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  1. Carib1964's Avatar
    With even Microsoft trying to make an impact into the smartphone world with Windows Phone, and BlackBerry's outlook looking less than brilliant, launching a new phone with an entirely new operating system might seem like a risky decision. What are your thoughts?

    11-29-2013 01:19 PM
  2. Jas00555's Avatar
    My thoughts are that you copied that from this CNET article

    http://m.cnet.com/reviews/jolla/35823733
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    11-29-2013 01:25 PM
  3. Carib1964's Avatar
    Yes and I'm sure that there are a few people on this forum that do not visit Cnet's web site and may be interested in this.
    11-29-2013 01:29 PM
  4. Jas00555's Avatar
    Haha I'm not saying that some people don't read CNET, but I thought it was funny that you basically copy/pasted the first paragraph from the article.
    11-29-2013 01:36 PM
  5. Carib1964's Avatar
    Saves time.
    11-29-2013 01:38 PM
  6. Coreldan's Avatar
    As it's a company based in Finland, I obviously hope for all the best for it. I also thought Meego and N9 were pretty sweet but didn't get a proper chance before being killed off.

    However I think the mobile phone business is very cut throat, and I'm not sure if launching a new OS (especially with really.. nothing to go with in the past) is gonna work all that well. I guess if Samsung would ditch Android for their Tizen.. that might make people look for an alternative..
    WanderingTraveler likes this.
    11-29-2013 02:37 PM
  7. Anilu7's Avatar
    I've heard that it's a pretty slick OS. I'd love to see it in action.
    11-30-2013 06:05 PM
  8. snowmutt's Avatar
    I am all in on competition, but as I have rambled on about for several times on similar threads: What can possibly be the bar for success for a company with limited funds, near zero support, and trying to get a market to try something new? MS has tossed billions at WP, and is still scratching at the 10% marketshare goal.

    I have watched several videos on Sailfish OS. All I can say is that it is a grid-based OS, just like Android and iOS, that has a neat organizational idea for open apps.

    WP is different. BB10 is different. Ubuntu I haven't seen yet.

    Sailfish, Tizen, and Firefox OS's just seem too similar. What is the appeal? It is the same basis as Andriod and iOS, just without the apps?

    Combined, these OS's might cracked 2%-3% by the end of 2014 mid 2015. Would that be enough to keep a couple of them alive??
    iamtim likes this.
    11-30-2013 06:14 PM
  9. AV2RY's Avatar
    I watched few videos on mynokiablog about jolla and honestly did not like it at all.. Way too much swiping left-right, up-down. And I didnot understand what "he" was trying to do/show
    11-30-2013 06:22 PM
  10. Qtweeder's Avatar
    cant wait for mine, paid in full the other day, am a long time user of the n9 before my l920, and i miss the swipe interface something rotten!
    11-30-2013 06:27 PM
  11. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    I want them to succeed. Gives (former) Nokia fans (and Tomi Ahonen) a reason to be happy.

    What I'm not a fan of is how far they've deviated from the original Swipe UI. Now, that was the epitome of user-friendly.

    Sent from my Lumia 620 using Tapatalk
    11-30-2013 06:29 PM
  12. patrickwee's Avatar
    Don't think this new platform can survive ,despite it has a great first impression .
    12-01-2013 11:58 AM
  13. gsquared's Avatar
    It won't survive. What else besides an OS do they have?

    Apps - No
    Ecosystem - No
    Existing customer base - No

    That's just the software side. Don't even want to go down the hardware path.
    12-01-2013 05:31 PM
  14. Qtweeder's Avatar
    gsquared have you even done your homework before such a slanted and misinformed comment?!

    apps, core apps provided by sailfish for all basics
    apps, all android apps.

    ecosystem: jolla and android

    existing customer base: just anyone with an android phone, you can eventually install sailfish on their device. not to mention nokia n950 / n9's and the jolla units themselves

    hardware, well it has the unique other half, which will provide all manners of hardware add-ons, inductive charging, extra batteries, better camera, hardware keyboard etc etc
    12-01-2013 05:54 PM
  15. fatclue_98's Avatar
    cant wait for mine, paid in full the other day, am a long time user of the n9 before my l920, and i miss the swipe interface something rotten!
    I'll wait for your thoughts/comments. I'm a webOS refugee and I miss swipes too.
    12-01-2013 06:04 PM
  16. Reflexx's Avatar
    I expect that they hope to get some old school Nokia loyalists that hate MS. Maybe it will be enough to keep them going for a year or two.

    I bet the real goal is to just to get noticed enough for a bigger company to buy them out.
    12-01-2013 06:29 PM
  17. Jas00555's Avatar
    I expect that they hope to get some old school Nokia loyalists that hate MS.
    DJCBS will be their first customer
    12-01-2013 07:09 PM
  18. iamtim's Avatar
    gsquared have you even done your homework before such a slanted and misinformed comment?!
    I'm pretty sure he did. I did, and I agree with him.

    apps, core apps provided by sailfish for all basics
    Core apps are, of course, not the apps to which he was referring. Were that the case, WP8 would never have been tagged with "not enough apps" as all the core apps are provided by WP8 itself.


    apps, all android apps.

    ecosystem: jolla and android
    So... what's the point? Why would anyone buy into a new, untrusted platform to gain Android compatibility when they could, I dunno, just buy an Android phone?

    existing customer base: just anyone with an android phone, you can eventually install sailfish on their device.
    You mean a fraction of anyone with an Android phone, right? The majority of Android phone users just buy the phone, download a few apps, and use it. The majority won't root their phones, much less install a completely different OS on it.

    hardware, well it has the unique other half, which will provide all manners of hardware add-ons, inductive charging, extra batteries, better camera, hardware keyboard
    And no existing Android manufacturer is going to release spec-matching or exceeding hardware, right? Because none of them have, or could possibly ever have, inductive charging, extra batteries, a better camera, or a hardware keyboard, right?
    12-01-2013 07:09 PM
  19. scottcraft's Avatar
    I've got an android phone I'd like to try sailfish on when it's available. I don't think it will be more than a niche platform at best though.
    12-01-2013 07:45 PM
  20. tissotti's Avatar
    Can't wait for mine to arrive! :D Should be here tomorrow. To me Nokia's Swipe UI is the best mobile UI ever done, so naturally I had to get its follow up.
    Some of the Maemo purists are not too happy about the inclusion of Android app support, but personally after N900 and N9 I have no problem with that at all.

    Most likely my Lumia 920 will remain as my main phone and Jolla will be my play around/secondary phone. Time will tell.
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    12-10-2013 11:39 AM
  21. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Can't wait for mine to arrive! :D Should be here tomorrow. To me Nokia's Swipe UI is the best mobile UI ever done, so naturally I had to get its follow up.
    Some of the Maemo purists are not too happy about the inclusion of Android app support, but personally after N900 and N9 I have no problem with that at all.

    Most likely my Lumia 920 will remain as my main phone and Jolla will be my play around/secondary phone. Time will tell.
    Can't wait to read about your "first impressions". Never tried Meego but it seems similar to webOS.
    12-10-2013 03:09 PM
  22. tissotti's Avatar
    Can't wait to read about your "first impressions". Never tried Meego but it seems similar to webOS.
    Sorry I haven't been too active here for the past months.

    I have been enjoying the phone quite a bit. Loving to get back to truly controlling what's happening on the device after a bit over a year of only iOS and WP devices. Also fully gesture based UI, like Nokia's MeeGo Swipe UI is so refreshing once again.
    Though just like with N9, Lumia 800 or Z10 I would not recommend it to a friend. Even with that surprisingly seamless Android app support, getting example Google Play Store installed to your Jolla is not as easy as just finding package somewhere and installing it. I knew this buying the OS and device, but your average smartphone user would not bother.

    As a negative for something I was not expecting has been that battery life is very poor. Something you haven't seen since the iPhone 3GS, Droid, N900 etc 65nm single core days. In a heavy use you should get by till evening, but what's especially bad is that just on standby the battery might not last the whole day. Reason for this is that Jolla had to change the SoC from ST-Ericsson chip in June to Qualcomm after ST-Ericsson got in to trouble. Resulting in less than optimal time to do optimization on battery life. Thankfully Jolla has reported that because of this software updates will improve this.

    Last edited by tissotti; 12-22-2013 at 09:27 AM.
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    12-21-2013 07:25 AM
  23. Qtweeder's Avatar
    the battery life issue, is being worked on, apparently partly relating to some NFC power drain, a bug of sorts, which should be fixed eventually. liking mine a lot, even though the new update is un-downloadable atm, due to server overload :(
    tissotti likes this.
    12-27-2013 09:48 AM
  24. radmanvr's Avatar
    its it pronounced jolla or holla
    12-27-2013 09:59 AM
  25. Qtweeder's Avatar
    its it pronounced jolla or holla
    pronounced yolla
    12-27-2013 10:50 AM
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