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  1. bo_woods's Avatar
    I'm not sure what feature I lose or gain between the two for use on AT&T/Cricket

    Lumia Icon apparently gets LTE in some areas on ATT/Cricket? and LTE+MMS on T-Mobile with Denim, so what about AT&T?

    How does the 930 do on AT&T

    I am lost

    Phone is indeed a beauty ( a diet wouldn't hurt though )


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    05-26-2015 05:15 PM
  2. gernerttl's Avatar
    The 930 will only send/receive on GSM and HSPA+ in the US unless AT&T/Cricket is operating any of the below LTE bands in your area.

    Bands used by the Lumia 930:
    4G Network LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800)

    Bands use by the Lumia Icon:
    4G Network LTE band 4(1700/2100), 13(700)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
    xandros9 likes this.
    05-26-2015 05:42 PM
  3. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Using 930 with a Straight Talk AT&T sim. No LTE. Data and mms work perfectly. Not sure.about internet sharing because it's not possible with ST. I'm assuming it will work the same thru AT&T as it does on the mvno.
    xandros9 likes this.
    05-26-2015 05:43 PM
  4. gordonfink's Avatar
    I am pretty sure you lose MMS with an Icon on ATT.

    On either phone, you will get LTE speeds. Outside of the LTE speeds, everything works perfectly on ATT with the 930. With the Icon, I believe everything works fine except you can't receive MMS. There's a few threads here - maybe someone figured it out by now, or maybe it's just not possible on Verizon phones to get MMS on ATT.
    05-26-2015 06:34 PM
  5. bo_woods's Avatar
    I am pretty sure you lose MMS with an Icon on ATT.

    On either phone, you will get LTE speeds. Outside of the LTE speeds, everything works perfectly on ATT with the 930. With the Icon, I believe everything works fine except you can't receive MMS. There's a few threads here - maybe someone figured it out by now, or maybe it's just not possible on Verizon phones to get MMS on ATT.
    So your saying with denim the 930 gets LTE AND MMS on AT&T while the Icon doesn't get either?
    05-26-2015 06:38 PM
  6. mary beth hale's Avatar
    So your saying with denim the 930 gets LTE AND MMS on AT&T while the Icon doesn't get either?
    The Icon will not get lte on at&t. That is cdma locked down. The 930 on denim will not get lte on at&t either but mms and hspa+ data works fine.
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    05-26-2015 06:43 PM
  7. gordonfink's Avatar
    As Mary said, no LTE with either.

    I had a 930 for awhile (about 6 months). It was, easily, the best phone I've ever owned, tested, or seen in person. It was absolutely fantastic. However, for me, lack of LTE was troubling, mostly while traveling. I tether my phone to my Surface to do work on, and I had a proposal that I was trying to submit electronically, and it was taking forever w/o LTE.

    If I wasn't concerned about a situation like that again, I'd still have it. But, I found that I needed LTE more than I expected to, so I went with a 830.
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    05-26-2015 06:50 PM
  8. bo_woods's Avatar
    As Mary said, no LTE with either.

    I had a 930 for awhile (about 6 months). It was, easily, the best phone I've ever owned, tested, or seen in person. It was absolutely fantastic. However, for me, lack of LTE was troubling, mostly while traveling. I tether my phone to my Surface to do work on, and I had a proposal that I was trying to submit electronically, and it was taking forever w/o LTE.

    If I wasn't concerned about a situation like that again, I'd still have it. But, I found that I needed LTE more than I expected to, so I went with a 830.
    Why not the 1520? Too big?
    05-26-2015 07:02 PM
  9. gordonfink's Avatar
    Initially, that was my thought (too big). I am considering it. I have a 1520 inbound, and a new screen assembly sitting here waiting for it. So, after I do that replacement, I may do some extended testing, to see if I can live with the size of it or not.
    05-26-2015 07:06 PM
  10. oviedofreak82's Avatar
    I know the international model of the 930 isn't compliant with any US LTE frequencies, but are there any CV that use US LTE bands? Possibly Argentina?
    05-26-2015 07:10 PM
  11. bo_woods's Avatar
    Initially, that was my thought (too big). I am considering it. I have a 1520 inbound, and a new screen assembly sitting here waiting for it. So, after I do that replacement, I may do some extended testing, to see if I can live with the size of it or not.
    I would definitely encourage you to try it. The 1520 is an AMAZING device, and that screen is just so beautiful.. but using a case really helps dealing with the phone's size IMO as it adds grip, along with protection, because the bigger they are, the harder they fall sadly..
    05-26-2015 07:17 PM
  12. gernerttl's Avatar
    So your saying with denim the 930 gets LTE AND MMS on AT&T while the Icon doesn't get either?
    Yes it will work with AT&T's GSM/HSPA+ network and not with any US LTE networks because of the differences in bands. As for MMS, it should work for the 930; the problem with the Icon on AT&T and T-Mobile's networks is that Verizon locked down the APN settings. There are a couple threads about how some people have gotten the Icon to work on AT&T, there are even a few who have gotten it to work on AT&T's LTE network, but those are few and far between.

    As for speeds... HSPA+ is almost as fast as LTE. The reason why HSPA+ lost out to LTE worldwide was that LTE has more potential for expansion and a higher overall potential data throughput.

    I know the international model of the 930 isn't compliant with any US LTE frequencies, but are there any CV that use US LTE bands? Possibly Argentina?
    There is no US model of the 930. It is ONLY international.
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    05-26-2015 07:37 PM
  13. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    I'm using my Icon on Verizon Straight Talk. Prior to getting it working, I used it on AT&T and MMS didn't work. LTE did work however....
    05-29-2015 08:58 AM
  14. Creeto's Avatar
    I own a icon and LTE works if you are lucky to be in a city that att supprts same bands. Chicago is one of them. I get 20 Mb, mms works too. You javeto adjust settings
    05-29-2015 10:48 PM
  15. bo_woods's Avatar
    So essentially

    Icon- SMS, MMS, and occasional LTE

    while

    930-SMS, MMS, and no LTE at all

    This is what I am getting from the responses of people using these devices :/

    If that's the case then the ICON is the clear winner, especially being that it's like $200 cheaper than a brand new 930
    06-13-2015 11:41 AM
  16. Likwidz's Avatar
    So essentially

    Icon- SMS, MMS, and occasional LTE

    while

    930-SMS, MMS, and no LTE at all

    This is what I am getting from the responses of people using these devices :/



    If that's the case then the ICON is the clear winner, especially being that it's like $200 cheaper than a brand new 930
    I'm running a 930 on AT&T and yes to SMS, MMS working and LTE not. Before hand I couldn't find anyone saying the ICON would get LTE on AT&T, but I might have not dug deep enough. I also chose the 930 over the ICON because I wanted the Orange model and I'm not to fond of the Verizon branding on the phone.
    06-13-2015 12:05 PM
  17. heickelrrx's Avatar
    I use 930 on cricket when staying in US. Indonesian variant. HSDPA only. MMS isn't working.

    But MMS seems work with my Telkomsel SIM via Roaming
    06-13-2015 12:12 PM
  18. gordonfink's Avatar
    I don't think you're getting LTE on the Icon either.
    06-13-2015 12:30 PM
  19. heywhitmarsh's Avatar
    I don't think you're getting LTE on the Icon either.
    The Icon works great on band 4 LTE, which AT&T uses "in many markets." However band 4 is not AT&T's main LTE band.
    So it would be perfectly reasonable to get LTE on the ICON on AT&T.
    06-22-2015 06:11 PM
  20. gordonfink's Avatar
    The Icon works great on band 4 LTE, which AT&T uses "in many markets." However band 4 is not AT&T's main LTE band.
    So it would be perfectly reasonable to get LTE on the ICON on AT&T.
    I have an Icon coming in Friday, so I'll put my AT&T sim card into and see.
    06-24-2015 08:16 AM
  21. gordonfink's Avatar
    I put my ATT card into the Icon that came in today, and it only said "H" next to "AT&T" in the status bar.
    06-27-2015 04:41 PM
  22. heywhitmarsh's Avatar
    I put my ATT card into the Icon that came in today, and it only said "H" next to "AT&T" in the status bar.
    H shows you have HSPA coverage, which is AT&T's "4G" coverage. If there is LTE in your area, then it is either 700Mhz (band 17) or 850Mhz (band 5), neither of which the ICON supports.
    06-28-2015 02:11 PM
  23. xandros9's Avatar
    H shows you have HSPA coverage, which is AT&T's "4G" coverage. If there is LTE in your area, then it is either 700Mhz (band 17) or 850Mhz (band 5), neither of which the ICON supports.
    Just a quick clarification, H+ is what ATT calls 4G, H is just 3G. They're kinda both 3G tech. (varies depending on coverage)
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    06-28-2015 02:38 PM
  24. gordonfink's Avatar
    H shows you have HSPA coverage, which is AT&T's "4G" coverage. If there is LTE in your area, then it is either 700Mhz (band 17) or 850Mhz (band 5), neither of which the ICON supports.
    So the point is, then, that you will not, in all likelihood, get LTE on an Icon on AT&T.
    06-28-2015 04:21 PM
  25. gordonfink's Avatar
    I know from the 930 that HSPA is not LTE speeds. I did tests side by side to see, and HSPA was waaaayyyy slower.
    06-28-2015 04:22 PM
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