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  • Obama, And I'm a Democrat

    11 28.95%
  • Romney, And I'm a Republican

    9 23.68%
  • Obama, Lesser of Two Evils - Middle Of the Road

    5 13.16%
  • Romney, Lesser of Two Evils - Middle Of the Road

    7 18.42%
  • I Don't Vote

    0 0%
  • I Won't Vote Because I Refuse To Support Either Knucklehead

    1 2.63%
  • Not an American but I wanted to click something

    5 13.16%
11-10-2012 10:52 AM
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  1. palandri's Avatar
    My state legalized it. I'm very happy about that. Not sure what you mean by "promote"
    You can't be serious?
    11-06-2012 11:58 PM
  2. berty6294's Avatar
    You can't be serious?
    I honestly have no idea what the misunderstanding is. Why can't somebody in love with the same sex have the same rights as I do? I have gay friends and I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to get married and live a life like anybody else would?
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    11-07-2012 12:02 AM
  3. palandri's Avatar
    I honestly have no idea what the misunderstanding is. Why can't somebody in love with the same sex have the same rights as I do? I have gay friends and I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to get married and live a life like anybody else would?
    My point is, the right needs to understand why they lost. They need to break away from the Tea Party and become more moderate. Look at how Richard Mourdock did? If Richard Lugar would have been running, he would have probably won.

    Just my opinion. I just think the Republicans have went to far to the the right, due to the Tea Party.
    11-07-2012 12:21 AM
  4. ImmortalWarrior's Avatar
    You can resist progress all you want but I think it's time for the US to catch up to the rest of the first world.


    I'd like to point out that most of the red countys are low population rural areas. The "high culture" areas like Miami, New York, California are dems. There is reason to this rhyme... Think about it.
    11-07-2012 12:23 AM
  5. geekmaster's Avatar
    You can resist progress all you want but I think it's time for the US to catch up to the rest of the first world.


    I'd like to point out that most of the red countys are low population rural areas. The "high culture" areas like Miami, New York, California are dems. There is reason to this rhyme... Think about it.
    fair enough. just don't count the city state of Singapore out of the discussion :/
    11-07-2012 12:25 AM
  6. berty6294's Avatar
    My point is, the right needs to understand why they lost. They need to break away from the Tea Party and become more moderate. Look at how Richard Mourdock did? If Richard Lugar would have been running, he would have probably won.

    Just my opinion. I just think the Republicans have went to far to the the right, due to the Tea Party.
    I don't see the connection to what I was saying... and I'm even more confused why you liked all of my posts... idk what's going on here, I JUST WANT TO MOVE TO COLORADO AND DO QUESTIONABLE THINGS!
    palandri likes this.
    11-07-2012 12:26 AM
  7. geekmaster's Avatar
    since this is the internet i would like to practice the right to post this video. take it at face value but the situational irony is hilarious.

    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zYlOU7Fpk[/YT]
    11-07-2012 12:32 AM
  8. palandri's Avatar
    I don't see the connection to what I was saying... and I'm even more confused why you liked all of my posts... idk what's going on here, I JUST WANT TO MOVE TO COLORADO AND DO QUESTIONABLE THINGS!
    I liked your post because I agreed with them.

    My point was the Republicans have went too far to the right.
    11-07-2012 12:34 AM
  9. berty6294's Avatar
    I liked your post because I agreed with them.

    My point was the Republicans have went too far to the right.
    Sorry but what does "too far to the right" mean? I'm not familiar with the term
    11-07-2012 12:39 AM
  10. Duvi's Avatar
    Sorry but what does "too far to the right" mean? I'm not familiar with the term
    11-07-2012 12:48 AM
  11. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    Romney. But he lost. :'(
    11-07-2012 01:08 AM
  12. Reflexx's Avatar
    I don't think Republicans have gone too far to the right. Romney did win the popular vote after all.

    But the problem is that Republicans let the left define them. The left has a whole slew of derogatory stereotypes about Republicans, and for the most part they're really good at making people believe them.

    Most Republicans are mainly fiscal conservatives. That's the main commonality. However, the left would have you believe that most Republicans are racists or hate the poor or hate gays.

    The narrative works. Paint your opponent as a monster.
    11-07-2012 01:13 AM
  13. ImmortalWarrior's Avatar
    I don't think Republicans have gone too far to the right. Romney did win the popular vote after all.

    But the problem is that Republicans let the left define them. The left has a whole slew of derogatory stereotypes about Republicans, and for the most part they're really good at making people believe them.

    Most Republicans are mainly fiscal conservatives. That's the main commonality. However, the left would have you believe that most Republicans are racists or hate the poor or hate gays.

    The narrative works. Paint your opponent as a monster.

    I didn't need the democrats to give me that impression of the Republicans. They are pretty adept at coming off as Jesus loving, gay hating, evolution rejecting idiots all by themselves.
    11-07-2012 08:50 AM
  14. ImmortalWarrior's Avatar
    Did I mention that they also hate science? Lol
    11-07-2012 08:51 AM
  15. Reflexx's Avatar
    I didn't need the democrats to give me that impression of the Republicans. They are pretty adept as coming off as Jesus loving, gay hating, evolution rejecting idiots all by themselves.
    This is exactly what I mean.

    Sad that in the 2012 we have people that so easily buy into stereotypes, prejudice, and hate.

    It's the common narrative though. And people eat it up, all while thinking that they're somehow tolerant and loving. What a joke.
    11-07-2012 08:54 AM
  16. ImmortalWarrior's Avatar
    It's not prejudice if that's what happens. Look at the Texas state platform reforms for the Republicans. They have added that they openly oppose critical thinking skills and any schools teaching things that directly.oppose beliefs. This is the Christian right imposing in opposition to the establishment clause.

    Akin and Murdock who oppose abortion in ALL cases because of their Christian beliefs.

    Kitzmiller vs Dover was the direct result of Christian Republicans.

    Paul Ryan and his love for Ayn Rand who actively opposed helping the weak and poor. This woman actually thought that the mentally retarded and handicapped should be euthanized and Ryan is on record (video) as stating she had a big influence on his life.


    I could go on. Yes there are plenty of religious Democrats but you give me one religious literalist Democrat nuttjob and I'll give you ten Republican ones.

    I see it all the time.
    11-07-2012 09:08 AM
  17. berty6294's Avatar
    I don't think Republicans have gone too far to the right. Romney did win the popular vote after all.

    But the problem is that Republicans let the left define them. The left has a whole slew of derogatory stereotypes about Republicans, and for the most part they're really good at making people believe them.

    Most Republicans are mainly fiscal conservatives. That's the main commonality. However, the left would have you believe that most Republicans are racists or hate the poor or hate gays.

    The narrative works. Paint your opponent as a monster.
    Obama has popular vote now

    and I agree that its not prejudice if that is how that party as a whole stands on those issues. saying that republicans are "Jesus loving, gay hating, evolution rejecting idiots" is yes a bit extreme, but all the same correct. The party as a whole supports everything the bible stands for, does not approve of gay rights, and in general have a very traditional platform.
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    11-07-2012 09:16 AM
  18. Reflexx's Avatar
    It's not prejudice if that's what happens. Look at the Texas state platform reforms for the Republicans. They have added that they openly oppose critical thinking skills and any schools teaching things that directly.oppose beliefs. This is the Christian right imposing in opposition to the establishment clause.

    Akin and Murdock who oppose abortion in ALL cases because of their Christian beliefs.

    Kitzmiller vs Dover was the direct result of Christian Republicans.

    Paul Ryan and his love for Ayn Rand who actively opposed helping the weak and poor. This woman actually thought that the mentally retarded and handicapped should be euthanized and Ryan is on record (video) as stating she had a big influence on his life.


    I could go on. Yes there are plenty of religious Democrats but you give me one religious literalist Democrat nuttjob and I'll give you ten Republican ones.

    I see it all the time.
    You're taking a few instances and using it as justification to use a broad brush on a large group of people. There's a word for that.

    It's fine to oppose specific legislation. I oppose some specific right-wing social legislation.

    And Paul Ryan saying that Rand influenced him automatically makes him indistinguishable from her in all beliefs? I dont think so. But jumping to that conclusion... well, there's a word for that.
    11-07-2012 09:19 AM
  19. ImmortalWarrior's Avatar
    You're taking a few instances and using it as justification to use a broad brush on a large group of people. There's a word for that.

    It's fine to oppose specific legislation. I oppose some specific right-wing social legislation.

    And Paul Ryan saying that Rand influenced him automatically makes him indistinguishable from her in all beliefs? I dont think so. But jumping to that conclusion... well, there's a word for that.

    I watched that whole video, he all but directly said he idolized everything about her, her book, and her beliefs.
    11-07-2012 09:22 AM
  20. ImmortalWarrior's Avatar
    Obama has popular vote now



    and I agree that its not prejudice if that is how that party as a whole stands on those issues. saying that republicans are "Jesus loving, gay hating, evolution rejecting idiots" is yes a bit extreme, but all the same correct. The party as a whole supports everything the bible stands for, does not approve of gay rights, and in general have a very traditional platform.

    I'm being a little callous when I say it that way, but it is unfortunately true.

    Though I give off the impression that I don't, I really do make a concerted effort to understand all aspects of both parties and I do try and give the Republicans a fist shake, but over the last 30 years they have regressed to absurdity.
    11-07-2012 09:24 AM
  21. Reflexx's Avatar
    I'm being a little callous when I say it that way, but it is unfortunately true.

    Though I give off the impression that I don't, I really do make a concerted effort to understand all aspects of both parties and I do try and give the Republicans a fist shake, but over the last 30 years they have regressed to absurdity.

    Not saying you're a bad person. But like it or not, you've bought into the narrative.

    I'm a Republican, and I'm not that different than many. But I hear all these things from the left saying things that I supposedly believe that just aren't true. Then even worse is when people think they know WHY I believe what I believe, and it's normally for some strange and outrageous reason.

    I won't try to change your mind. It is what it is. We live in a society where this kind of hate is encouraged and I'm not going to change it on a message board.

    I just hope that people take the time to think about what they're doing, and remove all the media influence. Most people really are good people with good intentions. Rich or poor. Right or left.
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    11-07-2012 09:33 AM
  22. mlm1950's Avatar
    It's not prejudice if that's what happens. Look at the Texas state platform reforms for the Republicans. They have added that they openly oppose critical thinking skills and any schools teaching things that directly.oppose beliefs. This is the Christian right imposing in opposition to the establishment clause.

    Akin and Murdock who oppose abortion in ALL cases because of their Christian beliefs.

    Kitzmiller vs Dover was the direct result of Christian Republicans.

    Paul Ryan and his love for Ayn Rand who actively opposed helping the weak and poor. This woman actually thought that the mentally retarded and handicapped should be euthanized and Ryan is on record (video) as stating she had a big influence on his life.


    I could go on. Yes there are plenty of religious Democrats but you give me one religious literalist Democrat nuttjob and I'll give you ten Republican ones.

    I see it all the time.
    That isn't true.
    11-07-2012 09:33 AM
  23. palandri's Avatar
    I don't think Republicans have gone too far to the right. Romney did win the popular vote after all.

    But the problem is that Republicans let the left define them. The left has a whole slew of derogatory stereotypes about Republicans, and for the most part they're really good at making people believe them.

    Most Republicans are mainly fiscal conservatives. That's the main commonality. However, the left would have you believe that most Republicans are racists or hate the poor or hate gays.

    The narrative works. Paint your opponent as a monster.
    Romney didn't win the popular vote. As of 5:00 a.m., Obama had a 58,720,700 (50.1%) to 56,145,950 (48.4%) lead on Mitt Romney for the popular vote.

    I think people reject a candidate that is too far left or too far right, and I think the Tea Party is hurting the Republicans.
    11-07-2012 09:34 AM
  24. Reflexx's Avatar
    Romney didn't win the popular vote. As of 5:00 a.m., Obama had a 58,720,700 (50.1%) to 56,145,950 (48.4%) lead on Mitt Romney for the popular vote.



    I think people reject a candidate that is too far left or too far right.

    Romney really isn't that far right. He's pretty squishy.

    I bet that you'll find a lot of people that think he's an evil monster that hates hates hates though.
    11-07-2012 09:36 AM
  25. berty6294's Avatar
    I'm being a little callous when I say it that way, but it is unfortunately true.

    Though I give off the impression that I don't, I really do make a concerted effort to understand all aspects of both parties and I do try and give the Republicans a fist shake, but over the last 30 years they have regressed to absurdity.
    exactly, being the first year I can legally vote, I went into this election completely open minded and I spent a lot of time studying both candidates as well as my local questions and was completely undecided until the last week.

    I will say though, off the bat I like what Ron Paul was saying more than Romney and Obama (except his pro-life stuff). I'm not a registered republican though so I couldn't do anything about that.
    11-07-2012 09:39 AM
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