05-13-2014 09:01 PM
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  1. Morado's Avatar
    there is a strong argument to stick with android if you are deeply entrenched in it, simply if for no other reason than the amount of money you may have spent on apps and games, however if the OP is considering a OS switch than it should be noted that there is going to be a learning curve regardless of OS he/she switch's too, your example of turning on/off data indicates your lack of understanding of the OS and how to use it, which is normal if you just switched, ( your sign up date for WPC is today ) i wonder just how long you have had your phone and what effort you have made to learn how to use it, you might want to try all the resources available to you and ask more questions here in the forums to get a better feel for your device before you make blanket statements to someone else about something you clearly dont understand, these forums are a great place to learn about your phone, and us old timers generally love to help the new comers, in short, relax, take a breath, ASK SOME QUESTIONS, or else someone is going to call you out for the troll you make yourself SOUND like
    Rest assured I am not trolling, so no need for your rage (i.e. save your indignation for more important things). I have been a frequent visitor of these fora and those at androidcentral, but never posted. I was simply responding to someone who seemed to me to be hesitant about jumping to another OS and responded from my perspective as a someone who recently bought a WP and how I feel about it two weeks on. Given that other, more "expert" opinion-givers had contributed opinions on the frustrations of Android users when moving to WP, I thought it was fair for me to convey my thoughts as a new comer, but it would seem I am wrong as per the tone of your writing.
    12-05-2013 06:49 AM
  2. tgp's Avatar
    There's an app for that.... *coughs*
    Yes that's correct, but there are 2 issues with having an app for that:

    1. You shouldn't need an app for that. I hear all the time that "one of the beauties of WP is that everything is built in and you don't need apps." I think that this argument is sometimes used as a defense for not having a lot of apps available.
    2. The app doesn't toggle the setting. It only takes you to the setting. So it's still 2 taps. And that's only if the app happens to be visible at the time you decide to use it.
    Last edited by tgp; 12-05-2013 at 07:34 AM.
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    12-05-2013 07:17 AM
  3. techiez's Avatar
    12-05-2013 07:19 AM
  4. broar94's Avatar
    Since you're using Google services, i think its best you stick with Android. WP is something different.
    12-05-2013 07:24 AM
  5. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Yes that's correct, but there are 2 issues with having an app for that:

    1. You shouldn't need an app for that. I hear all the time that "one of the beauties of WP is that everything is built in and you don't need apps." I think that this argument is sometimes used as a defense for not having a lot of apps available.
    2. The app doesn't toggle the setting. It only takes you to the setting. So it's still 2 taps. And that's only if the app happens to be visible at the time you decide to use it.
    I didn't say it was a good thing just that it wasn't as complex as the person was indicating. Yes I know there are certain things that are pretty lame on WP.
    cckgz4 likes this.
    12-05-2013 07:40 AM
  6. stripeyfox's Avatar
    Speaking as someone who has recently made the switch from Android to Windows (from an S3 to a Nokia 625), I can make the following comments.

    On the whole, I am pleased with the phone. Most of the apps I used regularly are available and the one or two I miss are in development I believe. I suppose I have the best of both worlds as I also have a Nexus tablet to mop up my Android needs.

    I don’t know whether it is phone or OS related, but the battery life on the Nokia is awesome. The S3 would need charging every night and very often would be down to 30% or less by mid afternoon but the Nokia is still typically at 65% by the same time.

    There are a couple of bugbears – and the switching wifi on and off is one of them but overall I am happy. It will be interesting in 18 months time when I am next up for a renewal to see which way I go. I have a pretty open mind about it although it would seem to me to be a straight fight between Android and Windows.
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    12-05-2013 08:45 AM
  7. DBZo07's Avatar
    Same here mate.. Ditto

    Sent from Tapatalk Lumia 625 GDR3
    12-05-2013 09:54 AM
  8. sym1a1a's Avatar
    Rest assured I am not trolling, so no need for your rage (i.e. save your indignation for more important things). I have been a frequent visitor of these fora and those at androidcentral, but never posted. I was simply responding to someone who seemed to me to be hesitant about jumping to another OS and responded from my perspective as a someone who recently bought a WP and how I feel about it two weeks on. Given that other, more "expert" opinion-givers had contributed opinions on the frustrations of Android users when moving to WP, I thought it was fair for me to convey my thoughts as a new comer, but it would seem I am wrong as per the tone of your writing.
    two things here, 1-no rage was intended or implied, if you felt that way, it was in your mind, not in my comment, it is always interesting to see how someone interprets written text, however having said that i do offer an apology if you deem one is owed, 2- it is fair for you to convey your thoughts, my only point is you seemed frustrated with your phone and not to well informed on how to use it to maximize your enjoyment with it, and i pointed out that if you would seek help their are plenty of people here that are more than willing to help you, rather than just sitting their and allowing it to spoil the experience. i did not at any time state that you WERE trolling, i said you run the risk of sounding like a troll, 3- (ok so i have 3 points lol ) just like when one is in school, you can sit through all the classes in the world and listen all you want ( " i have been a frequent visitor of the forums" ) but if you dont understand something and ask no Questions you will never learn no matter how much you listen, that was my point when i said ask some questions, like i said relax, take a breath ask some questions and maybe, just maybe we can help you enjoy your phone ( please note, just to be clear, i say that with a smile on my face and a happy, happy tone in my voice ) there is no such thing as a perfect OS, no such thing as one size fits all, it may turn out that WP is not for you and Android or IOS is more suitable for your likes and needs, but... you have already purchased a WP, so why not seek help on the things that are irritating you and at least see if others can ease your frustrations, either way good luck on which ever direction you end up going
    daikku, cckgz4 and neo158 like this.
    12-05-2013 10:17 AM
  9. MikeSo's Avatar
    Yes that's correct, but there are 2 issues with having an app for that:

    1. You shouldn't need an app for that. I hear all the time that "one of the beauties of WP is that everything is built in and you don't need apps." I think that this argument is sometimes used as a defense for not having a lot of apps available.
    2. The app doesn't toggle the setting. It only takes you to the setting. So it's still 2 taps. And that's only if the app happens to be visible at the time you decide to use it.
    YES! The handling of the basic network settings in WP is infuriating. You should be able to click on the symbol in the "system tray" or whatever that thing on top is called and that should immediately bring up the setting. That's how it works in Windows! I don't understand why WP has buried these things so deep in the settings.
    Morado likes this.
    12-05-2013 10:48 AM
  10. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    I didn't get to read all of the posts in this thread, but there is an app made by Microsoft that shows which of your Android apps are on windows phone, or have equivalent versions. It also backups your videos and pictures to skydrive. Only reason it has awful reviews is because Android fans hate it. :P

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...tchtowp8&hl=en
    12-05-2013 03:11 PM
  11. Guytronic's Avatar
    Well the more users that swtich the more popular apps and developers will pay better attention to the WP.
    Just do both and migrate over time.
    daikku and anon(7900571) like this.
    12-05-2013 03:14 PM
  12. chezm's Avatar
    Rest assured I am not trolling, so no need for your rage (i.e. save your indignation for more important things). I have been a frequent visitor of these fora and those at androidcentral, but never posted. I was simply responding to someone who seemed to me to be hesitant about jumping to another OS and responded from my perspective as a someone who recently bought a WP and how I feel about it two weeks on. Given that other, more "expert" opinion-givers had contributed opinions on the frustrations of Android users when moving to WP, I thought it was fair for me to convey my thoughts as a new comer, but it would seem I am wrong as per the tone of your writing.
    " I find it even dumber and less useful than iPhone. For example, to enable or disable mobile data, I have to do four clicks (vs. one on Android) and the mobile data button is not in a sensible location in the settings."

    I think its statements like the above that give the impression your input is bias more than anything. Much like Androids shortcuts, WP has multiple avaliable shortcut options via the store for download...much like A LOT of Android tools. It's fine if you purchased a WP and didn't prefer the experience, im sure people like the OP respect your feedback...but its how you present your argument that dictates how others perceive you...on a Windows Phone forum.
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    12-05-2013 03:31 PM
  13. OzRob's Avatar
    Much like Androids shortcuts, WP has multiple avaliable shortcut options via the store for download...much like A LOT of Android tools.
    But as far as I know WP8 does not allow any app or shortcut to directly switch mobile data on and off. All the shortcuts does is take you to the settings page where you then turn mobile data on or off. So I'd say it's quite different to Android, where apps can interact directly with phone settings. Or can WP8 do this?

    To me this is the biggest drawback of WP8. The inability to do any sort of automation with regard to settings (eg. timed silent periods, location-aware switching of settings) makes the phone feel like a fairly 'dumb' smart phone.
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    12-05-2013 04:14 PM
  14. MikeSo's Avatar
    " I find it even dumber and less useful than iPhone. For example, to enable or disable mobile data, I have to do four clicks (vs. one on Android) and the mobile data button is not in a sensible location in the settings."

    I think its statements like the above that give the impression your input is bias more than anything. Much like Androids shortcuts, WP has multiple avaliable shortcut options via the store for download...much like A LOT of Android tools. It's fine if you purchased a WP and didn't prefer the experience, im sure people like the OP respect your feedback...but its how you present your argument that dictates how others perceive you...on a Windows Phone forum.
    In the respect of toggles and settings, it's not like Android at all, more like iPhone. You can literally turn off WiFi and other things with one click in Android. No 3rd party app will let you do it in WP, unless you first close the app you're in, go to the start screen, locate the app, open the app, and flip the switch. In android, the same thing would be flick open the system tray, and flip the switch.

    For WiFi etc it's not a big issue, but the rotation lock absolutely would benefit from this.

    There's just no way around that Android is better IN THIS ASPECT than WP. I hope WP8.1 fixes this.
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    12-05-2013 05:01 PM
  15. ntice_521's Avatar
    WP is much more like ios than android. It's a tightly locked down system with no custimization allowed. Android can be whatever you want it to be, WP you have to take (or reject) as it comes.
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    12-05-2013 06:40 PM
  16. daikku's Avatar
    Pocket File Manager will allow you to work with most cloud storage including Box, Dropbox, Skydrive, Google Drive, etc.

    NextGen Reader works well with Feedly, so does Phonly.
    Oh my.. thanks for this post. Especially that app, Pocket File Manager. Now things are getting clearer
    I was simply responding to someone who seemed to me to be hesitant about jumping to another OS and responded from my perspective as a someone who recently bought a WP and how I feel about it two weeks on. .
    Hesitant, I am not! I have used various devices running Microsoft's OSes before. I have sat on the idea of switching to Windows Phone since Lumia 1020 was launched. Great devices are getting out on WP platform now that I think I am getting comfortable to switch...



    there is a strong argument to stick with android if you are deeply entrenched in it, simply if for no other reason than the amount of money you may have spent on apps and games, however if the OP is considering a OS switch than it should be noted that there is going to be a learning curve regardless of OS he/she switch's too, your example of turning on/off data indicates your lack of understanding of the OS and how to use it, which is normal if you just switched, ( your sign up date for WPC is today ) i wonder just how long you have had your phone and what effort you have made to learn how to use it, you might want to try all the resources available to you and ask more questions here in the forums to get a better feel for your device before you make blanket statements to someone else about something you clearly dont understand, these forums are a great place to learn about your phone, and us old timers generally love to help the new comers, in short, relax, take a breath, ASK SOME QUESTIONS, or else someone is going to call you out for the troll you make yourself SOUND like
    Some people... well some people...
    I didn't get to read all of the posts in this thread, but there is an app made by Microsoft that shows which of your Android apps are on windows phone, or have equivalent versions. It also backups your videos and pictures to skydrive. Only reason it has awful reviews is because Android fans hate it. :P

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...tchtowp8&hl=en
    App is a waste of my precious time. Shouldn't have made it to the Google Play store

    As N_LaRUE indicates you seem to be embedded in Android.

    ... I would suggest stick to Android .


    Cheers.
    Since you're using Google services, i think its best you stick with Android. WP is something different.
    Having Android doesn't mean I cant use other OSes. I have at the same time used iOS with Google Services and there haven't been any problem. It doesn't mean I should switch to Apple services if I use iOS. Does it?
    Last edited by daikku; 12-05-2013 at 08:18 PM.
    12-05-2013 07:48 PM
  17. tgp's Avatar
    Only reason it has awful reviews is because Android fans hate it. :P[/URL]
    Did you ever use it? It earned its awful reviews, believe me! But on second thought it could be a boon for WP because it proves what kind of garbage can get into the Play Store.
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    12-05-2013 08:37 PM
  18. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    Did you ever use it? It earned its awful reviews, believe me! But on second thought it could be a boon for WP because it proves what kind of garbage can get into the Play Store.
    Yes, I did use it.
    12-05-2013 08:38 PM
  19. Jazmac's Avatar
    Welcome to Windows Phone. (when you pull the trigger) I think that if you just come over, you'll love it here and you won't miss much of android except for maybe Swype. Which isn't here yet. But it'll take a minute to get your legs under you but trust me you will just like I did when I got off android a couple years ago. I have no plans to leave Windows Phone. The experience is just too exciting.

    Let me ask, what Windows Phone did you have your eye on? What was it that moved you to come here to post this question?
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    12-05-2013 08:39 PM
  20. daikku's Avatar
    Welcome to Windows Phone. (when you pull the trigger) I think that if you just come over, you'll love it here and you won't miss much of android except for maybe Swype. Which isn't here yet. But it'll take a minute to get your legs under you but trust me you will just like I did when I got off android a couple years ago. I have no plans to leave Windows Phone. The experience is just too exciting.
    I use SwiftKey on Android on a daily - life saver! I have read that the keyboard on Windows Phone works pretty well too.

    Let me ask, what Windows Phone did you have your eye on? What was it that moved you to come here to post this question?
    I am presently thinking to buy Lumia 1520 since I like them big - hahaha LOL. On a serious note, Nokia Lumias are pretty, well designed and build quality is great. What made me post this question is the fact that there is a 6" device on Windows Phone and I am getting tired of the Android OS in so many various ways All the Android devices out there do not have such hardware design/quality that I can say makes me jump to the roof! I wanted to keep my N9 so badly when I got it but when Elop came in, I thought it's pointless to keep it; then the N9's design became what is Lumia today.

    I am also thinking I need to just have a phone that do all that I want and do not need to keep messing about with it. I did that already for several years with PCs and other Android devices. Time to start giving time to other things than... you know
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    12-05-2013 08:47 PM
  21. Optiplex330's Avatar
    As N_LaRUE indicates you seem to be embedded in Android.

    I recently bought a WP (Nokia 625) after my HTC One X died. Honestly, I only bought the WP because it was on sale and decided to try it out. I cannot highlight enough how much I regret spending money on WP. I find it even dumber and less useful than iPhone. For example, to enable or disable mobile data, I have to do four clicks (vs. one on Android) and the mobile data button is not in a sensible location in the settings.

    You probably have good reasons to consider changing. But as someone who made the mistake of buying a WP just because it was on sale, I would suggest stick to Android .

    Cheers.
    My favorite apps for that and which I put on tile is "Easy Connect". One click and it shows and allow setting on:
    1. Wifi. Also show "on" or "off" status with no further tap needed.
    2 Data. Ditto
    3. Location (GPS receiver). Ditto. Some other apps I tried didn't have Location.
    4. Buetooth
    5. Airplane
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    12-05-2013 08:53 PM
  22. hemanlive's Avatar
    I have not used Box so I cannot comment on what exactly is it that you find missing in SkyDrive. As with Windows phone, storing and sharing files is much easier in my opinion. As for Google, there is third party app for Google drive.
    Secondly if you are looking to share files over mail, G-mail can be easily configured, and you can access and share files on Google drive. I have not really used box simply because I never had a need to use anything other than SkyDrive or Google drive on my Lumia.
    Maybe if you can highlight, what exactly you fear will not be there on Windows Phone, we can help you out with that.
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    12-05-2013 09:37 PM
  23. nuprotocol's Avatar
    In the respect of toggles and settings, it's not like Android at all, more like iPhone. You can literally turn off WiFi and other things with one click in Android. No 3rd party app will let you do it in WP, unless you first close the app you're in, go to the start screen, locate the app, open the app, and flip the switch. In android, the same thing would be flick open the system tray, and flip the switch.

    For WiFi etc it's not a big issue, but the rotation lock absolutely would benefit from this.

    There's just no way around that Android is better IN THIS ASPECT than WP. I hope WP8.1 fixes this.
    I just switched this week from Android to Windows Phone. My droid was an ATT HTC ONE and I switched to an ATT Nokia 925. I really liking Windows Phone A LOT. I'm actually surprised about how much I like it b/c I've heard nothing but horrible things about it. I believe it was a matter of time since I enjoy building gaming PC's. Have a beastly Win7 desktop, Win8 desktop, Win8 laptop, and a Surface2.

    The only odd thing I've noticed about Windows Phone is that even if you have the ringer on mute. Notification sounds like from KIK messenger still come through.

    Also are there any benefits/integration that can be done with Windows 8 PC's and Windows Phone 8?
    12-05-2013 09:52 PM
  24. Morado's Avatar
    My favorite apps for that and which I put on tile is "Easy Connect". One click and it shows and allow setting on:
    1. Wifi. Also show "on" or "off" status with no further tap needed.
    2 Data. Ditto
    3. Location (GPS receiver). Ditto. Some other apps I tried didn't have Location.
    4. Buetooth
    5. Airplane
    This very useful indeed. Thank you.
    12-06-2013 01:48 AM
  25. dosto's Avatar
    Although I don't use Android as my daily driver, I am heavily invested in the Google ecosystem; I have been a Google Apps for Business user for over 5 years. I use Gmail and Google Calendar daily. I picked up a TMO 925 because I had also started using Office 365. Although I am still experimenting with ecosystems, I've found that MetroMail and Super Calendar 8 work rather well with Google services.
    12-09-2013 11:35 PM
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