1. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    The accessory market for the iPhone is nuts. I have seen people literally change cases to match their outfits.

    You're correct about that point though, I find that interesting myself from what I have noticed with the female YouTubers I follow. A lot of them have the plus iPhone (I'll even say that most, if not all of them, have that size). Interestingly enough, offline, my girl friends (and coworkers) who have iPhones have the regular sized one or a small one. I only know two ladies who have the Plus.
    And you'll often see women with the plus sized iPhone have the Apple watch as well. It's a fair mix as I see a lot of ladies with the 4" model still. The case scene is really nuts indeed, and I cannot blame a woman for have cases to match outfits (cannot change anything else on the phone). The closest thing I can do with that is the watchbands for my smart watches. Even then I've got a small number of bands and in simpler colors.
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    And you'll often see women with the plus sized iPhone have the Apple watch as well. It's a fair mix as I see a lot of ladies with the 4" model still. The case scene is really nuts indeed, and I cannot blame a woman for have cases to match outfits (cannot change anything else on the phone). The closest thing I can do with that is the watchbands for my smart watches. Even then I've got a small number of bands and in simpler colors.
    Nice! Hmm, that's a good point about the Apple watch too. I get the watchband thing though, because that's a nice touch. My brother-in-law is enjoying switching bands from what I can see.

    The case thing though is too much for me. As a reformed (lol - don't know about that, just for now, my hand is forced at the moment) chronic switcher, I couldn't imagine having many cases to give up when I'm done. I see it as a waste of funds...and not practical for me.
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    07-10-2017 09:23 AM
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    The DAC on this V20 hits the spot though. I didn't have to fiddle with the volume of the phone with the DAC enabled at all...things were loud and sound was still quite rich while riding the meat grinder that is MTA subways.
    Ooh that sounds like a sweet experience.
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    07-10-2017 09:24 AM
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    So before I head back into to move around a few AC units and cook, let me waste a half hour messing with the V20's camera doing some test shots.
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    07-10-2017 09:35 AM
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    So before I head back into to move around a few AC units and cook, let me waste a half hour messing with the V20's camera doing some test shots.
    Please do. I'm curious on your thoughts about the camera experience.
    07-10-2017 09:47 AM
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    Gravity fed systems require no assistance to convey. A perfect example is hot water systems used in hotels and other non-residential applications. A common setup in use is to have a rooftop boiler in conjunction with a collection tank. The boiler feeds primary hot water via the boosted domestic cold water system but there is a recirculation system that keeps hot water available instantly. That line is routed to a solar-powered collection tank and returns hot water back into the system. This keeps the boilers at bay until the demand increases and they fire up again. The water coming from the collector is purely gravity fed and in fact, pressure reducing stations are placed every 7-8 floors on the way down. The recirculation pumps are barely enough to keep the system flowing and do not factor in pressure calcs.
    I know better than to comment on a system I don't know anything about. I think I get the concept going by your explanation.

    I am familiar with mains water systems as I've done a couple of water projects. Pump stations, reverse osmosis, waste water.

    When it comes to mains water there's little that can be done to go uphill and maintain a flow aside from using a pump. That much I know.
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    07-10-2017 09:50 AM
  7. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Please do. I'm curious on your thoughts about the camera experience.
    The versatile nature of LG's dual camera setup makes using the V20 loads of fun. But you NEED a second swappable battery. For instance, I killed my Z3 in Miami when I was taking shots on the say we did the bus tour...to the point where the camera shut off after getting super hot under the abuse. I don't feel any throttling issues so far, but the battery life is draining like an open faucet.

    Had a similar experience with the XL, but I knew with the chip differences I'd have to be more selective and shoot in bursts. Feel like I need a Gimbel or at minimum a tripod for sure.

    Will take some shots of Grand Central and post those as well.
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    07-10-2017 10:12 AM
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    I know better than to comment on a system I don't know anything about. I think I get the concept going by your explanation.

    I am familiar with mains water systems as I've done a couple of water projects. Pump stations, reverse osmosis, waste water.

    When it comes to mains water there's little that can be done to go uphill and maintain a flow aside from using a pump. That much I know.
    Mother Nature helps on the way down only. Going up you lose 3.8psi for every 10' of rise.
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    07-10-2017 10:34 AM
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    This was a fun exercise indeed. It was very interesting to see how manual mode handled darker scenes. Not sure if it was the pre production software, but folks will see what I mean...
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    This is Grand Central station main hallway. The top two are auto mode (regular, wide angle)...the bottom two are manual mode with ISO 800 (regular, wide angle).
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    07-10-2017 12:14 PM
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    All the daylight shots were taken in manual mode on default settings. The first round of shots were taken at Times Square...all shots were taken with regular and wide angle.
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    Overall, I liked testing out the V20's camera. Manual mode seems to be where it's at to get things done. I know the Grand Central shots were grainy inside, but I think that there is still enough detail to edit from.

    There were some shots that I really liked but the camera kept blowing out the highlights and you couldn't see the clouds. But when you did, camera is very good. I'm curious to see how it runs on the latest software, so I'll try to flash it this week.

    I'm supposed to catch up with one of my mentors who is visiting in town for her birthday at a group event so I'll take the V20 along for sure.
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    07-10-2017 01:08 PM
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    All the daylight shots were taken in manual mode on default settings. The first round of shots were taken at Times Square...all shots were taken with regular and wide angle.
    Wow! Seems like a solid camera.
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    07-10-2017 01:09 PM
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    Yes, I'm in a chatting mood this morning. Waiting in a doctor's office will do that to you (everything is good on my end).
    I'm glad you're doing well and it's just routine.
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    This is Grand Central station main hallway. The top two are auto mode (regular, wide angle)...the bottom two are manual mode with ISO 800 (regular, wide angle).
    Those pictures are all great.
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    07-10-2017 01:25 PM
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    Still curious about the LG Q6. I don't have my hopes set very high but I am a fan of the general idea of the Q6.
    07-10-2017 02:57 PM
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    Still curious about the LG Q6. I don't have my hopes set very high but I am a fan of the general idea of the Q6.
    *sigh*
    07-10-2017 03:27 PM
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    Those pictures are all great.
    Thanks. It was really fun testing this camera out. Gonna have to see if I can update the software without rooting it.
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