1. Chregu's Avatar
    Adobe just introduced a subscription model, they won't touch the Windows 8 Marketplace, except for the dumped down versions of their programs.
    10-02-2013 04:38 AM
  2. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I just can't imagine any complex software being touch friendly. The software I use for cloning has so many options and settings that are needed, I don't see how this could work with Metro (Real Metro, not the Office 2013 Metro). Also other examples like Photoshop or AutoCAD with a lot of options that also need a high accuracy in using them.
    We have 3D software here that runs on a database backbone, no way would that ever be touch. The complexity of using the software completely negates touch.
    10-02-2013 04:38 AM
  3. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Adobe just introduced a subscription model, they won't touch the Windows 8 Marketplace, except for the dumped down versions of their programs.
    That's the same on any 'tablet'. There's no full version of any Adobe software on any tablet.
    10-02-2013 04:39 AM
  4. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    As for the subscription service it's still ridiculously expensive. I'd love to know how they justify the cost. I feel the same about ACAD and other industry software. The costs are way out there and there's usually very little to the 'updates' to justify the costs.
    10-02-2013 04:40 AM
  5. Chief_Adu's Avatar
    Looking at your signature, I really have to wonder: Were phones before 2010 just so much better that you could keep them for years?

    Nokia 3310 for two years, the whatever phone for 3 years, and then you suddenly went through all those Windows Phones in a very short period of time.

    Personally I had always a very high turn-over rate (also partially due to the fact, that my indestructible Lumia 800 fell onto the ground once and it was broken). But my 8X I want to keep another year.
    Good question!

    I kept the non-smartphones for a couple of years because I almost did nothing with them. I received calls rarely and I was happy to receive one SMS in a week.

    In 2012, I received the HTC Trophy from my dad and it was revolutionary. I never had a smartphone before. I used it a couple of months, but I heard and saw positive reviews about WP8, so I gave it a shot with the low-end Huawei W1. It was a nice phone, but it doesn't has some features that I wanted, so I was looking for a mid/high-end phone. The HTC 8X had an amazing deal last month so I bought it.

    I hope I was clear, haha.
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    10-02-2013 04:40 AM
  6. Chregu's Avatar
    That's the same on any 'tablet'. There's no full version of any Adobe software on any tablet.
    I was just imagining a Windows 9 that doesn't allow desktop applications on a computer and how Adobe would like that (or not). And how I don't see Adobe releasing their productive programs in the Marketplace (for desktop, not for tablets).
    10-02-2013 04:41 AM
  7. Chief_Adu's Avatar
    Who are 'they' and where do we find 'them'.... we need new blood...
    Haha, some ambassadors and moderators in my introduction thread :)
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    10-02-2013 04:41 AM
  8. Chregu's Avatar
    As for the subscription service it's still ridiculously expensive. I'd love to know how they justify the cost. I feel the same about ACAD and other industry software. The costs are way out there and there's usually very little to the 'updates' to justify the costs.
    I always thought this is because usually companies pay for them...
    10-02-2013 04:42 AM
  9. Chregu's Avatar
    Good question!

    I kept the non-smartphones for a couple of years because I almost did nothing with them. I received calls rarely and I was happy to receive one SMS in a week.

    In 2012, I received the HTC Trophy from my dad and it was revolutionary. I never had a smartphone before. I used it a couple of months, but I heard and saw positive reviews about WP8, so I gave it a shot with the low-end Huawei W1. It was a nice phone, but it doesn't has some features that I wanted, so I was looking for a mid/high-end phone. The HTC 8X had an amazing deal last month so I bought it.

    I hope I was clear, haha.
    That makes a lot of sense :)
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    10-02-2013 04:43 AM
  10. Chregu's Avatar
    Due to the lapse in government funding, PubMed is being maintained with minimal staffing. Information will be updated to the extent possible, and the agency will attempt to respond to urgent operational inquiries.

    Updates regarding government operating status and resumption of normal operations can be found at USA.gov: The U.S. Government's Official Web Portal
    I didn't think this crisis would affect me directly...
    10-02-2013 04:45 AM
  11. martinmc78's Avatar
    As for the subscription service it's still ridiculously expensive. I'd love to know how they justify the cost. I feel the same about ACAD and other industry software. The costs are way out there and there's usually very little to the 'updates' to justify the costs.
    To be fair autodesk have massively reduced their prices this year - instead of paying 3K - 4K per package you now pay 4K for a suite that includes 5 or 6 different and complimentary packages
    10-02-2013 04:47 AM
  12. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Haha, some ambassadors and moderators in my introduction thread :)
    We're being slagged! Sheesh... you'd think we were loony here and ... wait a second...
    10-02-2013 04:50 AM
  13. Chregu's Avatar
    We're being slagged! Sheesh... you'd think we were loony here and ... wait a second...
    Slagged must be some kind of slang, as the translation doesn't make a lot of sense. I think I get it from the context, as I don't think we produce aluminum in this thread, do we?
    10-02-2013 04:52 AM
  14. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    To be fair autodesk have massively reduced their prices this year - instead of paying 3K - 4K per package you now pay 4K for a suite that includes 5 or 6 different and complimentary packages
    I haven't looked at their latest prices. I rarely even seen AutoCAD lately. I use it when I can. I wonder if they're scared of losing customers. More and more companies are dropping ACAD and even Microstation in favor of BIM packages.
    10-02-2013 04:53 AM
  15. martinmc78's Avatar
    Slagged must be some kind of slang, as the translation doesn't make a lot of sense. I think I get it from the context, as I don't think we produce aluminum in this thread, do we?
    What if we were Ored?
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    10-02-2013 04:53 AM
  16. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I didn't think this crisis would affect me directly...
    Is it? If so that's some far reaching consequences.
    10-02-2013 04:53 AM
  17. martinmc78's Avatar
    I haven't looked at their latest prices. I rarely even seen AutoCAD lately. I use it when I can. I wonder if they're scared of losing customers. More and more companies are dropping ACAD and even Microstation in favor of BIM packages.
    That's one of the reasons why they have done it - they now call them BIM suites and you just pick your poison for your chosen industry
    10-02-2013 04:55 AM
  18. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Slagged must be some kind of slang, as the translation doesn't make a lot of sense. I think I get it from the context, as I don't think we produce aluminum in this thread, do we?
    We should try harder, aluminium can't be that hard to produce. :P

    Would 'Smeared' work better?
    10-02-2013 04:55 AM
  19. Chregu's Avatar
    Is it? If so that's some far reaching consequences.
    Well, I use PubMed every day. It's not like I don't find what I'm looking for anymore, but the warning still surprised me. It seems I'm more dependent on the American government than I thought...
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    10-02-2013 04:56 AM
  20. Chregu's Avatar
    We should try harder, aluminium can't be that hard to produce. :P

    Would 'Smeared' work better?
    I think the best thing to do for me is to have lunch now... ;-)
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    10-02-2013 04:56 AM
  21. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    They told me to never visit this thread... I couldn't resist @_@
    Hahaha they were right!
    10-02-2013 04:58 AM
  22. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    We should try harder, aluminium can't be that hard to produce. :P

    Would 'Smeared' work better?
    Titanium is super awesomeness!!!
    10-02-2013 04:59 AM
  23. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Hahaha they were right!
    I think they were worried he'd get sucked into it and never return to 'normal' life again... :P
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    10-02-2013 05:03 AM
  24. martinmc78's Avatar
    We should try harder, aluminium can't be that hard to produce. :P

    Would 'Smeared' work better?
    How about 'besmirched' ?
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    10-02-2013 05:05 AM
  25. BIGPADDY's Avatar
    I think they were worried he'd get sucked into it and never return to 'normal' life again... :P
    He would be fine, I haven't been out the house since I started this thread!
    10-02-2013 05:11 AM
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