01-15-2013 11:28 PM
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  1. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    Hi all

    I think it incredible what there pushing in CES I was just expecting an improvement performance and graphics shock to me when I read about Samsung Octa 8 processor exynos 5250.

    Which I think it 75% better performance then the previous exynos chip with it being more energy saving.

    The 8 cores is divided in half: four main cores are based on the A15 architecture, the other four cores are based on A7 architecture

    This will have ARM big.LITTLE technology this is what make it power efficient and the four cores based on the A7 architecture.

    Thoughts, opinions or views
    01-11-2013 05:40 PM
  2. MAkhdar's Avatar
    It is really amazing but I believe they need to work on making them as efficient as possible and as optimized as possible. There also needs to be applications that can draw from this power and do something useful with it.
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    01-11-2013 06:44 PM
  3. jdevenberg's Avatar
    It is really amazing but I believe they need to work on making them as efficient as possible and as optimized as possible. There also needs to be applications that can draw from this power and do something useful with it.
    Yes and no. One huge advantage of this is that multiple apps optimized for multi-core could run at once without sharing cores. I like the idea of having two different core sizes. One more powerful set for when you need it and one set of low power for when you don't.
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    01-11-2013 07:53 PM
  4. Steephill's Avatar
    I'd rather have a super efficient dual core than a octo core that's efficient, but doesnt get as much battery life as a dual core because it still has more cores. I'd like to be able to go 3 days or something off one battery charge
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    01-11-2013 11:16 PM
  5. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    It would be good to hear about an amazing battery that can last for over a week and doesn't matter what you do with it such as playing game, internet etc.

    Companies need to focus more on the battery side then go crazy with CPU, GPU etc later on.
    01-12-2013 11:02 AM
  6. ammarmalik2011's Avatar
    I'd rather have a super efficient dual core than a octo core that's efficient, but doesnt get as much battery life as a dual core because it still has more cores. I'd like to be able to go 3 days or something off one battery charge
    There needs to be a breakthrough in battery technology for that to happen. SoC's are just about as efficient as they can get. It's the old battery tech that's holding things back. Just look at what Motorola did with the RAZR MAXX.
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    01-12-2013 11:09 AM
  7. Saint Michael's Avatar
    Gimmick, we don't need that much power inn our current phones. Plenti of examples where dual core beats quad core already. Smartphones are already over powered and undersupplied with battery life
    01-12-2013 11:14 AM
  8. Coreldan's Avatar
    Well, even computers havnt really properly jumped into 8 cores yet. They are available, but a very few things can properly utilize it for it's full strength. Intel's quad-cores are still one of the strongest CPUs out there for your average customer :D
    Last edited by Coreldan; 01-12-2013 at 12:12 PM.
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    01-12-2013 11:15 AM
  9. ammarmalik2011's Avatar
    Gimmick, we don't need that much power inn our current phones. Plenti of examples where dual core beats quad core already. Smartphones are already over powered and undersupplied with battery life
    Are you complaining about too much power?
    01-12-2013 12:30 PM
  10. Saint Michael's Avatar
    Are you complaining about too much power?
    iPhone 5's dual core beats out the gs3's quad core every time in my experience. And it's less power hungry, being only a dual core. So yes, until we see bigger and bader batteries. We don't need more power in our phones. Heck. I don't understand why we would need 4. As per what it needs to be used for. I see no speed gains, the gs3 isimply don't Impress. Although being the only quad core phone I've used. That's my opinion
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    01-12-2013 02:53 PM
  11. jdevenberg's Avatar
    Gimmick, we don't need that much power inn our current phones. Plenti of examples where dual core beats quad core already. Smartphones are already over powered and undersupplied with battery life
    iPhone 5's dual core beats out the gs3's quad core every time in my experience. And it's less power hungry, being only a dual core. So yes, until we see bigger and bader batteries. We don't need more power in our phones. Heck. I don't understand why we would need 4. As per what it needs to be used for. I see no speed gains, the gs3 isimply don't Impress. Although being the only quad core phone I've used. That's my opinion
    Comparing phones on two different OS's isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison (no pun intended). As far as dual core beating quad core, yes the SnapDragon S4 dual core beats many quad core processors, but this was largely because the S4 was base on a Qualcomm proprietary chip architecture, Krait, which has much more in common with the newer ARM-Cortex A15 than the older Cortex A9 that competing quad core chips, such as the Tegra 3 quad core chip, were using. When you compare a dual core S4 vs. a quad core S4, the quad core will preform better if all other things are equal, and when we start seeing Cortex A15 based quad core chips, they will be more in line with the Qualcomm Krait based chips.
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    01-12-2013 05:53 PM
  12. Saint Michael's Avatar
    So put the current Lumia 920 on a octal core chipset. Will it be noticeably better? Or will the 2000m batteries be killed off much faster? Or both? Will the speed gains be great enough to compensate for the battery drain?
    01-12-2013 11:49 PM
  13. MikeMystery's Avatar
    So put the current Lumia 920 on a octal core chipset. Will it be noticeably better? Or will the 2000m batteries be killed off much faster? Or both? Will the speed gains be great enough to compensate for the battery drain?
    I don't really see speed gains ever being able to compensate for battery drain in a phone.
    01-14-2013 03:28 AM
  14. Coolknight1968's Avatar
    Android needs all the cores it can get as at its core it seems to be a cheap copy of Vista...
    My HTC OneXplus with 4.1.1 is no where near as fluid as my HTC 8X with WP8...
    Sure, Android is very capable, but it is SLOW... jerky... not stable.
    I had one reboot on my 8X since I have it, before Portico... Android, even with all the latest updates... 1 Reboot a week is the norm.
    Last edited by Coolknight1968; 01-16-2013 at 06:21 PM.
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    01-14-2013 05:22 AM
  15. SnailUK's Avatar
    So put the current Lumia 920 on a octal core chipset. Will it be noticeably better? Or will the 2000m batteries be killed off much faster? Or both? Will the speed gains be great enough to compensate for the battery drain?
    Doubt it.

    You'd need to be doing > 2 things at the same time (not really possible on WP8), or have intensive applications with code written for multiple cores.
    01-14-2013 06:22 AM
  16. Marcin Winkowski's Avatar
    Cortex A15 are eating to much energy (they're not to efficient, worse than clover trails chips from intel) and are really warm. Thats why in idle/simple tasks they switch to a7 cores. And its not 8 core chip, but 4 core (becouse we will not use all cores at the same time only 4 a15 or 4 a7).
    01-14-2013 07:56 AM
  17. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    Your app will start even before u start it.
    :P

    GIVE US Air bags with every Octa Core Phone I SAY!!!


    Sent from my DROID RaZr.
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    01-14-2013 08:00 AM
  18. travisel's Avatar
    By September all WP8.5 will use Quad Core Snapdragon 800 SOC Processors!

    http://www.qualcomm.com/media/blog/2...ssors-unveiled

    So you will see Nokia Lumia 940 & Samsung ATIV S2, etc etc...all with these new Snapdragon 800 processors 9 months from now! Also you will see:
    - 2GB RAM
    - 64GB on board flash memory
    - 5"+ 1080p Displays'
    - 3000mAh+ Battery's
    - 128GB micoSD Cards
    - Wi-Fi ac support

    This is all coming 9 month's from now to Windows Phone 8.5 platform. ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    01-14-2013 09:25 AM
  19. CaptDjob's Avatar
    I would be amazed if someone could show me even one application that can fully use todays 4-core capabilities (except games).
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    01-14-2013 09:31 AM
  20. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    I would be amazed if someone could show me even one application that can fully use todays 4-core capabilities (except games).
    You said it man..u said it..

    Sent from my DROID RaZr.
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    01-14-2013 09:38 AM
  21. gsquared's Avatar
    I would be amazed if someone could show me even one application that can fully use todays 4-core capabilities (except games).
    +1

    I would rather see code optimization before the release of new hardware to support inefficient coding.
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    01-14-2013 09:47 AM
  22. jdevenberg's Avatar
    I would be amazed if someone could show me even one application that can fully use todays 4-core capabilities (except games).
    You said it man..u said it..

    Sent from my DROID RaZr.
    Like I said, its not about one application using all four (or eight) cores. Its about more apps having one or more cores available that they don't have to share. That's where the real benefit of quad/octo core.
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    01-14-2013 01:29 PM
  23. EssThree's Avatar
    Even quad core processors is an exciting prospect to me. We're almost getting to the point where mobile phones stomp on dedicated game machines in terms of power, and that's just mind blowing. I love Nintendo, I really do, but there's no way in heck they can keep competing the way they are. Subsidised phones makes it easy for people to jump on a platform with a lower mental barrier for entry. I really didn't need a WP8 device, but I got one since my contract was up.

    Meanwhile I'm still waiting on picking up that 3DS I've been thinking about for ages.
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    01-15-2013 08:24 AM
  24. Coreldan's Avatar
    By September all WP8.5 will use Quad Core Snapdragon 800 SOC Processors!

    Snapdragon 800 Series and 600 Processors Unveiled | Qualcomm

    So you will see Nokia Lumia 940 & Samsung ATIV S2, etc etc...all with these new Snapdragon 800 processors 9 months from now! Also you will see:
    - 2GB RAM
    - 64GB on board flash memory
    - 5"+ 1080p Displays'
    - 3000mAh+ Battery's
    - 128GB micoSD Cards
    - Wi-Fi ac support

    This is all coming 9 month's from now to Windows Phone 8.5 platform. ๏˜Ž
    I sure hope 5" screens won't go mainstream. I want my phones to be high end as I buy them, but even 4,5" is almos pushing it for me. That said, I know that L920 has lots of bezel in ratio to screen size, but not all bezel is bad cos it allows you to hold the phone easier without touching the screen.

    So basically I hope that in 2 years time when I buy my new phone, I dont have to go at least much bigger than 4,5". My hand doesnt grow in the same ratio.
    01-15-2013 09:57 AM
  25. travisel's Avatar
    I believe 5" 1080p is 2013 mainstream display for Samsung! I think LG and Sharp have 5" 1080p display's coming?
    I also here there is 6" 1080p displays coming! Can you say Note3....
    My brother has the Note2 5.5" 720p I think it's too big for me.....I have the ATIV S with 4.8" 720p display feel's just right but maybe could get away with the new 5" 1080p display ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    Windows Phone 8 has no support for 1080p display yet! Maybe they will add support for 1080p in the upcoming WP8.1 sometime in March?
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    01-15-2013 07:01 PM
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