1. peacefulberry's Avatar
    I'm interested to know if there's anyway to flash Windows 8 RT on a Windows Phone...particularly the 1520?
    05-19-2014 01:59 PM
  2. Will6371's Avatar
    Short answer is no.
    xandros9 likes this.
    05-19-2014 02:03 PM
  3. GabrielStorm's Avatar
    Short answer is no.
    little longer answer RT Win 8 RT is a different platform
    Last edited by GabrielStorm; 05-19-2014 at 05:00 PM.
    05-19-2014 04:41 PM
  4. pdelvo's Avatar
    Windows Phone 8 does use the same kernel as windows rt. but flashing rt on a wp device is not possible
    GabrielStorm likes this.
    05-19-2014 04:44 PM
  5. GabrielStorm's Avatar
    Windows Phone 8 does use the same kernel as windows rt. but flashing rt on a wp device is not possible
    my bad thanks for the correction.
    05-19-2014 04:58 PM
  6. Microsoftjunkie's Avatar
    Technically it can be done, but no one has tried. Even a dell 2 in 1 ran windows rt using the old Snapdragon S4, found in the 9 series Lumias.

    I would love if someone at least tried it.
    peacefulberry likes this.
    05-19-2014 05:17 PM
  7. peacefulberry's Avatar
    Technically it can be done, but no one has tried. Even a dell 2 in 1 ran windows rt using the old Snapdragon S4, found in the 9 series Lumias.

    I would love if someone at least tried it.
    I thought that they were essentially the same kernel. Let me ask you...what do you think would be the biggest obstacles in achieving this? Also, I don't have an xda account, but if someone wants to post this question I'd be happy to follow it and donate to this development as well.
    05-19-2014 07:16 PM
  8. darkest.white's Avatar
    The fact that windows RT shares the same kernel, and the specs are very much the same, depending on the device at least, I'm sure it CAN be done. Its a matter of how though. I'm sure it would take a lot of time and tinkering around
    05-19-2014 07:27 PM
  9. xandros9's Avatar
    I think the first obstacle would be gaining enough access in the device. We don't have that in most devices.

    After that, we need to figure out how to make RT talk to the components properly. Phone components are exactly off-the-shelf plug-n-play parts.

    and so on.
    05-19-2014 07:33 PM
  10. Maaz Mansori's Avatar
    While RT offers more capabilities as an OS than WP does, there would be many drawbacks as well to running RT in its current form on a 1520. Even if you managed to get WiFi working, you would likely not be able to use the carrier network meaning no phone calls and no texts, at least not in the traditional sense. In fact, there won't be any built in capability to even do calls or texts if you miraculously managed to get carrier access working. Apps optimized for the smaller screen would no longer work. The 1520 is a $600 phone which would just end up being a 6 inch tablet. I don't see why anyone would want to do that. Why not wait for tomorrow's Surface Mini announcement? Perhaps they will have something running RT with a slightly larger screen and for half the price.
    Otherwise, all indications are that Microsoft is working to unify Windows RT and Windows Phone in a future release of Windows, maybe as early as next year in Windows 9.
    xandros9 likes this.
    05-19-2014 07:41 PM
  11. peacefulberry's Avatar
    While RT offers more capabilities as an OS than WP does, there would be many drawbacks as well to running RT in its current form on a 1520. Even if you managed to get WiFi working, you would likely not be able to use the carrier network meaning no phone calls and no texts, at least not in the traditional sense. In fact, there won't be any built in capability to even do calls or texts if you miraculously managed to get carrier access working. Apps optimized for the smaller screen would no longer work. The 1520 is a $600 phone which would just end up being a 6 inch tablet. I don't see why anyone would want to do that. Why not wait for tomorrow's Surface Mini announcement? Perhaps they will have something running RT with a slightly larger screen and for half the price.
    Otherwise, all indications are that Microsoft is working to unify Windows RT and Windows Phone in a future release of Windows, maybe as early as next year in Windows 9.
    Thanks. Question: Which RT tablets are SIM capable? Also, I did read some time ago that rt and WP were combining, but I didn't know if someone had started the process on their own just in case 2015 turns into 2016, 17, or 18. LOL.
    05-19-2014 08:21 PM
  12. Maaz Mansori's Avatar
    Thanks. Question: Which RT tablets are SIM capable? Also, I did read some time ago that rt and WP were combining, but I didn't know if someone had started the process on their own just in case 2015 turns into 2016, 17, or 18. LOL.
    The only one is the Surface 2 LTE (10+ inch screen) that is SIM capable but will only support data, not voice or SMS (unless using Skype or another VoIP or Internet texting app).
    05-19-2014 09:18 PM
  13. xandros9's Avatar
    The only one is the Surface 2 LTE (10+ inch screen) that is SIM capable but will only support data, not voice or SMS (unless using Skype or another VoIP or Internet texting app).
    I thought the Lumia 2520 has LTE cellular in it
    05-19-2014 10:08 PM
  14. Maaz Mansori's Avatar
    I thought the Lumia 2520 has LTE cellular in it
    Yes, you are correct. I totally forgot about that one since most of us regularly only discuss the Surface line and other OEMs are not currently supporting RT. Regardless, it's very similar to the Surface 2 LTE and I doubt Microsoft will continue 2 separate lines of similar tablets. I think the OP is looking for a smaller device running RT. Let's see what is announced this morning.
    xandros9 likes this.
    05-20-2014 08:31 AM
  15. peacefulberry's Avatar
    So, anyone watched the live event today? I did! What do you guys think about the new pen app/one note capabilities that was announced today, but on a phablet? Personally, I would love this on a 1520-type device! This (and mutitasking window) is exactly what I would need for a business phone. What are your thoughts?
    05-20-2014 11:16 AM
  16. GabrielStorm's Avatar
    Yes, you are correct. I totally forgot about that one since most of us regularly only discuss the Surface line and other OEMs are not currently supporting RT. Regardless, it's very similar to the Surface 2 LTE and I doubt Microsoft will continue 2 separate lines of similar tablets. I think the OP is looking for a smaller device running RT. Let's see what is announced this morning.
    from the specs page on the 2520. i see no cellular. only data

    Data Network .
    LTE network bands2: 4 .
    .LTE max data speed DL3: 150 Mbps .
    .LTE max data speed UL: 50 Mbps .
    .WCDMA network4: 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1900 MHz, 2100 MHz.
    .WCDMA max data speed DL: HSDPA - 21.1 Mbps .
    .WCDMA max data speed UL: HSUPA - 5.76 Mbps .
    .GSM network5: 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, 1900 MHz.
    .GSM max data speed DL: EGPRS 236.8 kbps .
    .GSM max data speed UL: EGPRS 236.8 kbps .
    05-20-2014 04:13 PM
  17. peacefulberry's Avatar
    Yes, you are correct. I totally forgot about that one since most of us regularly only discuss the Surface line and other OEMs are not currently supporting RT. Regardless, it's very similar to the Surface 2 LTE and I doubt Microsoft will continue 2 separate lines of similar tablets. I think the OP is looking for a smaller device running RT. Let's see what is announced this morning.
    Hey, just checking in to see if you watched today's press event. Just to clarify, I don't want a smaller device running RT (such as a mini Surface), I actually want a phone that also runs RT. In other words, I want to do everything on my phone that is done with RT, and especially that the new pen functionality announced today with Surface P3! :) Essentially, I am looking for a "Note" type of device, but on WP. So, I guess a combination of a WP and RT, or maybe if you have to make it a 6" RT device with phone, SMS, MMS, etc. capabilities...a true phablet in my eyes!
    05-20-2014 04:35 PM
  18. xandros9's Avatar
    Hey, just checking in to see if you watched today's press event. Just to clarify, I don't want a smaller device running RT (such as a mini Surface), I actually want a phone that also runs RT. In other words, I want to do everything on my phone that is done with RT, and especially that the new pen functionality announced today with Surface P3! :) Essentially, I am looking for a "Note" type of device, but on WP. So, I guess a combination of a WP and RT, or maybe if you have to make it a 6" RT device with phone, SMS, MMS, etc. capabilities...a true phablet in my eyes!
    Welp, you're out of luck for now.

    I heard of a phone prototype or something that ran full, x86 Windows 8 a long time ago, I dont know where that went.
    05-20-2014 05:55 PM
  19. peacefulberry's Avatar
    Welp, you're out of luck for now.

    I heard of a phone prototype or something that ran full, x86 Windows 8 a long time ago, I dont know where that went.
    Ooh, im going to look for that! May I ask where did you see/hear that information?
    05-20-2014 08:51 PM
  20. xandros9's Avatar
    It was last year or so, but upon searching, I found numerous articles, this included. http://www.pcworld.com/article/20381...windows-8.html

    Might want to Bing the internet for more relevant info. I doubt that phone saw the light of day honestly.
    05-20-2014 10:08 PM
  21. peacefulberry's Avatar
    It was last year or so, but upon searching, I found numerous articles, this included. http://www.pcworld.com/article/20381...windows-8.html

    Might want to Bing the internet for more relevant info. I doubt that phone saw the light of day honestly.
    Thx for the info. Honestly, this is my dream device...only because I really don't want an Android at the moment. I would prefer to stick with WP. I know a lot of ppl would love a 5.5- 6" Lumia with more of a rt software for better functionality of a business device. Well, they say create what you want, so I guess this has to start somewhere...
    05-21-2014 10:54 AM
  22. peacefulberry's Avatar
    Ok, yeah I saw that article last year and skipped right over it! Um, I guess this is kind of in the right direction, but more rt win 8 like on the surface. I also like the new pen/one note functionality, but I won't be picky. :)
    05-21-2014 11:15 AM
  23. peacefulberry's Avatar
    Just read the article about the surface mini waiting on a touch friendly version of Office...all I'm asking is that this version of Office be brought to Windows Phone. I can't use the current version of Office to create good business documents /presentations. I can't even insert photos into a word document. This, along with multi tasking Windows and a few other reasons was really the only reason why I wanted rt on a phone, but if Office and multi window support were implemented than rt can be nixed...what do you think?
    05-21-2014 02:01 PM
  24. Ezhik's Avatar
    I wish :(
    05-22-2014 05:56 PM

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