06-21-2018 08:04 AM
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  1. fantasy122's Avatar
    This is an article written by Google Translator, so please understand.

    I think Microsoft should take over Spotify.
    Microsoft has now closed its music business, Groove Music.
    Zune Music, Xbox Music, and Groove Music have fewer supported countries and no family plans.
    It was a terrible service.
    But Spotify is in service in 65 countries, at least more than Groove Music.
    Spotify has family plans and student discounts, and there are apps in the Microsoft Store.
    Microsoft's mobile business has been ruined, but Satya Nadella, CEO, is still launching a variety of Microsoft apps on Android and iOS.
    If you buy Spotify, you can compete with Apple Music at once.
    Google's YouTube Music can also be exceeded.
    I think Microsoft should re-enter the music business.
    I wonder what other people think.

    Again, using Google Translator may not be sufficient for expression.
    06-07-2018 10:12 AM
  2. Vivio vrvly's Avatar
    They should do a lot more than that. Still waiting for any of that.
    06-10-2018 07:11 AM
  3. Vellios's Avatar
    They should do a lot more than that. Still waiting for any of that.
    Yeah, me too.
    06-13-2018 03:06 PM
  4. xandros9's Avatar
    It's not that they want or need a presence in music, it's that they do not want it at all so acquiring Spotify won't really do much for them.
    06-13-2018 06:40 PM
  5. reomw's Avatar
    This is an article written by Google Translator, so please understand.

    I think Microsoft should take over Spotify.
    Microsoft has now closed its music business, Groove Music.
    Zune Music, Xbox Music, and Groove Music have fewer supported countries and no family plans.
    It was a terrible service.
    But Spotify is in service in 65 countries, at least more than Groove Music.
    Spotify has family plans and student discounts, and there are apps in the Microsoft Store.
    Microsoft's mobile business has been ruined, but Satya Nadella, CEO, is still launching a variety of Microsoft apps on Android and iOS.
    If you buy Spotify, you can compete with Apple Music at once.
    Google's YouTube Music can also be exceeded.
    I think Microsoft should re-enter the music business.
    I wonder what other people think.

    Again, using Google Translator may not be sufficient for expression.
    Nooooo. Please God no! I am not one of these morons that claim Microsoft ruins everything they buy. Exactly the opposite. I dont give a damn about Spotify, despite being an user and actually like it a lot. I just fully understand Satyas agenda turning Microsoft into a developer tools company and caring about productivity and creativity. Being a tool maker and the best business (yes ms is b2b MOSTLY, with the exceptions of Xbox and movies and video). I think MS should stay away from consumer cheesy crap like entertainment like others. What's next - producing tv shows like Apple and Amazon? No.
    Ironworker16 likes this.
    06-20-2018 09:35 AM
  6. DontBeEvil10's Avatar
    This is an article written by Google Translator, so please understand.

    I think Microsoft should take over Spotify.
    Microsoft has now closed its music business, Groove Music.
    Zune Music, Xbox Music, and Groove Music have fewer supported countries and no family plans.
    It was a terrible service.
    But Spotify is in service in 65 countries, at least more than Groove Music.
    Spotify has family plans and student discounts, and there are apps in the Microsoft Store.
    Microsoft's mobile business has been ruined, but Satya Nadella, CEO, is still launching a variety of Microsoft apps on Android and iOS.
    If you buy Spotify, you can compete with Apple Music at once.
    Google's YouTube Music can also be exceeded.
    I think Microsoft should re-enter the music business.
    I wonder what other people think.

    Again, using Google Translator may not be sufficient for expression.
    yes
    06-20-2018 10:03 AM
  7. ryanlrobinson's Avatar
    Nah, I don't see enough value in it. There's not even that much money in streaming music services - it's hard to break even selling unlimited streaming for $10 a month and needing to give the music distributors their cut and all the costs to maintain it. So the only argument is "every OS needs their own music service", which... does it really, or does it just need to be able to access them?

    Just partner with them, help them make really good quality Windows apps. No need to own them.
    06-20-2018 10:04 AM
  8. Brian Mueller's Avatar
    This only makes sense if they go all in on entertainment. If they bought Spotify, they should also buy Netflix then bundle them together with Xbox game pass. This would give a lot of value to the consumer. They could also morph mixer into a YouTube competitor as well and bundle in services like one drive storage and ad free email. Of course if they did this, they would still have to support all other platforms and still allow them to be subscribed to separately.
    Hirox K and Richard Toft like this.
    06-20-2018 10:47 AM
  9. mwright53's Avatar
    Sure, since they did such a good job with Groove.
    06-20-2018 10:54 AM
  10. Hirox K's Avatar
    I'm with ryanlrobinson and Brian.
    They don't need to own'em. Just need to help'em with Win10 and Xbox integration. If they felt the need to own it, then go all in and bundle other services together, take down the market once and for all. (It's a hard road cause "monopoly"?, govs and existing dealers will want to have a word with MS for sure.)
    06-20-2018 11:01 AM
  11. slavrenz's Avatar
    Just to echo what others have said, Spotify would die, or at least lose its competitiveness like Skype, if Microsoft buys it
    06-20-2018 11:38 AM
  12. Duke Nukem1's Avatar
    Groove was vastly superior to Spotify, looked cleaner, better navigation, better exploration of similar music, etc. The margins in streaming music are razor thin and Spotify has nothing to prevent a competitor with deep pockets from moving in and kicking its butt.
    Tiny Funk and Richard Toft like this.
    06-20-2018 11:59 AM
  13. Gerarbara's Avatar
    They will only make a mess of it.
    Mister Wolf and sniperboywc like this.
    06-20-2018 12:06 PM
  14. Derek Rolling Thunder's Avatar
    Yes they should! Bring back the Groove (Zune) interface with true OneDrive support for offline files platform agnostic.
    06-20-2018 12:12 PM
  15. randyoaks187's Avatar
    I think it would make sense if they also bought Sonos as well. That would be a solid foothold for Cortana to become a true Siri, Alexa, Ok Google competitor. And that's what the long game is about.
    Tiny Funk likes this.
    06-20-2018 12:49 PM
  16. Mister Wolf's Avatar
    No, they'd f**k it up.
    06-20-2018 12:50 PM
  17. George Karapetyan's Avatar
    with expected losses of over 230 million only in 2018 ( official from Spotofy q1 results) and no strong foothold of microsoft in the consumer business, this does not make mich sense. google or apple go into music business as they have the phone users. although apple and googke dont make much money out of this business anyway. googles end game is to keep u invested in the android platform and apple wants to keep u in its own ecosystem. this info flows into their digital assistants, and opens doors for other offerings. but microsoft is heavily invested in productivity. of their vision is to empower people to do more and achieve more, i dont see how entertainment business fots into this. they stopped groove just for that reason. not because its not making money buy because they could let partnerships fill in the gap and focus( invest) in productivity. so far its worked very well for microsoft . this focus and Nadella's strategy has trippled the share price. 2014 one share cost 28 usd now its almost 90 usd. what microsoft could do asa protection, is to buy 15% or however much it is necessary to not allow a "Domination and Profit and Loss Transfer Agreement" to make sure that google, amazon or another big player doesnt caquire spotify.
    06-20-2018 01:03 PM
  18. BanditoTR's Avatar
    It wouldn't. They already had Groove and gave up on it, why bother. I would only buy it if Google decided to buy it considering their track record with not putting they're apps in other ecosystems
    ad47uk likes this.
    06-20-2018 01:12 PM
  19. gegenfunf's Avatar
    I don't think they should buy it, but they should integrate it into Groove. That app was so much better than the Spotify app.
    06-20-2018 01:27 PM
  20. ad47uk's Avatar
    I am a premium user of spotify, if MS took over Spotify I would drop it like a stone, simple as that.
    06-20-2018 01:44 PM
  21. DRDiver's Avatar
    It's a pipe dream if anyone really thinks Microsoft might consider acquiring Spotify. Microsoft has made it clear they're more interested in the Enterprise. As for my house, we streamed our music from OneDrive via Groove. NOBODY makes a streaming service that meets our needs, not even Groove, outside of our own music. The only other reason we used Groove was because we could purchase new music directly and immediately add it to our library. Nothing provides this particular combination for us. So, acquiring Spotify may be perfectly fine for the rest of you, but it adds no value for us.
    06-20-2018 02:00 PM
  22. camaroz1985's Avatar
    I don't want them to acquire it, but I would like to see a partnership. I know they pushed Spotify as a way to ease the transition at the end of Groove Music Pass, but I would like to see something like Apple Music's match to automatically make your music stored on OneDrive available in your Spotify library. I have read of work arounds to make this happen, but I'm not willing to mess with that. I am willing to pay a monthly fee to have access to their library as well as my purchased music on all devices though. I pay for SiriusXM now, and would gladly drop that in favor of Spotify if OneDrive integration or match was made available.
    06-20-2018 02:06 PM
  23. QuietNine's Avatar
    Problem 1: Spotify isn't profitable.

    Microsoft should only acquire Spotify if Microsoft has some way to make it profitable. It's *possible* that with a distributed cloud service like Azure, Microsoft running the streaming "at cost" for Spotify could turn it profitable, but thats very, very unlikely. If you look into what is keeping Spotify in the red, its the heavy weight their free users on their operations. Microsoft probably can't do much to fix that.

    Problem 2: Spotify has competition that may be better suited to acquisition.

    Pandora on the other hand, while it has a smaller userbase, has a much larger "install base" than Spotify, and is profitable because they have a better subscription to user ratio. Smaller userbase also likely means it would cost less to acquire them.

    Theres also pros and cons to the two services, most obviously, Pandora's "Radio" feature is awesome thanks to music genome while Spotify's constantly plays the cheapest songs and makes no real effort to "learn what you like"; but Spotify also has a much, much larger library to draw from for users who like to make their own playlists, while Pandora users can only make playlists if they subscribe, and are limited to Pandoras smaller library.

    Problem 3: "Whats in it for Microsoft?"

    Seriously. What does Microsoft gain from owning Spotify (or a competitor like Pandora thats actually profitable)? Currently, you can use Spotify or Pandora on Xbox, Microsoft Store PC app, or the web. Generally, a purchase like this would be made to secure support for a currently unsupported platform, or to block support of a competitors platform (eg the reasons why Google buying Waze were to kill off Microsoft support and block Apple from having an easy path forward in navigation).

    Considering Microsoft is supported by Spotify on every platform, and considering there is no platform where "platform exclusivity" would help Microsoft (no one will drop PS4 or MacOS just because Spotify [or any other music service] became exclusive), I dont really see any reason at all for Microsoft to gobble up a music company. Also keep in mind that killing off support for competitors is somewhat against the current ethos of "go where the customers are".

    The only scenario where owning a music service makes sense is one where Microsoft needs to ensure they have one (getting back into mobile or something). And I dont think that is a realistic scenario.
    Great Bear likes this.
    06-20-2018 02:39 PM
  24. nsu300zx's Avatar
    Make it a part of Gold.
    06-20-2018 02:47 PM
  25. Pairadyce's Avatar
    Only if they incorporate the OneDrive music feature, otherwise... no. Spotify does not sell music, so I do not see Microsoft as highly interested in entering only the streaming market, when that is probably 80% of the reason they dropped the music offerings. I wondered why they didn't just continue to sell music but probably was because of music's continued declining sales and the subscriptions to justify.
    Richard Toft likes this.
    06-20-2018 02:48 PM
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