Ativ Beam

[agmanuel]

Hi all! I'm Alberto from Argentina (yes, South America!), I've a question for you, is there any trick to get ativ beam in my lumia 920? 'd be greta to have since many of my friends have s4, I've read about getting nokia apps in samsung phones. I'd appreciate your answers!

P.S: Sorry for my English!

 

[sharkz007]

Can you tell me what does ativ beam do.I don't know cause i have never used Samsung phones.

 

[agmanuel]

It allow to share via nfc with android phones!

 

[agmanuel]

Anyone known?

 

[migueli2]

Ask them to install Nokia NFC app

 

[agmanuel]

I didn't know that these exits! I'll tell them...

 

[jojapath]

You don't really need an app. to share with them. Just enable NFC Sharing (Tap + Send) in your phone's setting and whatever you want to share, choose "SHARE" and select "TAP + SEND" from the menu and tap your phone with your friend's phone and that's it.

Here is an example:

NFC sharing between Android and Windows Phone 8 - YouTube

 

[ishaan_666]

actually, as noted in the video, transfer of large files like photos, music, and videos is not possible
whereas, if I recall correctly, ativ beam does support that functionality

 

[jojapath]

actually, as noted in the video, transfer of large files like photos, music, and videos is not possible
whereas, if I recall correctly, ativ beam does support that functionality

You're right!
If it's for large files, NFC isn't a good format to transfer large files anyway. It's slow, it has low bandwidth and it's generally unreliable for long periods of time. NFC is really good to start a tap-and-share session that escalates to a bluetooth or WiFi file transfer.

You should just use bluetooth for large files then.

 

[agmanuel]

actually, as noted in the video, transfer of large files like photos, music, and videos is not possible
whereas, if I recall correctly, ativ beam does support that functionality

Yes ativ beam allows that, that's why I want it! Is there any tutorial like the one it was posted in wpcentral about Nokia apps in other WP?

 

[Ray Adams]

Let me explain a little. When you use NFC for sending files you only use it to connect Bluetooth or WiFi direct. NFC packet itself is very little to contain useful information. Android devices uses WiFi direct to transfer big files if both devices on same WiFi network, or switched to BT if not. Windows phone has support for WiFi direct but by some unknown reasons it works only between windows phone and windows 8 tablets. Tested by me a lot of times. But when you trying to send pictures, videos to android devices through NFC, it doesn't work. It seems that Samsung just enabled this functionality as they have full access to the system.

I know that applications from Microsoft and from vendors has full access to OS API, which is just closed to third party developers.
Vendors can even create file manager because they have full access to file system.
if Microsoft will ever open at least 20% of that api for us developers, world will receive tons of useful apps.

 

[agmanuel]

Let me explain a little. When you use NFC for sending files you only use it to connect Bluetooth or WiFi direct. NFC packet itself is very little to contain useful information. Android devices uses WiFi direct to transfer big files if both devices on same WiFi network, or switched to BT if not. Windows phone has support for WiFi direct but by some unknown reasons it works only between windows phone and windows 8 tablets. Tested by me a lot of times. But when you trying to send pictures, videos to android devices through NFC, it doesn't work. It seems that Samsung just enabled this functionality as they have full access to the system.

I know that applications from Microsoft and from vendors has full access to OS API, which is just closed to third party developers.
Vendors can even create file manager because they have full access to file system.
if Microsoft will ever open at least 20% of that api for us developers, world will receive tons of useful apps.

I think that ativ beam should be available for everyone for that reason...

 

[Ray Adams]

If Samsung give it to all, we all will use it But as every vendor trying to make their devices unique, we will never see it on Lumias or HTC

 

[foxbat121]

Wifi direct is supported by Android OS. Not Samsung's invention. ATIV beam does use Wifi Direct to send large files. Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 do not support WiFi Direct yet. With WP8, it uses wifi, not wifi direct, to send large files if it is available. Hence the requirement to be on the same wifi network. With wifi direct, you don't need to be on any wifi network. That's the major difference.

IIRC, Windows 8.1 adds WiFi direct support in OS. Not sure when WP8 will get wifi direct support.