12-22-2013 06:15 PM
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  1. neo158's Avatar
    'Lifestyle' with the meaning of "how someone is used to use something".
    I'm used to use my smartphone as a PDA, managing and editing files sometimes. This is why I miss a file manager .
    Then that's not a Lifestyle thing, is it. It's an opinion of how something should be used. If it was a lifestyle thing then it works both ways, why are those of you who want a file manager imposing your lifestyle on those of us who don't want it?

    Personally I don't care if, when or how they implement it, I can use my phone just fine without it. I've made my feelings clear on this matter in the past and posted a possible solution in this thread!!
    Last edited by stmav; 12-17-2013 at 03:11 PM.
    12-17-2013 02:49 PM
  2. sameermehta2's Avatar
    I don't see why you aren't listening to what I want! bouncing boobs on my lock screen! Android has it!"

    ;););):):):):):):):):)
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    12-17-2013 02:50 PM
  3. juanitoriv's Avatar
    Cool. Thanks for the info. In my case, ringtone is all I want though. :)
    If all your looking for is just ringtones, try Myxer, its really cool to just browse and find cool tones. But, for an awesome music experience AudioCloud. It links superbly yo your Soundcloud account. You can find tracks, songs, mixes and edit the parts you want for your ringtone..

    Just sayin..

    Good luck!!
    12-17-2013 02:59 PM
  4. John Kline Kurtz's Avatar
    I would love to have a file manager on my windows phone 8. Here are a couple of thoughts:
    1. I like folders! I've been groomed by 25 years of using UNIX, Windows, Mac OS X, and just about any other operating system that I might have touched along the way to have a folder structure at least in part for my own usage. Even if you were not an admin, you got your own local space to make folders when you wanted. I want to make folders on my windows phone. I just want folders for my photos/docs/music/audio/video and other media types so that I can organize them how I like. I want Apps that allow you to focus on one folder at a time and deal with the files there. Nothing is more frustrating to me than putting some music on my phone in folders via Windows and a usb cable, and then having the stupid App lump them all in one big playlist.
    2. Sometimes you want to operate on deleting or copying files in a more concise and selective way than using the provided app's interface.
    3. It does no harm for Microsoft to provide a simple interface for the general user to use, but also provide the OPTION for those who want to have a File Manager to use one

    John
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    12-17-2013 03:01 PM
  5. juanitoriv's Avatar
    No, you don't understand me. I allready downloaded video with flash videos app, and now want to transfer it to my computer
    With Flash Videos?

    Really??

    Really??

    Dude!!!!!!!

    This is one of the very first apps that I ever bought. I love it!! There are video tutorials IN THE APP to show you how.. I follow it to a tee. XLight Server and everything. I pull movies and shows all the time, then I transfer. Swipe until you see help, then tap on "video tutorials". Watch the ones about transferring files.

    Goodness gracious.
    12-17-2013 03:16 PM
  6. marcomura's Avatar
    I had a post deleted. I cannot post in a forum where MODs randomly delete posts.
    Continue discussing how lovely your WP is and how it doesn't need any change because it's already perfect, or your opinion will be censured here.
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    12-17-2013 03:25 PM
  7. juanitoriv's Avatar
    Cool. Thanks for the info. In my case, ringtone is all I want though. :)
    I have, in total complete honesty, never had an issue in any regard to file management problems. This includes getting files from the web onto my phone, transferring them to my PC. Taking files directly off my PC and shipping them off. I've pulled music, movies, zips, rars, exes, dlls, 7zes, straight up high end installation packages. 8X to XP (now W7). DONE!!

    There is and are workarounds for EVERYTHING!! True, the methodology can be, at times, inconvenient. However, tools do exist to make the magic.

    P.s. This isn't so much directed towards you, but more as a general type thing..
    12-17-2013 03:30 PM
  8. stmav's Avatar
    I had a post deleted. I cannot post in a forum where MODs randomly delete posts.
    Continue discussing how lovely your WP is and how it doesn't need any change because it's already perfect, or your opinion will be censured here.
    Your post was deleted because it was a personal attack/insult telling someone they didn't need to post here anymore. Not because you would like a file manager. Keep it to that and there won't be a problem.

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    Also your other post was edited because you were trying to bypass the profanity filter. Nothing more.
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    12-17-2013 03:41 PM
  9. juanitoriv's Avatar
    I had a post deleted. I cannot post in a forum where MODs randomly delete posts.
    Continue discussing how lovely your WP is and how it doesn't need any change because it's already perfect, or your opinion will be censured here.
    Well my 8X is the t!Ts... Is it perfect? No.... It took a good amount of time for me to learn how to make my WP7x/8 to work and have some/a lot of the features & functionality that existed back when I had a WM6.5. Now that was truly a "Pocket PC"!!!! I sometimes miss the ease I could do certain things (which might take 3 to 4 extra steps now) but I don't miss having to manage tasks, worry about malware, constantly monitor performance, troubleshoot lag issues, etc.

    And here is where I start to ramble:

    I think that if MS would allow a user sandbox that would allow downloads from IE and easy file transfer to music/picture/ringtone/video hub (and ONLY into those on the device) or from said sandbox out to the PC, people would just stop crying.. I mean, I guess you could say that that's a file manager, maybe just a "user toy box". Which is funny to me, because UC Browser lets you download stuff then pop it into the music hub just by changing the file extension to an mp3, which you change after you connect your USB.

    But, like I said, I figured all this stuff out a LONG time ago. I learned how to use all these manipulations before WP8 when I ran with my Radar.

    I guess I just spent time to make the tools available work for me instead of whining. But then, I'll build a bridge out of duct tape, 2 sticks, a hanger and a beer can.
    link68759 and neo158 like this.
    12-17-2013 03:53 PM
  10. Tom Snyder's Avatar
    Then that's not a Lifestyle thing, is it. It's an opinion of how something should be used. If it was a lifestyle thing then it works both ways, why are those of you who want a file manager imposing your lifestyle on those of us who don't want it?

    Personally I don't care if, when or how they implement it, I can use my phone just fine without it. I've made my feelings clear on this matter in the past and posted a possible solution in this thread!!
    If your phone had a file manager on it you would not have to use it, but it would be available for those who want to. Its like text messaging to me I don't use it or like it, but I don't think they should have remove it from every phone because I don't need it. WOW

    I wish there were a lot of things on the O/S which gave us more control of the O/S to manage it and take care of it. I think it's the term choices vs fully automated which we now have.
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    12-17-2013 05:33 PM
  11. neo158's Avatar
    If your phone had a file manager on it you would not have to use it, but it would be available for those who want to. Its like text messaging to me I don't use it or like it, but I don't think they should have remove it from every phone because I don't need it. WOW

    I wish there were a lot of things on the O/S which gave us more control of the O/S to manage it and take care of it. I think it's the term choices vs fully automated which we now have.
    Did you even read what I posted or just pick it, write a comment and then click post?
    12-17-2013 05:37 PM
  12. Tom Snyder's Avatar
    If your phone had a file manager on it you would not have to use it, but it would be available for those who want to. Its like text messaging to me I don't use it or like it, but I don't think they should have remove it from every phone because I don't need it. WOW

    I wish there were a lot of things on the O/S which gave us more control of the O/S to manage it and take care of it. I think it's the term choices vs fully automated which we now have.
    Unless I read the above quote in post #51 totally wrong, you said we would be imposing on you if a file manager was available, even though you would not have to use it. Is that not what you said? Or did someone else post it I'm very sorry if it was not you.
    12-17-2013 06:41 PM
  13. a5cent's Avatar
    If your phone had a file manager on it you would not have to use it, but it would be available for those who want to.
    This is a typical argument made by those who want a file manager. It is based on the false premise that a file manger is used in isolation of everything else, and that the availability of a file manager has no influence on other design choices made by OS designers and app developers. An OS that supports a publicly accessible file system, and expects users to navigate it using a file manager, will nudge OS developers and 3rd party app developers towards different design choices. Over time, the sum of those design choices leads the OS and ecosystem to become something very different from what they would have become without a file manager. That is why the idea, that we who don't want a file manager could simply ignore its existence and not be affected in any other way, is extremely nave.

    From what I understand, MS will add some file management features to the SkyDrive app. I wouldn't consider that to be a file manager, yet it still has the potential to solve many of the problems WP has with random file access. Instead of arguing about this further, it's probably better to wait and see what MS' approach has to offer. I'm not sure it can solve every last problem, but on the other hand, a full blown file manager definitely can't solve all the problems either, at least not without throwing out WP's entire security model, which clearly isn't an option.
    12-17-2013 06:56 PM
  14. ntice_521's Avatar
    WP8 already supports file management. Just not in a consistent, logical way. You can transfer files by USB, but not WiFi (it's a smartphone, Microsoft, not an MP3 player from 1998!). You can open files with some apps, but not others. Some file extensions can be used, and not others. It's an embarrassing mess.
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    12-17-2013 07:21 PM
  15. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Another file manager thread. Is it Groundhog Day again already?
    12-17-2013 07:21 PM
  16. juanitoriv's Avatar
    I'm sayin!! Deja vu all over again!!
    12-17-2013 09:51 PM
  17. a5cent's Avatar
    WP8 already supports file management. Just not in a consistent, logical way.
    It's good to see someone on your side of the fence acknowledge that it is possible to (a) support certain aspects of file management functionality, without (b) a file manager being the only possible way to do so. Unlike you, many seem unable to grasp that concept.

    However, you are misjudging the current technical situation, or at least mischaracterizing it. The entire system underlying WP's approach to file handling can be explained in just a few sentences. It is much simpler than the system used by Android, and it's simplicity alone should easily convince anyone that the system is neither inconsistent nor illogical in any way.... it is incomplete however. I'm not sure I'd agree if you were to call it "too simple", but I wouldn't argue with that characterization either.

    The closest WP will get to offering something like a file manager is a built-in app to access network shares. That is sorely lacking. Better SkyDrive integration will probably be the limit of file manager like functionality for files stored locally. How those two aspects of remote file system access (with local sync support) should integrate with WP, so as to fulfil our needs, would make for a far more interesting discussion than yelling "I want a file manager", which is void of any real information and therefore pretty much useless.
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    12-18-2013 07:09 AM
  18. Ssrki's Avatar
    With Flash Videos?

    Really??

    Really??

    Dude!!!!!!!

    This is one of the very first apps that I ever bought. I love it!! There are video tutorials IN THE APP to show you how.. I follow it to a tee. XLight Server and everything. I pull movies and shows all the time, then I transfer. Swipe until you see help, then tap on "video tutorials". Watch the ones about transferring files.

    Goodness gracious.
    I watched and done everything like in tutorial, but I didn' bought app, I use trial version. Maybe problem in trial. It works good for you?
    12-18-2013 07:57 AM
  19. neo158's Avatar
    Unless I read the above quote in post #51 totally wrong, you said we would be imposing on you if a file manager was available, even though you would not have to use it. Is that not what you said? Or did someone else post it I'm very sorry if it was not you.
    That's not what I was saying at all, If you read back through the posts I was replying to you would see why I stated that the comment about imposing a lifestyle of those who don't want a file manager works both ways.
    12-18-2013 11:36 AM
  20. juanitoriv's Avatar
    I watched and done everything like in tutorial, but I didn' bought app, I use trial version. Maybe problem in trial. It works good for you?
    I'm watching The Hunger Games: Catching Fire on my PC connected TV right now!!! Watched Showtime's Masters of Sex just a few minutes ago, and I don't have cable tv. It is SO worth the purchase!!
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    12-18-2013 12:03 PM
  21. juanitoriv's Avatar
    WP8 already supports file management. Just not in a consistent, logical way. You can transfer files by USB, but not WiFi (it's a smartphone, Microsoft, not an MP3 player from 1998!). You can open files with some apps, but not others. Some file extensions can be used, and not others. It's an embarrassing mess.
    WP8 does allow for WiFi transfer, just not natively. There are apps that DO allow for this back and forth.
    12-18-2013 12:08 PM
  22. juanitoriv's Avatar
    12-18-2013 12:14 PM
  23. ntice_521's Avatar
    WP8 does allow for WiFi transfer, just not natively. There are apps that DO allow for this back and forth.
    There is exactly ONE app that can do this - Moliplayer, and it's only because the app has special Nokia privileges. It's not supposed to be possible.
    Last edited by ntice_521; 12-18-2013 at 07:49 PM.
    12-18-2013 05:09 PM
  24. link68759's Avatar
    This is exactly ONE app that can do this - Moliplayer, and it's only because the app has special Nokia privileges. It's not supposed to be possible.
    No, plenty of apps can do it, some of them even use samba network sharing so you don't need server software on the PC nor do you need the browser.

    The only thing special about moliplayer is the fact that it can write to the SD card/video library. Then again, any other app can do that by renaming said file to mp3 and having the system import it. I'm beta testing moliplayer and I've specifically requested that they have moliplayer examine file contents and not just extensions, so if they listen to me, you can in the future open videos saved as .mp3 by other apps. Moliplayer already does this for audio, so if you have a sample.flac, and import it into the library via another app as sample.flac.mp3, moliplayer can play it.
    12-18-2013 05:48 PM
  25. juanitoriv's Avatar
    There is exactly ONE app that can do this - Moliplayer, and it's only because the app has special Nokia privileges. It's not supposed to be possible.
    So, I've been doing something that's "not" possible for 6 to 8 months now?? Well better tell me phone and PC that then!!
    12-19-2013 12:17 AM
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