09-26-2011 02:02 AM
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  1. wizake's Avatar
    Too bad I haven't checked the firmware before I flashed the ROM. Maybe I also got an update of firmware along with Mango.
    I think the backup Zune made was before it applied the NoDo update. (I got the phone about a month ago, and it found the update the minute I connected it to the computer).
    Do I need NoDo in order to apply "Mango"?
    09-21-2011 05:06 PM
  2. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    I'm not 100% sure wizake it just looks to me by the website that it checks for NoDo before allowing any update.

    This is what it says...

    'During the official Windows Phone 7.5 update process, every Windows Phone will also receive software from the handset manufacturer. This matched and paired firmware has been painstakingly tuned so your phone—and apps—work with all the new features of Windows Phone 7.5. Since your phone requires the proper firmware to function as designed, my advice is simple: steer clear of bootleg updates and homebrew tools'

    Make of that what you will wizake.

    It may still update Mango only if you have the same firmware, not sure.
    09-21-2011 05:10 PM
  3. wizake's Avatar
    thanks. I'll see what happens when the update starts rolling out
    Not sure how will I know since, probably, Zune wont notify me.
    09-21-2011 05:13 PM
  4. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    thanks. I'll see what happens when the update starts rolling out
    Not sure how will I know since, probably, Zune wont notify me.
    Yes, just have to wait and see what happens when the Mango switch is pulled. :)
    09-21-2011 05:17 PM
  5. astroXP's Avatar
    About time!!!
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    09-21-2011 08:16 PM
  6. Winterfang's Avatar
    Hurray, can't wait for my Mango =)
    09-21-2011 08:44 PM
  7. jfa1's Avatar
    well whether we can or we cant wait we have to to ensure that we get it!
    09-21-2011 10:35 PM
  8. Pronk's Avatar
    One thing I do wonder: why did Vodafone say they were starting rollout this week, then get directly contradicted by Microsoft, then go quiet? I wouldn't call the launch a trainwreck, but that - on top of the leaked info that the 15th was the original go date - does suggest things really haven't gone to plan.

    I get the impression almost everyone is ready, but *someone* isn't and keeps stalling, and that someone is what's holding everything and everyone else back. And the timeframe one or two weeks to the start of rollout with the emphasis on start is - if you think about it - very vague; barely more informative than "it hasn't happened already". It could be any time from a week to, well, whenever, as they can claim that rollout has "started" but that it's still in a non-release phase. So I'm not sure why everyone is excited now and thinks it's coming, as MS actually haven't given us any more information than we already knew other than it won't be this week.

    Regardless, I hope whoever is dragging their heels - and I don't think it's Microsoft themselves, but they obviously have enough clout to get Microsoft to hold back - gets their act together.
    09-22-2011 04:14 AM
  9. Joene90's Avatar
    You're right that it is very vague, but this is much clearer than the first official announcement that said Fall 2011. If it's not here in two weeks, we have something to complain about, more than a rumour.
    09-22-2011 05:32 AM
  10. Pronk's Avatar
    You're right that it is very vague, but this is much clearer than the first official announcement that said Fall 2011. If it's not here in two weeks, we have something to complain about, more than a rumour.
    Well, not really. The Windows blog said "one to two weeks" and then the emphasis was very much made to say that that would only be to the start of the rollout. So they could say even after three weeks that rollout has started internally but no carriers are releasing yet. What they've essentially done is just defused any more rumour issues by making it official that there's no set date and it's still just "Fall". Maybe sooner rather than later, but I think we all expected that anyway and didn't see this stretching into the end of November.

    In the meantime, as I have an unlocked and unbranded euro Mozart I'm seriously considering using the leaked HTC final mango rom. Other than having to do a bit of tinkering I don't see what I have to lose, as it's only what I'll be getting eventually anyway.
    09-22-2011 05:51 AM
  11. Big Supes's Avatar
    According to O2, it's actually going to be released within the next couple of weeks. . .

    "Anyone for Mango? The latest version of Windows Phone 7 is coming in the next couple of weeks - watch out for more info soon"
    09-22-2011 05:53 AM
  12. Dave Blake's Avatar
    I think Microsoft is trying to get as many partners ready as possible then have a bunch of device updates roll out at the same time.

    Sent from my T7575 using Board Express
    09-22-2011 06:41 AM
  13. SirHaxalot's Avatar
    I would just like to point out the possibly significant fact that my operator (Three) says that they won't begin to test Mango until October, and that they expect that process to take two weeks.

    Microsoft will however hopefully not wait for carriers that are late for the party now, and it's relatively easy to fake a debranded phone to the updating service :D
    09-22-2011 06:53 AM
  14. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    and it's relatively easy to fake a debranded phone to the updating service :D
    Emailing 3 Sweden this instant, informing them of your evil plans...



    Dear 3 Sweden... ;)
    Last edited by TheWeeBear; 09-22-2011 at 07:08 AM.
    09-22-2011 07:01 AM
  15. Big Supes's Avatar
    I would just like to point out the possibly significant fact that my operator (Three) says that they won't begin to test Mango until October, and that they expect that process to take two weeks.

    Microsoft will however hopefully not wait for carriers that are late for the party now, and it's relatively easy to fake a debranded phone to the updating service :D
    What possible reason do they have for stalling the process so much? They've been sat on Mango for God knows how long now and they haven't even started testing?!
    09-22-2011 08:12 AM
  16. Pronk's Avatar
    Well given a couple of providers have now said they're starting rollout in a few days, in direct contradiction to what Microsoft said, I think we can pretty safely say that no one seems to know what's going on with mango now!
    09-22-2011 08:52 AM
  17. selfcreation's Avatar
    Well given a couple of providers have now said they're starting rollout in a few days, in direct contradiction to what Microsoft said, I think we can pretty safely say that no one seems to know what's going on with mango now!
    Im willing to bet we are gona get mango next week..... the reason i say that

    like you said *most carriers are ready and have been announcing the roll out to come out in few dayz*

    and i think MS said in a week or 2 , because knowing MS and the delays ,, they probly played it safe incase something happens..

    but everything looks to be going smooth so im expecting it by next week. But then again i haven’t herd ANY news from MY carrier ( ROGERS ) so maybe not lol.
    09-22-2011 09:05 AM
  18. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    That's 3 UK tweeted now about their release of Mango in the next couple of weeks.

    European carriers certainly seem to be leading the way with Mango announcements. :)
    09-22-2011 10:41 AM
  19. theefman's Avatar
    Well given a couple of providers have now said they're starting rollout in a few days, in direct contradiction to what Microsoft said, I think we can pretty safely say that no one seems to know what's going on with mango now!
    Probably thinking of early next week, which falls perfectly within the period MS has stated. Doubtful we'll see any weekend launches, not typical to roll out updates when support is minimal.

    That's 3 UK tweeted now about their release of Mango in the next couple of weeks.

    European carriers certainly seem to be leading the way with Mango announcements. :)
    The silence from the US carriers is deafening, apart from at&t. Sure sign to me of their overall lack of support for WP7. Which is why even though I'm on T-mo and am actually against them being bought out by att, I advise people to switch if the coverage is the same. No point sticking with a carrier that wont give you a decent selection of devices running the OS you want.
    09-22-2011 11:04 AM
  20. wp7outlaw's Avatar
    It could seem to be that verizon are the mo-fo's that are delaying our precious Mango goodness...


    Microsoft will be updating its "Where's my phone update?" page, just as it did with the NoDo update and some of the smaller subsequent patches. Some of those took weeks and months on some carriers to pass the testing phase and actually become available to their users. There is a separate page for those in the United States and international areas. Neither page shows Mango just yet, but the U.S. page does show Verizon still hasn't pushed out 7392, released in early May, yet. Way to go Big Red
    09-22-2011 04:44 PM
  21. jfa1's Avatar
    It could seem to be that verizon are the mo-fo's that are delaying our precious Mango goodness...


    Microsoft will be updating its "Where's my phone update?" page, just as it did with the NoDo update and some of the smaller subsequent patches. Some of those took weeks and months on some carriers to pass the testing phase and actually become available to their users. There is a separate page for those in the United States and international areas. Neither page shows Mango just yet, but the U.S. page does show Verizon still hasn't pushed out 7392, released in early May, yet. Way to go Big Red
    VZN and ATT for the focus .3 have to rollout 7392 and Mango updates as carriers can delay only one update. ATT has said they will be among the first to roll out Mango so I expect that they get it out within the next two weeks but they will start with the quantum and go a bit slower with the fucus and if that is going well speed it up.
    09-22-2011 05:56 PM
  22. Apoc's Avatar
    Just wondering, for the folks that have unlocked devices, does anyone have any idea when Mango will be released for us?
    09-23-2011 12:57 AM
  23. DarkSynopsis's Avatar
    Just wondering, for the folks that have unlocked devices, does anyone have any idea when Mango will be released for us?
    Would be great to know this not seen any dates so far :(
    09-23-2011 01:09 AM
  24. Apoc's Avatar
    Would be great to know this not seen any dates so far :(
    I'm wondering if it will be in Zune Marketplace software updates or if the device manufactuer(samsung) will have the updates on their sites. I will have to bother Samsung for some info until I can get an answer.
    09-23-2011 01:11 AM
  25. cckgz4's Avatar
    So Pronk are you satisfied now?
    09-23-2011 02:10 AM
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