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  1. MikeSo's Avatar
    Woohoo, all finished with the update! I don't have a lot of music and media on my phone (use the cloud for most) so migration didn't take long. The whole thing took 30 minutes from start of download to finish of installation. Smooth.

    Hope the battery doesn't suffer too much. Seems it's always under severe strain the first day or so after an update when backrgound processes seem to be going on.

    Now I'm going to go and check the WiFi at the exact same spot I tried it earler with the Lumia 521 and 8.0 and 8.1 on the Icon. See if it's better. :)
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    02-11-2015 01:04 PM
  2. gernerttl's Avatar
    Actually not entirely true. The Tech Preview is just the beginning.
    True. I didn't want to call it beta, because it is available to pretty much anybody who wants to try it out. What is the step called in the process that is between beta and final release? That's kinds what it is.
    02-11-2015 01:06 PM
  3. Mirage85's Avatar
    I would have to disagree in part. The network infrastructure is owned by the carriers; they've invested millions of dollars in the development, security, and improvements in those networks. The FCC has to walk a thin line when it comes to regulations. Yes there is statute law that governs communications, but there is constitutional law that supersedes that. The FCC can write and modify regulations that will seem to be in line with the statute, but inadvertently run afoul of the Constitution. In other words there is a fine line about what the US government can or cannot to. More regulation is not necessarily better.

    Let's say the FCC comes down and says, "Carriers. You shall not block updates to phones, because it violates the fair use clause. You will also allow devices from other carriers to be allowed on your network, regardless of hardware or OS configuration." By doing that, the government has now added a huge financial and logistical burden on to the carriers. They would be required to support pretty much ANY device made. There is a reason the carriers support a limited amount of devices. It would be like McDonald's being forced to make Whoppers for anybody who asked for one. McDonald's would have to stock the ingredients to make Whoppers on top of the ingredients to make Big Macs.

    To the average person, it seems "black and white." In reality it is much more complex and to be a bit clich, there is a "50 Shades of Gray" when it comes to the dance that is done between the carriers, the customers/end users, the government(s), the OEMs, the OS and software developers, and how best to balance it all out.
    Granted this is a little bit different, but they did this with landlines in the way of making it illegal for phone companies to charge you a rental fee for a phone and not allowing any other phones to work. Again, this is a little different given the technology then vs now, but this is the direction we're headed, it's just taking longer than we'd all like.
    02-11-2015 01:07 PM
  4. Mr Hyde's Avatar
    I hope this helps a few people waiting on the update. Here is my experience.

    I'm on the Developer Preview. I deactivated DP for the update but after about 25 minutes of being told my phone was up to date I reactivated DP and tried again. Checking for updates with DP active resulted in a bunch of 80072efd errors. A quick search showed the servers being overwhelmed with requests was the most likely cause so I just kept trying. The last check for updates took about 7minutes and the update started downloading. After download there is a preparing to install phase. Clicking install will restart your phone and the gears will start turning on the screen. It too about 10 minutes for the status bar to fill. After another auto restart it seems that you're all done but clearing your lock screen shows a 'migrating data' screen. Mine had 17 items to complete. It took about 15 additional minutes for that to complete.

    So... that's what you have to look forward to. It took about 25-30 minutes total. I hope this helps someone deciding when to install.
    02-11-2015 01:07 PM
  5. NoogMan9605's Avatar
    It appears the wifi reception is a bit better. I'm getting about double the "shown" rate at my desk that I used to get for the months leading up to the update (running DP).

    Did you notice it boots faster? Woohoo!
    02-11-2015 01:08 PM
  6. gernerttl's Avatar
    Woohoo, all finished with the update! I don't have a lot of music and media on my phone (use the cloud for most) so migration didn't take long. The whole thing took 30 minutes from start of download to finish of installation. Smooth.

    Hope the battery doesn't suffer too much. Seems it's always under severe strain the first day or so after an update when backrgound processes seem to be going on.

    Now I'm going to go and check the WiFi at the exact same spot I tried it earler with the Lumia 521 and 8.0 and 8.1 on the Icon. See if it's better. :)
    And there is MUCH rejoicing!

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    02-11-2015 01:09 PM
  7. MikeSo's Avatar
    Mine is using battery like crazy right now though. Even though I have it charging on a USB port from a PC, it actually is dropping in battery...

    Most bestest of all: BT 4.0! My Fitbit actually syncs with their app!
    02-11-2015 01:12 PM
  8. shakermaker41's Avatar
    All the camera updates are wonderful. I doubt I'll ever use Hey Cortana, but it's neat regardless. I was hoping after Denim my Icon would finally be able to see my 5ghz network but still out of luck on that. Must just be a lemon. But considering I bought this used off eBay I'll live with it until WM10
    02-11-2015 01:15 PM
  9. orion0211's Avatar
    I want to thank everyone for the entertainment during this wait. I got my Icon the day before VZW retired it and held out for PFD until mid-Jan. The update is installing now and just want to pass on that although this is my first post, I'm glad and I could come here and read all the thoughts posted that I was feeling. Glad the wait is over.
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    02-11-2015 01:18 PM
  10. cslawren's Avatar
    All the camera updates are wonderful. I doubt I'll ever use Hey Cortana, but it's neat regardless. I was hoping after Denim my Icon would finally be able to see my 5ghz network but still out of luck on that. Must just be a lemon. But considering I bought this used off eBay I'll live with it until WM10
    Mine sees 5ghz just fine. What frequency/channel is your 5ghz network running on?
    02-11-2015 01:18 PM
  11. wpfan2be's Avatar
    as others posted, I also had to check back preview for the download to start
    02-11-2015 01:19 PM
  12. anywhereanytime's Avatar
    I hope some bloggers post how many of us Icon owners upgraded to Denim on day 1 ...
    02-11-2015 01:22 PM
  13. gernerttl's Avatar
    Granted this is a little bit different, but they did this with landlines in the way of making it illegal for phone companies to charge you a rental fee for a phone and not allowing any other phones to work. Again, this is a little different given the technology then vs now, but this is the direction we're headed, it's just taking longer than we'd all like.
    Hmmm.. I understand your point, but using the old landline phones as an example is not very good. Since, they never outlawed the practice. What the US Government did was determine Ma Bell was a monopoly and broke it up into "Baby Bells."

    Once you had the phone line installed and activated, you could connect ANY landline phone afterwards, and even add phones onto the same line. The phone companies had no way of determining how many phones were connected to one line.

    Cell phone networks are an entirely different beast.
    02-11-2015 01:23 PM
  14. jbclemons's Avatar
    Mine is using battery like crazy right now though. Even though I have it charging on a USB port from a PC, it actually is dropping in battery...

    Most bestest of all: BT 4.0! My Fitbit actually syncs with their app!
    I also noticed it was losing battery level while plugged into PC USB port. Mine was always slow to charge that way anyway, and is charging fine on my Qi pad.

    I'm having issues waking the phone with the camera button, though. It's spotty at best, and I've verified it's enabled in the camera settings.
    02-11-2015 01:24 PM
  15. shakermaker41's Avatar
    Mine sees 5ghz just fine. What frequency/channel is your 5ghz network running on?
    Well my router has both of those set to "Auto", so I guess it just decides. Randomly, like once a month, I will all of a sudden see the 5Ghz network as an option but within an hour or so it's gone and I'm back on my 2.4Ghz. It's really not a huge deal and I can certainly live with it...I just can't use WiFi when we have the baby monitor on :)
    02-11-2015 01:24 PM
  16. miopea's Avatar
    Is anyone else missing the "Hey Cortana" settings app? I cannot seem to find how to enable that function. (I went from P4D to OTA upgrade.)
    02-11-2015 01:25 PM
  17. puckrazy1's Avatar
    So I disabled the Dev Preview earlier and it wouldn't find any updates. I enabled it again and it found the update right away. Weird.

    Downloading now in STL btw...if this is region based. Not sure.
    02-11-2015 01:25 PM
  18. 2390's Avatar
    Is anyone else missing the "Hey Cortana" settings app? I cannot seem to find how to enable that function. (I went from P4D to OTA upgrade.)
    It showed up for me after about 5 minutes. It's near the bottom
    02-11-2015 01:31 PM
  19. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Still showing no update.... 2:35...WTF, did everyone else get it or are there still people who have not gotten it yet ?
    02-11-2015 01:37 PM
  20. daniel329's Avatar
    This fixed it! Thanks!!! It was still 5.0.5 but the reinstall fixed it
    02-11-2015 01:37 PM
  21. jbclemons's Avatar
    I'm having issues waking the phone with the camera button, though. It's spotty at best, and I've verified it's enabled in the camera settings.
    After a soft reset, camera button wakes the phone just fine, much faster than pre-denim fer sure.
    02-11-2015 01:37 PM
  22. grafixguy#AC's Avatar
    Still showing no update.... 2:35...WTF, did everyone else get it or are there still people who have not gotten it yet ?
    I had to re-enable PfD. Checked for update and it took between 10 and 15 minutes to find it.
    02-11-2015 01:38 PM
  23. Tjarren's Avatar
    Ok, since I went from stock 8.0 to this, I have a question for you long time PfDer's: what should I get excited about and set up first? My app update list is long and my phone is hawt!
    02-11-2015 01:42 PM
  24. antonius138's Avatar
    Can't believe its finally here...It feels like I have a flagship phone again!
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    02-11-2015 01:43 PM
  25. feeked's Avatar
    not sure what did it, but I finally got the upgrade.

    the camera is o.O night and day
    02-11-2015 01:45 PM
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