[Dazzi]

Did you hear the news everyone, there is a Black president so that means there is no more racism in the US!!!11! WOOO!!

I think you have misunderstood what they are saying. It's because the race baiters have jumped on the bandwagon, which has blown this whole story out of proportion.

Furthermore, racism will never stop, because some people will always believe what they want believe.

However, racism is a two way street -- that's human nature, to not like others because they look different from others. It doesn't matter what colour the girl is, she had done wrong (please read my previous post, to get what I'm on about).

[jaj324]

Did you hear the news everyone, there is a Black president so that means there is no more racism in the US!!!11! WOOO!!

No, that means that in spite of obstacles, which every race faces, anyone can succeed. The excuse that your failures are due to someone else's prejudice is no longer valid. I realize that this scares the crap out of some but it is what it is. If you're not where you want to be in life you must own it. The only person you can blame is the one in the mirror.
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[Dazzi]

Racism does not exist anymore for god sake. But dam me if this thread isn't enough proof that reverse racism exists! (I know that's technically still just racism, but I'm sure you know what I mean)

Racism does exist, you only have go through Google to see. But my point is, racism isn't only against black people. Racism exists in every colour of people, and that's a fact -- you can't change how some ignorant people think -- I just hate when people blame racism for their own stupid actions.

[Dazzi]

No, that means that in spite of obstacles, which every race faces, anyone can succeed. The excuse that your failures are due to someone else's prejudice is no longer valid. I realize that this scares the crap out of some but it is what it is. If you're not where you want to be in life you must own it. The only person you can blame is the one in the mirror.
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So true -- Barrack Obama and many other successful black people are living proof.

Furthermore, if the girl in question is so bright, and she wanted to be a scientist. Then surely she must of known her actions 'might' jeopardise her future (especially with all the school shootings that have happened, and also the Boston Bomber).

Therefore, she is only to blame, no-one else.

[berty6294]

Racism does exist, you only have go through Google to see. But my point is, racism isn't only against black people. Racism exists in every colour of people, and that's a fact -- you can't change how some ignorant people think -- I just hate when people blame racism for their own stupid actions.

Every person is a victim of racial jokes and stuff like that, but imo, and ill probably get some hate for this, the only race that is truly suffering from racism is Caucasian. When other races do something it is in pride, when Caucasians do something it is ignorant and racist. Scholarship for being black? Why isn't there one for being white? Is there a White History month? Why is it socially acceptable for a Black person to use particular words that a white person cant? There's thousands of problems like this that I have with our society.

I've never, with my eyes, seen a minority get treated poorly because of their race, but I can't count how many times I've seen a Caucasian person harmed or neglected because he's white. It's not a two way street, because the Caucasian race is the least racist group in existence.

[squire777]

No, that means that in spite of obstacles, which every race faces, anyone can succeed. The excuse that your failures are due to someone else's prejudice is no longer valid. I realize that this scares the crap out of some but it is what it is. If you're not where you want to be in life you must own it. The only person you can blame is the one in the mirror.
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That's a very myopic and naive view, especially if you're living in the US. Just because there are successful people from a particular race, doesn't mean that others from that race don't face prejudices in their daily lives. A black person in the south of the US may not have the same privileges as one in say NY or California does. There are still many double standards that minorities face in the education system, job hiring processes, access to social welfare programs, legal system etc. Yes some are able to make it out of their bad situations, but others who try are not successful because of reasons outside of their power.

I am sure if this girl was a blonde, blue eyed, straight A student there would be a lot more sympathy for her.

Anyway reading these types of discussions online about the US, and garbage like "reverse racism" make me glad I don't live in that country.

[squire777]

Every person is a victim of racial jokes and stuff like that, but imo, and ill probably get some hate for this, the only race that is truly suffering from racism is Caucasian. When other races do something it is in pride, when Caucasians do something it is ignorant and racist. Scholarship for being black? Why isn't there one for being white? Is there a White History month? Why is it socially acceptable for a Black person to use particular words that a white person cant? There's thousands of problems like this that I have with our society.

I've never, with my eyes, seen a minority get treated poorly because of their race, but I can't count how many times I've seen a Caucasian person harmed or neglected because he's white. It's not a two way street, because the Caucasian race is the least racist group in existence.

lol you can't be serious! The fact that you need an explanation for black history month, or scholarships for black students is quite laughable.

you poor thing, you

[Sharpmango]

Its such a shame that in this thread no one has mentioned that racial minorities are disportionately criminalised in the American legal system. America has over five million people in the criminal justice system, the majority are non white. These figures are far above any other nation in the world. America has a quarter of the worlds prisoners. End this madness please and treat your minorities like human beings.

[Dazzi]

Every person is a victim of racial jokes and stuff like that, but imo, and ill probably get some hate for this, the only race that is truly suffering from racism is Caucasian. When other races do something it is in pride, when Caucasians do something it is ignorant and racist. Scholarship for being black? Why isn't there one for being white? Is there a White History month? Why is it socially acceptable for a Black person to use particular words that a white person cant? There's thousands of problems like this that I have with our society.

I've never, with my eyes, seen a minority get treated poorly because of their race, but I can't count how many times I've seen a Caucasian person harmed or neglected because he's white. It's not a two way street, because the Caucasian race is the least racist group in existence.

I appreciate your point of view, and here in the UK things are similar for Caucasians, Blacks and Asians.

However, I'm not on about numbers, my point is, racism still exists in all colours. And some colours shout louder than others -- it shouldn't be this way, as we are all human beings.

[berty6294]

That's a very myopic and naive view, especially if you're living in the US. Just because there are successful people from a particular race, doesn't mean that others from that race don't face prejudices in their daily lives. A black person in the south of the US may not have the same privileges as one in say NY or California does. There are still many double standards that minorities face in the education system, job hiring processes, access to social welfare programs, legal system etc. Yes some are able to make it out of their bad situations, but others who try are not successful because of reasons outside of their power.

I am sure if this girl was a blonde, blue eyed, straight A student there would be a lot more sympathy for her.

Anyway reading these types of discussions online about the US, and garbage like "reverse racism" make me glad I don't live in that country.

Clearly you're not from the US. People get hired here SPECIFICALLY because they are a minority. You think the southern part of the US is more prejudice than the north? When was the last time you visited the US? Some of the most culturally diverse cities are in the south. You my friend, don't have a clue how American society is.

[Dazzi]

That's a very myopic and naive view, especially if you're living in the US. Just because there are successful people from a particular race, doesn't mean that others from that race don't face prejudices in their daily lives. A black person in the south of the US may not have the same privileges as one in say NY or California does. There are still many double standards that minorities face in the education system, job hiring processes, access to social welfare programs, legal system etc. Yes some are able to make it out of their bad situations, but others who try are not successful because of reasons outside of their power.

I am sure if this girl was a blonde, blue eyed, straight A student there would be a lot more sympathy for her.

Anyway reading these types of discussions online about the US, and garbage like "reverse racism" make me glad I don't live in that country.

Have you ever been the US, especially the South?

[berty6294]

Its such a shame that in this thread no one has mentioned that racial minorities are disportionately criminalised in the American legal system. America has over five million people in the criminal justice system, the majority are non white. These figures are far above any other nation in the world. America has a quarter of the worlds prisoners. End this madness please and treat your minorities like human beings.

The US is also one of the more diverse countries.

[squire777]

I have some white friends who live in Texas, Louisiana and Missouri (not exactly the south) who have all told me about how minorities get treated down their and it isn't exactly positive the way they describe it. They themselves admit how backwards some people in their parts of the country are.

And this thread has given me some more clues about how American society is :thumbsup:

But yeah America is a great place where people never get discriminated based on their race, culture, religion or financial status. USA USA USA!

[berty6294]

I have some white friends who live in Texas, Louisiana and Missouri (not exactly the south) who have all told me about how minorities get treated down their and it isn't exactly positive the way they describe it. They themselves admit how backwards some people in their parts of the country are.

And this thread has given me some more clues about how American society is :thumbsup:

But yeah America is a great place where people never get discriminated based on their race, culture, religion or financial status. USA USA USA!

Lmao when was the last time you've talked to them, the 50's?

[Dazzi]

I have some white friends who live in Texas, Louisiana and Missouri (not exactly the south) who have all told me about how minorities get treated down their and it isn't exactly positive the way they describe it. They themselves admit how backwards some people in their parts of the country are.

And this thread has given me some more clues about how American society is :thumbsup:

But yeah America is a great place where people never get discriminated based on their race, culture, religion or financial status. USA USA USA!

So what you're really saying is, you've never been to the states?

Do you mind me asking which country you are from?

[Sharpmango]

The US is also one of the more diverse countries.

diverse? Russia is diverse enough to have actual republics within its borders. It is diverse enough to even have a Buddhist republic in Europe. 25% of births in UK r too foreign born mothers. Germany has more foreign born people as a percentage of its people than the US. The usa has severe structural and societal problems which give rise to its incredibly high incarceration rates. That is a massive problem. And ofc i haven't even mentioned the torture that takes place in some American prisons or the fact some people are imprisoned without trial. Foreign born people again mainly. It is sad.

[berty6294]

diverse? Russia is diverse enough to have actual republics within its borders. It is diverse enough to even have a Buddhist republic in Europe. 25% of births in UK r too foreign born mothers. Germany has more foreign born people as a percentage of its people than the US. The usa has severe structural and societal problems which give rise to its incredibly high incarceration rates. That is a massive problem. And ofc i haven't even mentioned the torture that takes place in some American prisons or the fact some people are imprisoned without trial. Foreign born people again mainly. It is sad.

Ya, except none of the ethnic groups in Russia mix. They stay separated for most parts. I'm talking you walk outside and ever other person is of a different ethnic group.

And idk where you guys are getting your information, you make America sound like some kind of barbaric place! lol

[mlm1950]

You know what they say about the race card players...

I don't.

[FinancialP]

I don't.

That they're usually the racist ones or have absolutely no other argument.

[jaj324]

I have some white friends who live in Texas, Louisiana and Missouri (not exactly the south) who have all told me about how minorities get treated down their and it isn't exactly positive the way they describe it. They themselves admit how backwards some people in their parts of the country are.

And this thread has given me some more clues about how American society is :thumbsup:

But yeah America is a great place where people never get discriminated based on their race, culture, religion or financial status. USA USA USA!

It sounds like you have the wrong kind of friends.

[mase123987]

Its such a shame that in this thread no one has mentioned that racial minorities are disportionately criminalised in the American legal system. America has over five million people in the criminal justice system, the majority are non white. These figures are far above any other nation in the world. America has a quarter of the worlds prisoners. End this madness please and treat your minorities like human beings.

First off, I don't know the exact numbers so I won't comment on exact numbers.

You have to think past the numbers in front of your face. There are many factors to any situation. For instance, let's say that half the population is white and half is black. Given that a higher percentage of the black population is poor (which is true), you would expect more blacks to be in jail than whites. Poor communities (no matter what the race) tend to have higher crime rates. Higher crime rates in a certain area means more police coverage in the given area. More police coverage means a higher percentage is caught.

Point is, situations are a lot more complicated than they appear.

[MDboyz]

.... I am disgusting on your race card ...

[FinancialP]

First off, I don't know the exact numbers so I won't comment on exact numbers.

You have to think past the numbers in front of your face. There are many factors to any situation. For instance, let's say that half the population is white and half is black. Given that a higher percentage of the black population is poor (which is true), you would expect more blacks to be in jail than whites. Poor communities (no matter what the race) tend to have higher crime rates. Higher crime rates in a certain area means more police coverage in the given area. More police coverage means a higher percentage is caught.

Point is, situations are a lot more complicated than they appear.

Some of your stuff is backwards, there is a higher percentage of poor Caucasians than blacks, as evidenced by more Caucasians with welfare, food stamps and other governmental assistance claims.

I agree with you though

[mase123987]

Some of your stuff is backwards, there is a higher percentage of poor Caucasians than blacks, as evidenced by more Caucasians with welfare, food stamps and other governmental assistance claims.

I agree with you though

No, a higher percentage of blacks are poor. There might be more whites on welfare but that would be because there are more white people overall. Not really important but

[Curtieson]

Just some numbers I got from Bing. Found this:

With regard to AFDC the figures are:

White 38.8%
Black 39.8
Hispanic 15.7
Asian 2.4
other 3.3

To break down these numbers, we look at how many Whites are in the population as a WHOLE. If Blacks make up less 14% of the population and are almost 40% of all receipients, then they represent about 2.5 times their actual population. Since Whites are over 50% of the total US pop., they represent less than their overall piece of the pie, population-wise. Hispanics are at least 15% of the general population, so they take only about as much as what their population represents. Why am I writing this? Because I am tired of the misrepresentations on this issue. I read so many on here claiming that more Whites are on welfare than Blacks (true, in terms of raw numbers), yet not accounting for the fact that there are over 4X as many Whites in this country than Blacks! In statistics, you cannot go by mere numbers. Only if the playing field is exactly equal, which is rarely is! This thread was started, not to be racist, but to keep it real. After all, there are some legitimate reasons for Blacks to be on welfare more than Whites. But the worst thing anyone can do is be in denial.

The post is from 2007 so obviously things have shifted since then, but it should give you a rough edge to follow.

This is census 2010.

Total population	308,745,538	100.0
Hispanic or Latino	50,477,594	16.3
White	196,817,552	63.7
Black	37,685,848	12.2
Asian	14,465,124	4.7