
    Microsoft needs to add WordFlow to Windows tablets. My 7" WinBook tablet is in a drawer, since I can't type on it. I'm using a Nexus 7 tablet with SwiftKey, since I can type on it. I'd definitely use the WinBook tablet if it had WordFlow like Windows Phone/Windows 10 Mobile.
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    12-02-2015 03:57 AM
  12. slysy's Avatar
    I know this probably isn't for most people, but using the pen in place of the on-screen keyboard works pretty well. I agree that the stock keyboard is terrible :(
    12-02-2015 06:12 AM
  13. TheCudder's Avatar
    There are already requests for this in both the Windows 10 Feedback app and & UserVoice, but it seems to have been ignored thus far. I made a WC thread and concept for it back in March, http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...blet-mode.html

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    12-02-2015 09:18 AM
  14. sooby77's Avatar
    The worst thing about all of this is that if I have the keyboard detached, it automatically shows the handwriting recognition panel instead of a keyboard. I'd rather peck with my pen. But there doesn't seem to be a way to set to just show keyboard regardless. It's so incredibly annoying.
    12-02-2015 03:18 PM
  15. TheCudder's Avatar
    The worst thing about all of this is that if I have the keyboard detached, it automatically shows the handwriting recognition panel instead of a keyboard. I'd rather peck with my pen. But there doesn't seem to be a way to set to just show keyboard regardless. It's so incredibly annoying.
    That shouldn't be happening. You may want to look into what's causing that.
    12-02-2015 04:31 PM
  16. Dush Ku's Avatar
    They already had motion keyboard functionality in Windows Phone 8.1. Are they not automatically including that in Windows 10 mobile? I really wish they would bring that ability over to the Windows 10 on screen keyboard.
    I go from my Windows Phone and swiping around the letters to needing to type stuff on my Surface.
    12-02-2015 07:44 PM
  17. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Word flow would be great for the surface range. I find using word flow easier than typing and it's still better than typing on a laptop with full keyboard
    12-03-2015 05:42 AM
  18. sooby77's Avatar
    That shouldn't be happening. You may want to look into what's causing that.
    I did. I set it to default to keyboard and it's still doing it. Not sure if it's my device or something else I'm doing wrong.
    12-03-2015 08:48 AM
  19. Misterb's Avatar
    Bump. Microsoft, are you listening? This device is still very painful to type on.
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    03-17-2016 10:29 PM
  20. ramontomzer's Avatar
    Microsoft now owns SwiftKey... I think something is in the works... As to when it comes out... Surface pro 5 time is my guess... But keep in mind, that's just my guess
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    03-17-2016 10:36 PM
  21. HES's Avatar
    I agree. The keyboard sucks and Swiftkey need to be allowed to play in the Win 10 environment. However I'll take it a step further and say that MS needs to allow 3rd party keyboards. We use our SPs for doing architectural drawing in the field. It sure would be nice to have a dedicated 10 key that I could use that has all of the numbers, plus - and / and " and ' instead of having to flip back and forth. If 3rd party keyboards were allowed I could at least have one like that developed so we can use it.
    03-18-2016 09:21 PM
  22. HES's Avatar
    I did. I set it to default to keyboard and it's still doing it. Not sure if it's my device or something else I'm doing wrong.
    Where did you try to set it? I am experiencing the same problem and for the life of me can't figure out where the settings live.
    03-18-2016 09:22 PM
  23. ttsoldier's Avatar
    Bump. Microsoft, are you listening? This device is still very painful to type on.
    I share your pain.

    i love my surface pro 4 but i HATE typing on it without the keyboard. It takes forever to type...

    All the need to do is implement word flow on the surface pro 4.... i dont know why it's that hard...

    I feel like crying everytime i want to type without the keyboard.
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    03-23-2016 08:05 AM
  24. Nikolay Pavlov's Avatar
    Double tap for period. Space after period. New sentence to start in caps. Autocorrect. Come on... 20 f. 18...
    08-27-2018 03:23 AM
  25. Nikolay Pavlov's Avatar
    Bump. Microsoft, are you listening? This device is still very painful to type on.
    MS listening. Ha-ha-ha.
    08-27-2018 03:28 AM
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