Oh, and one more thing.....this is what you consider "difficult issues"?? Not surprising..
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You guys turned my heart breaking loss if an angry whopper thread in a phone war.
I would have said - fair enough, I'll come back when it's dark for a rematch, but in the meantime, send me your picture via NFC and lets see who's screen it looks best on then. Whaa... what's that? You don't have NFC?! Huh. . . Okay, you've got wireless charging though, right? :wink:
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im returning my lumia 920 for htc one x+.. i pre-ordered the damn thing on the 8th of nov n i still dont have a working phone (dead pixel, battery life sucks).. i got a defective model and they agreed to send me a replacement device which is backordered lol its pathetic.. so tired.. i also have dust under FFC n my sis iPhone 5 does take really good pictures n we most the time take it during the day so it doesnt matter how well it performers at night but yaa.. really want this phone but it sucks (they only have black n red model available) n there are few things in WP8 that does not make sense n those really bothers me so im gonna go with android (had focus then Lumia 900 but cant support msft forever) some things they do just pisses me off
I think he's been drinking his own Kool-Aid.
I haven't lost a picture battle yet, with still or video, even won over a Nexus 4. So I'm still saying it's the best camera out there and even with the little bit of softness, this can be cured by a software/firmware fix. No complaints.
Nexus 4 camera isn't the greatest so that is nothing to brag about. However, it does own in everything else except LTE and camera and for $299 unlocked, it just wins automatically.
I love the 8gb argument. Chances are pretty damn good that if 8gb isn't enough for you, neither is 32. That said, a phone without expandable storage isn't a top of the line imo.Well, that escalated quickly!
I have to disagree. At $299 unlocked the device only has 8GB of onboard storage which just isn't going to be sufficient enough for every user out there. Add the extra $50 to double the storage and you are still only a stone's throw away from the Lumia 920 ($449.99 unlocked) that doubles the storage capacity and adds a better camera + LTE.
I love the 8gb argument. Chances are pretty damn good that if 8gb isn't enough for you, neither is 32. That said, a phone without expandable storage isn't a top of the line imo.
Well, that escalated quickly!
I have to disagree. At $299 unlocked the device only has 8GB of onboard storage which just isn't going to be sufficient enough for every user out there. Add the extra $50 to double the storage and you are still only a stone's throw away from the Lumia 920 ($449.99 unlocked) that doubles the storage capacity and adds a better camera + LTE.
I consider myself middle class and $100 is hardly a stone's throw away. Let's say that you are right though and a weeks worth of groceries isn't a lot(could be more than a weeks worth outside of Vancouver BC), you are forgetting that the technology packed in here is nothing short of the best that mobile phones have to offer. I am not talking about gimmicky stuff like a camera in low light or beats audio. This is straight out beefy value here since it includes the foundation of the phone, no I do not consider the camera to be a foundation. Just to be clear though, the Lumia 920 where I live is $549.99 and the Nexus 4 16gb is $359.99. Huge difference for double the ram and a quad core version of the dual core found in the Lumia 920.
To put this into perspective that even fan boys can understand. The CPU is twice the Lumia 920, literally. The ram is twice the Lumia 920, literally. The operating system and software is the state of art version of the leading or second place mobile operating system in the world(whether or not you hate Android or not is irrelevant because is still costs a lot to maintain and design and this is the top of line version of it and older phones like the GS3 still cost $600 when running older versions). The phone has maybe 2,3, or 4 times as many apps as the lumia 920. The screen is bigger and brighter at 600+ nits and 4.7 inches than the Lumia 920. It is also thinner and lighter than the Lumia 920 despite using glass on the back.
Sorry. For $299 and those specifications, it is unreal. The equivalent would be an Automobile company offering a car based off a Ferrari with a Ferrari engine for the price of a Corolla. The automobile equivalent of your saying is get a Acura TL instead, it is only 30 grand more and has power everything.
In the important areas like CPU, RAM, software, screen, battery charge cycle, price, battery size, physical profile the Nexus 4 wins easily in value.
The Lumia 920 wins in luxury things that are not even a prerequisite for a great phone like camera and LTE and using the phone with gloves. In fact, the only fundamental that the Lumia 920 wins in is storage space.
Ever wonder why platforms like iOS and Windows Phone never has Quad Core processors or as much ram as Android? Could it is because they don't need them? Just look at the iPhone 5 benchmark, its dual cores there easily beat many of the quad core Android phones, even in real world usage the iPhone 5 easily equals or bests its quad core competitors. Optimisation is key here, if the platform is optimised, it naturally doesn't need as many cores/ram as one that isn't as optimised. I'm not joking when I say my iPhone 5 or Lumia 920 doesn't get bogged down like my dad's S3 despite "only" having dual core processors(it is usually here people tell me I have to root the Android device to 'unlock its true potential'). Don't take my word for it, just play with both devices.I consider myself middle class and $100 is hardly a stone's throw away. Let's say that you are right though and a weeks worth of groceries isn't a lot(could be more than a weeks worth outside of Vancouver BC), you are forgetting that the technology packed in here is nothing short of the best that mobile phones have to offer. I am not talking about gimmicky stuff like a camera in low light or beats audio. This is straight out beefy value here since it includes the foundation of the phone, no I do not consider the camera to be a foundation. Just to be clear though, the Lumia 920 where I live is $549.99 and the Nexus 4 16gb is $359.99. Huge difference for double the ram and a quad core version of the dual core found in the Lumia 920.
To put this into perspective that even fan boys can understand. The CPU is twice the Lumia 920, literally. The ram is twice the Lumia 920, literally. The operating system and software is the state of art version of the leading or second place mobile operating system in the world(whether or not you hate Android or not is irrelevant because is still costs a lot to maintain and design and this is the top of line version of it and older phones like the GS3 still cost $600 when running older versions). The phone has maybe 2,3, or 4 times as many apps as the lumia 920. The screen is bigger and brighter at 600+ nits and 4.7 inches than the Lumia 920. It is also thinner and lighter than the Lumia 920 despite using glass on the back.
Sorry. For $299 and those specifications, it is unreal. The equivalent would be an Automobile company offering a car based off a Ferrari with a Ferrari engine for the price of a Corolla. The automobile equivalent of your saying is get a Acura TL instead, it is only 30 grand more and has power everything.
In the important areas like CPU, RAM, software, screen, battery charge cycle, price, battery size, physical profile the Nexus 4 wins easily in value.
The Lumia 920 wins in luxury things that are not even a prerequisite for a great phone like camera and LTE and using the phone with gloves. In fact, the only fundamental that the Lumia 920 wins in is storage space.
Ever wonder why platforms like iOS and Windows Phone never has Quad Core processors or as much ram as Android? Could it is because they don't need them? Just look at the iPhone 5 benchmark, its dual cores there easily beat many of the quad core Android phones, even in real world usage the iPhone 5 easily equals or bests its quad core competitors. Optimisation is key here, if the platform is optimised, it naturally doesn't need as many cores/ram as one that isn't as optimised. I'm not joking when I say my iPhone 5 or Lumia 920 doesn't get bogged down like my dad's S3 despite "only" having dual core processors(it is usually here people tell me I have to root the Android device to 'unlock its true potential'). Don't take my word for it, just play with both devices.
I can see where you are coming from the rest of your post though, I just find it irritating that people use quad core/ram as a benchmark at how great Android phones are, it isn't, okay? Having quad cores isn't that big an advantage manufacturers are making it out to be.
Quad core is a waste on mobile phones. There's nothing that uses them and the same gor 2 gigs of ram. Its a great way to future proof your divice. The nexus doesn't need lte. I wish my Lumia 920 didn't have it or at least had an off switch. Its a battery hog . The one thin that kills the nexus foe me is the glass in the back . I won't ever buy a phone with glass on the back.