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  1. Mech0z's Avatar
    I still wished that Nokia should've included an additional camera processor (similar to the HTC 8X) for the 1020 if that might have helped with the overall camera performance (the HTC 8X has a ridiculously fast camera which does take nice photos) but again I'm not from Nokia neither do i know if Nokia already tested that option
    That requires the OS to support that, if WP8.1 do not support an extra cpu to only take care of the photos then you cant just put it in, so they need to get that feature incorporated together with Microsoft
    04-20-2014 06:07 AM
  2. pankaj981's Avatar
    That requires the OS to support that, if WP8.1 do not support an extra cpu to only take care of the photos then you cant just put it in, so they need to get that feature incorporated together with Microsoft
    The HTC 8X has it so yes the OS supports it
    04-20-2014 08:30 AM
  3. TLRtheory's Avatar
    Whole lotta nothing... which is sad because there's a whole lot of opportunities they missed with the 1020.

    I'd LOVE to see a Lumia 1025 with the following changes:
    • 2000mAh battery bumped up to 2420mAh
    • 1280x768 AMOLED ditched for a more accurate, less power-hungry 1920x1080 IPSLCD display
    • Ditch the dual-core Snapdragon S4 for a quad-core 801 (or 805)
    • Center the lens in the camera island, integrate a ring adapter so it could accept filters/lenses and be a true rival to DSLRs
    • Update to Bluetooth 4.0
    • Mandatory 64GB internal+expansion slot (the fact that they gave us such a high quality camera without expansion in the first place is absolutely senseless)
    • More squarish chassis (if you've snapped pics on a Lumia Icon you already know that the squarish design works wonders for grip)
    • Even out the bezel so the freaking screen centers in landscape! Fat bottom lips in these Lumias drive me insane.

    About the only thing I'd like to see kept is the 4.5in screen... combined with a 1080p panel, that would be killer pixel density.
    Last edited by TLRtheory; 04-20-2014 at 10:27 AM.
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    04-20-2014 10:05 AM
  4. vlad0's Avatar
    A removable battery is essential for a device like this..

    Its very likely that it won't have the Nokia logo on it.. whenever it comes out

    Nokia’s handset division to be renamed Microsoft Mobile Oy | WMPoweruser
    04-20-2014 11:53 AM
  5. hiko36's Avatar
    The hardware is there for Bluetooth 4.0. We're waiting on a firmware update from Nokia, last I heard.
    04-20-2014 06:20 PM
  6. alllies's Avatar
    The hardware is there for Bluetooth 4.0. We're waiting on a firmware update from Nokia, last I heard.
    Isn't Bluetooth 4.0 activated with Black firmware?
    04-20-2014 06:52 PM
  7. ssjmec's Avatar
    I secretly hope that they wait until 2015 before introducing a successor....because if they do anytime now, I think I would be force to upgrade already, again. Lol

    Kidding aside, upgraded processor, battery, and 1080P screen is enough for me (hardware)
    04-20-2014 10:40 PM
  8. hiko36's Avatar
    Isn't Bluetooth 4.0 activated with Black firmware?
    You're right.
    04-21-2014 01:14 AM
  9. Draganta's Avatar
    I still wished that Nokia should've included an additional camera processor (similar to the HTC 8X) for the 1020 if that might have helped with the overall camera performance (the HTC 8X has a ridiculously fast camera which does take nice photos) but again I'm not from Nokia neither do i know if Nokia already tested that option
    I have a 8X and trust me, the camera isn't that good. The camera of my 925 is way better, especially when shooting sunsets and night pictures. I think it was too sensitive to light. I even compared some sunset pictures to pictures taken with a Galaxy S2, and the Galaxy pictures were better too (the bright light is too bright because of 8X's sensitivity). I might still have both of those pictures, so if you are interested, let me know, and I will post them.
    04-21-2014 01:24 AM
  10. pankaj981's Avatar
    I have a 8X and trust me, the camera isn't that good. The camera of my 925 is way better, especially when shooting sunsets and night pictures. I think it was too sensitive to light. I even compared some sunset pictures to pictures taken with a Galaxy S2, and the Galaxy pictures were better too (the bright light is too bright because of 8X's sensitivity). I might still have both of those pictures, so if you are interested, let me know, and I will post them.
    Well the co processor in the 8X is not there for shooting better quality pictures only but to shoot them faster by increasing the overall speed. Now the only issue with the 1020 is picture processing speed hence having that extra co processor might have helped
    04-21-2014 08:11 AM
  11. vlad0's Avatar
    If these are real, they seem better than the 1020 .. but I would wait for a proper test before passing further judgment

    [Comparison] OnePlus One camera against Find 5 and a DSLR! - OnePlus Forums

    [Photomania] OnePlus One Camera Photos In Their Full Resolution Glory - OnePlus Forums
    04-23-2014 03:04 AM
  12. buxz777's Avatar
    If these are real, they seem better than the 1020 .. but I would wait for a proper test before passing further judgment

    [Comparison] OnePlus One camera against Find 5 and a DSLR! - OnePlus Forums

    [Photomania] OnePlus One Camera Photos In Their Full Resolution Glory - OnePlus Forums
    gsm arena covered that earlier in the week vlad mate , does the dslr have exif data? from the comments section on the gsm arena page it seemed like exif data was missing from them shots? id be very very surprised if such a small sensor that has been used by others can produce results better then the 1020 in perfect sunlight let alone night time and low light shots ;-)
    04-23-2014 04:09 AM
  13. DalekSnare's Avatar
    I'd love to get a 1030. I skipped the 1020 because 768p is not high enough of a resolution to hide PenTile's checkerboard effect from my eyes, so the screen looks terrible to me. I waited with a 900 for the 1020 to come out and then ended up just getting a 920 after all. This generation the high ends ones are 1080p so I'm not worried about that happening again. I just hope they don't skimp on the screen like they did with the 930/Icon, so Glance will work. And Qi, even if it's a cover like the 1020, would be good. I just want an upgrade that doesn't feel like a downgrade half the time.
    04-23-2014 08:51 PM
  14. vlad0's Avatar
    gsm arena covered that earlier in the week vlad mate , does the dslr have exif data? from the comments section on the gsm arena page it seemed like exif data was missing from them shots? id be very very surprised if such a small sensor that has been used by others can produce results better then the 1020 in perfect sunlight let alone night time and low light shots ;-)
    I checked all of them.. no EXIF data.. no iso, no fstop, no model name.. nothing. I am also very surprised by the IQ on this.. if that Sony sensor can produce such detail and low noise at that size then.. I don't even know why Sony bother using 1" sensors in their mirrorless cameras.

    They can just use photos from another device and say otherwise, could they ? That's just silly
    04-23-2014 10:41 PM
  15. buxz777's Avatar
    I checked all of them.. no EXIF data.. no iso, no fstop, no model name.. nothing. I am also very surprised by the IQ on this.. if that Sony sensor can produce such detail and low noise at that size then.. I don't even know why Sony bother using 1" sensors in their mirrorless cameras.

    They can just use photos from another device and say otherwise, could they ? That's just silly
    I think a few have been caught doing it vlad even nokia with the 920 low light shots and ois videos ...... it would be great too see some more really good camera phones hit the market and push nokia further but I just cant see it from this little sensor that is also on the oppo 7 , surely they haven't got that good at software to make this little lens perform so so good?

    from the test shots though it certainly does look like it is doing a great job in the right light , it still doesn't have oversampling , rich recording , ois , xenon flash etc so no way will it be as versatile as phones like the 808 and 1020 even if the day time shots really are that good ;-)
    04-24-2014 03:55 AM
  16. TaichiSurface's Avatar
    wow, One Plus One looks amazing, I wonder how it stacks up against the 1020 though
    05-01-2014 10:37 PM
  17. RTGent's Avatar
    If these are real, they seem better than the 1020 .. but I would wait for a proper test before passing further judgment
    Even with a great sucker photopunch, if it's android, it's dead-before-arrival for me, and won't even get on the ring with the 1020. And a company that starts out with a competition for people who will smash their phones, even if it has technique and attitude, has no TASTE.
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    05-02-2014 12:30 PM
  18. buxz777's Avatar
    Even with a great sucker photopunch, if it's android, it's dead-before-arrival for me, and won't even get on the ring with the 1020. And a company that starts out with a competition for people who will smash their phones, even if it has technique and attitude, has no TASTE.
    yep they could of asked for people to post who would be willing to donate their high end smartphone to someone in a third world country ........ then chose people out of a hat raffle style ....... imagine the press that would have got them and much better to the world then getting people to smash up high end tech :-/
    05-02-2014 01:22 PM
  19. LogicalKoopa's Avatar
    The 1020 is the successor to the 808 that was released I believe in 2009 or 2010. I would expect 2015 at the earliest.
    Try 2012
    05-02-2014 04:22 PM
  20. Mech0z's Avatar
    So Nokia 808 released july 2012
    Lumia 1020 around septemper 2013

    So around 1 year and 3 month between those, and those where on 2 different OS', so should be easier this time around

    The Lumia 1020 was announced in July 2013, so if we are lucky we might see one around christmas time
    05-10-2014 10:50 AM
  21. sumton's Avatar
    successor? at this time i don't think so its only 10 months old
    05-11-2014 07:38 AM
  22. Beijendorf's Avatar
    Evleaks mentioned a 1020 successor was in the works back in November 2013.
    https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/401101953200963585
    Add to that the rumour from Daniel Rubino about a dual-lens smartphone from Nokia being aimed at Q4 2014 or Q1 2015.
    Sorry, there is no Nokia 'Lumia 1820' | Windows Phone Central
    Finally, there's mentions from Pelican Imaging that their technology will be in a smartphone by 2014, where Nokia is their main partner.
    Apple Reportedly Set To Buy 3D Sensing Company As It Prepares For New Generation of Devices That Can 'See' - Forbes

    So there's a few theories as to what a dual-lens/dual-sensor imaging flagship from Nokia would mean:
    1) Combine a Pelican array camera with a 20-40 MP camera and you have high-resolution images, depth mapping and no more need for autofocus along with all the other advantages of computational photography.

    2) Go the Toshiba way by combining two sensors into a super-resolution image (2 x 5 MP sensors rendering 13 MP images). Combining two 41 MP sensors would render some 100 MP images with computational improvements to give better low-light performance, less noise, etc.
    Two 1/4 inch 5M pixel 1.4 µm CMOS image sensors: TCM9518MD | Sensors | TOSHIBA Semiconductor & Storage Products Company

    3) Do what Corephotonics have done and combine two lenses of different focal lengths (Corephotonics has one "wide-angle" lens and one with a permanent 3x zoom). This way you have optical zoom without a thick zoom-lens. The images here are also cross-referenced with each other for reduced noise, increased low-light performance and increased resolution.
    Corephotonics | Technologies

    Edit: Come to think of it, they could always have a Pelican Imaging array camera as a "wide-angle" sensor to capture everything in focus with low noise and great low-light performance, and then add on a 20 MP sensor next to it with a 5X focal zoom like Corephotonics to get that true lossless zoom.

    Which one would you rather see in a 1030?
    Last edited by Beijendorf; 05-11-2014 at 07:40 PM.
    05-11-2014 06:32 PM
  23. DennisvdG's Avatar
    Evleaks mentioned a 1020 successor was in the works back in November 2013.
    https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/401101953200963585
    Add to that the rumour from Daniel Rubino about a dual-lens smartphone from Nokia being aimed at Q4 2014 or Q1 2015.
    Sorry, there is no Nokia 'Lumia 1820' | Windows Phone Central
    Finally, there's mentions from Pelican Imaging that their technology will be in a smartphone by 2014, where Nokia is their main partner.
    Apple Reportedly Set To Buy 3D Sensing Company As It Prepares For New Generation of Devices That Can 'See' - Forbes

    So there's a few theories as to what a dual-lens/dual-sensor imaging flagship from Nokia would mean:
    1) Combine a Pelican array camera with a 20-40 MP camera and you have high-resolution images, depth mapping and no more need for autofocus along with all the other advantages of computational photography.

    2) Go the Toshiba way by combining two sensors into a super-resolution image (2 x 5 MP sensors rendering 13 MP images). Combining two 41 MP sensors would render some 100 MP images with computational improvements to render better low-light performance, less noise, etc.
    Two 1/4 inch 5M pixel 1.4 µm CMOS image sensors: TCM9518MD | Sensors | TOSHIBA Semiconductor & Storage Products Company

    3) Do what Corephotonics have done and combine two lenses of different focal lengths (Corephotonics has one lens as "wide-angle and one with a constant 3x zoom). This way you have optical zoom without a thick zoom-lens. The images here are also cross-referenced with each other for reduced noise, increased low-light visibility and increased resolution.
    Corephotonics | Technologies

    Which one would you rather see in a 1030?
    05-11-2014 06:51 PM
  24. DennisvdG's Avatar
    successor? at this time i don't think so its only 10 months old
    That's actually pretty old for a smartphone these days.
    05-11-2014 06:52 PM
  25. Marlon Bu's Avatar
    That's actually pretty old for a smartphone these days.
    But not for a "special-phone" like the 1020.
    05-12-2014 01:42 AM
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