02-14-2014 05:04 PM
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  1. worldspy99's Avatar
    I have not seen this with android either. I have had over 12 android phones but not longer than 9 months so that may be why.

    Sent from my Moto X!
    Samsung Galaxy Exhibit II 4G and I still have the phone after 2 years:-) It runs okay now, even after rooting it and putting maybe about 30 apps on it. I would say that my Lumia 521 smoked it right out of the box.
    02-06-2014 03:45 PM
  2. planoman's Avatar
    Samsung Galaxy Exhibit II 4G and I still have the phone after 2 years:-) It runs okay now, even after rooting it and putting maybe about 30 apps on it. I would say that my Lumia 521 smoked it right out of the box.
    That is an old phone ;) I can't be sure what causes it, but I have never experienced it. Seems like there have always been vast differences in android users experiences with even the same device. If I had to say, I would say it is specific apps. I do not use any of the social media apps and seems to not have a lot of issue others have. I would say since the Galaxy S3, Note 2 timeframes all of my phones have been blazingly fast. My current Moto X with optimized software and my Nexus 5 with a snapdragon 800 just fly. I put 60 to 70 apps on my phones.

    I am looking forward to the next wave of WP and of course 8.1
    02-06-2014 04:50 PM
  3. worldspy99's Avatar
    That is an old phone ;) I can't be sure what causes it, but I have never experienced it. Seems like there have always been vast differences in android users experiences with even the same device. If I had to say, I would say it is specific apps. I do not use any of the social media apps and seems to not have a lot of issue others have. I would say since the Galaxy S3, Note 2 timeframes all of my phones have been blazingly fast. My current Moto X with optimized software and my Nexus 5 with a snapdragon 800 just fly. I put 60 to 70 apps on my phones.

    I am looking forward to the next wave of WP and of course 8.1
    I have about over 100 apps on my phone. I had the same apps on my second Android phone which was a Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 did not have any lag issues but it did not cost $76 including tax to buy either:-) One thing I realized is to stick with stock Android or as close to stock as possible. If I had a lot of money I would buy either the Nexus 5 or Moto X and for less money I would spring for a Moto G or a used Nexus 4. All the other skins I think probably slow down the OS to some extent.

    Now as far as apps are concerned, the only app I miss on WP8 is Vonage Extensions about which I have complained about extensively on various threads on WPC and via Twitter to Windowsphone and Vonage:-)

    I am okay with or without a notification center on WP8 versus iOS/Android. However, I do miss Swype and the voice recognition capability on my Nexus 4 both of which were amazing. WP8 needs to catch up in these two areas IMHO.
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    02-06-2014 05:31 PM
  4. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    That's the second time in this post I've seen someone say this about android devices getting slower over time. I have never experienced this and am curious to know what device did you have that did this. I have never had a low end phone before this one so it may be a low end android issue. I agree with the iPhone 4s part though. I never keep my iPhones longer than the refresh because Apple always seems to find a way to mess them up after a while. It's a good thing they pay for themselves every year or i wouldn't always have one.
    I owned top android phones like the xperia x10, galaxy captivate, vibrant, s2, s3, HTC evo and the 3d, and quite a few others. I used to use android exclusively before switching to windows phone in 2012 so I had an issue with lag on those devices.

    Of course modern android phones like the one and gs4 and xperia are lovely and perform well but their overlay is a bit clunky imo.
    02-06-2014 05:58 PM
  5. planoman's Avatar
    I have about over 100 apps on my phone. I had the same apps on my second Android phone which was a Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 did not have any lag issues but it did not cost $76 including tax to buy either:-) One thing I realized is to stick with stock Android or as close to stock as possible. If I had a lot of money I would buy either the Nexus 5 or Moto X and for less money I would spring for a Moto G or a used Nexus 4. All the other skins I think probably slow down the OS to some extent.

    Now as far as apps are concerned, the only app I miss on WP8 is Vonage Extensions about which I have complained about extensively on various threads on WPC and via Twitter to Windowsphone and Vonage:-)

    I am okay with or without a notification center on WP8 versus iOS/Android. However, I do miss Swype and the voice recognition capability on my Nexus 4 both of which were amazing. WP8 needs to catch up in these two areas IMHO.
    +1 on sticking as close to stock android as possible. Love my Moto X (near stock) and Nexus 5 (stock). I know some experience the slowdown and lag, I have not seen it though even on my S4 which was hammered over lag.

    If you like voice commands the Moto X is superb and in a class by itself. It is easily the reason I prefer it to my Nexus 5. Just got my eldest daughter set up on a Moto X from an iPhone last week. She was eyeing my Lumia though...:)
    02-06-2014 06:13 PM
  6. worldspy99's Avatar
    +1 on sticking as close to stock android as possible. Love my Moto X (near stock) and Nexus 5 (stock). I know some experience the slowdown and lag, I have not seen it though even on my S4 which was hammered over lag.
    Agreed. But going back to WP8, I started out with the 521 and in three weeks moved up to an 810. Since then I have tried
    822 - 16GB vs 8GB, more color options - I had all the 4 colors VZW sold
    925 - wanted bigger screen, 16GB, better camera, LTE but still loved my 810 screen for some reason
    920 - wanted 32GB, wireless charging, LTE and a slightly smaller screen but sold that phone as well

    I have an HTC 8X too which I plan to use as a daily driver starting next week provided I get the time to set it up right this weekend....

    At this point I would say I am going to wait for a MSFT / NOK competitor that blows the Moto G out of the water to switch from my 810 in terms of device specs. Give me Swype, better voice recognition for typing / search, volume control, moving apps to SD card and I will be quite happy with WP8.1.
    02-06-2014 06:20 PM
  7. Bahamen's Avatar
    Not a list. On my HTC One it's a 4X6 grid which i feel is faster to find an app since you see 24 apps on one screen rather than a list you have to scroll through.
    If you have lots of apps, then a list may be a better way to organize them. I have like 5 pages of apps on my iPad and I have to search for them one at a time, and if you had forgotten the icon the only way to find it is via search. It helps a little to organize them into folders but overall it is still such a chore.

    With the Windows Phone implementation of a sorted list, you can use the alphabet to jump to it, or you can also speed scroll all the way down. I can understand if you prefer a grid but there are advantages to continuous scrolling as well. I find it easier to search for the app that I want without relying on visual cues.
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    02-06-2014 06:48 PM
  8. worldspy99's Avatar
    If you have lots of apps, then a list may be a better way to organize them. I have like 5 pages of apps on my iPad and I have to search for them one at a time, and if you had forgotten the icon the only way to find it is via search. It helps a little to organize them into folders but overall it is still such a chore.

    With the Windows Phone implementation of a sorted list, you can use the alphabet to jump to it, or you can also speed scroll all the way down. I can understand if you prefer a grid but there are advantages to continuous scrolling as well. I find it easier to search for the app that I want without relying on visual cues.
    +1. For me I find it is easier to find a particular app faster on my Lumia 810 versus my Nexus 4 using the sorted list vs grid view UX differences. I have not used the search function on either device to jump to a particular app....
    02-06-2014 07:01 PM
  9. planoman's Avatar
    Agreed. But going back to WP8, I started out with the 521 and in three weeks moved up to an 810. Since then I have tried
    822 - 16GB vs 8GB, more color options - I had all the 4 colors VZW sold
    925 - wanted bigger screen, 16GB, better camera, LTE but still loved my 810 screen for some reason
    920 - wanted 32GB, wireless charging, LTE and a slightly smaller screen but sold that phone as well

    I have an HTC 8X too which I plan to use as a daily driver starting next week provided I get the time to set it up right this weekend....

    At this point I would say I am going to wait for a MSFT / NOK competitor that blows the Moto G out of the water to switch from my 810 in terms of device specs. Give me Swype, better voice recognition for typing / search, volume control, moving apps to SD card and I will be quite happy with WP8.1.
    Wow you have tried a lot of Lumias! I tired a 1020 for a few weeks for the camera but it was just too heavy compared to what I was used to so I returned it. The pics were excellent of course but the weight...picked up a Mint 925 from SWAPPA in December and really like it! it is essentially the same size as the 1020 without the bigger camera. About the only complaint I have on the 925 is the 16GB of storage...

    I plan to wait to see the new crop of WP 8.1 coming and crossing my fingers for at least 32GB of storage or sd card capability.
    02-06-2014 07:31 PM
  10. Ivin Laney's Avatar
    If you have lots of apps, then a list may be a better way to organize them. I have like 5 pages of apps on my iPad and I have to search for them one at a time, and if you had forgotten the icon the only way to find it is via search. It helps a little to organize them into folders but overall it is still such a chore.

    With the Windows Phone implementation of a sorted list, you can use the alphabet to jump to it, or you can also speed scroll all the way down. I can understand if you prefer a grid but there are advantages to continuous scrolling as well. I find it easier to search for the app that I want without relying on visual cues.
    I see what you mean. When i had a lot of apps i found it easier and by far faster than any kind of scrolling to just say "okay google open visual voicemail" (since the letter "V" would be all the way at the bottom). I really hate scrolling :)
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    02-06-2014 07:59 PM
  11. Noahma's Avatar
    I see what you mean. When i had a lot of apps i found it easier and by far faster than any kind of scrolling to just say "okay google open visual voicemail" (since the letter "V" would be all the way at the bottom). I really hate scrolling :)
    you can do that with windows phone too. Hold your start button, when tell me comes up say "open (insert app name" and it will open.
    02-06-2014 11:02 PM
  12. worldspy99's Avatar
    Wow you have tried a lot of Lumias! I tired a 1020 for a few weeks for the camera but it was just too heavy compared to what I was used to so I returned it. The pics were excellent of course but the weight...picked up a Mint 925 from SWAPPA in December and really like it! it is essentially the same size as the 1020 without the bigger camera. About the only complaint I have on the 925 is the 16GB of storage...

    I plan to wait to see the new crop of WP 8.1 coming and crossing my fingers for at least 32GB of storage or sd card capability.
    By any chance you bought the 925 on T-Mobile? I sold one on Swappa that is why...
    02-07-2014 08:16 AM
  13. smogg9's Avatar
    good article there my friend...now im going to let my experience sink in this forum lol : i was an android fan, then all of a sudden i switched to windows phone and at first i was regretting it, i was like ''wtf is this? where is fb chat? this fb app sucks, wtf have i done!?'' later on i came to like the OS and was even bragging about it , but NOW (after almost a year) i wanna switch back to an android device, i just want things to work for me, i need a decent fb app with a decent fb chat that would let me send pictures and receive them without the need of going to the fb site to see them.... i need a good whatsapp that wont lag and will let me customize its background, i need a reliable OS opening apps fast. i grew tired of the OS and havent switched because i dont have the money! and no one wants to buy my phone (lumia 920) ..it feels like having a gf you dont like lmao
    02-07-2014 09:26 AM
  14. ipinsao's Avatar
    Of all the updates they keep coming up it's sad that they leave off the screen orientation lock. That update for glance is just useless.
    02-07-2014 09:52 AM
  15. worldspy99's Avatar
    good article there my friend...now im going to let my experience sink in this forum lol : i was an android fan, then all of a sudden i switched to windows phone and at first i was regretting it, i was like ''wtf is this? where is fb chat? this fb app sucks, wtf have i done!?'' later on i came to like the OS and was even bragging about it , but NOW (after almost a year) i wanna switch back to an android device, i just want things to work for me, i need a decent fb app with a decent fb chat that would let me send pictures and receive them without the need of going to the fb site to see them.... i need a good whatsapp that wont lag and will let me customize its background, i need a reliable OS opening apps fast. i grew tired of the OS and havent switched because i dont have the money! and no one wants to buy my phone (lumia 920) ..it feels like having a gf you dont like lmao
    Try selling your phone on Swappa, it should go fast if it is in mint condition and priced correctly. For that matter phones sell pretty quickly on WPC Marketplace as well.
    02-07-2014 10:20 AM
  16. tgp's Avatar
    Try selling your phone on Swappa, it should go fast if it is in mint condition and priced correctly. For that matter phones sell pretty quickly on WPC Marketplace as well.
    The problem is that "priced correctly" for a used Lumia 920 is $125 or so, and even less if it's not in perfect condition. That won't buy a mid to high range Android.
    02-07-2014 10:27 AM
  17. worldspy99's Avatar
    The problem is that "priced correctly" for a used Lumia 920 is $125 or so, and even less if it's not in perfect condition. That won't buy a mid to high range Android.
    I sold mine which was unlocked Pentaband that got LTE on T-Mo for $250....which was about two weeks ago so YMMV...
    02-07-2014 02:12 PM
  18. tgp's Avatar
    I sold mine which was unlocked Pentaband that got LTE on T-Mo for $250....which was about two weeks ago so YMMV...
    I bought a perfect condition red AT&T 920 for $125 about 2 months ago. It didn't come with any accessories other than what came in the box with it.
    02-07-2014 02:16 PM
  19. planoman's Avatar
    By any chance you bought the 925 on T-Mobile? I sold one on Swappa that is why...
    Nope, ATT. You can get some great deals on SWAPPA. I have sold three of my phones there and bought one so far.
    02-07-2014 04:17 PM
  20. Miska Hietala's Avatar
    That's the second time in this post I've seen someone say this about android devices getting slower over time. I have never experienced this and am curious to know what device did you have that did this. I have never had a low end phone before this one so it may be a low end android issue. I agree with the iPhone 4s part though. I never keep my iPhones longer than the refresh because Apple always seems to find a way to mess them up after a while. It's a good thing they pay for themselves every year or i wouldn't always have one.
    Only high end android phones has support for TRIM, which supposedly reduces the 'slow -effect' the more u use the phone. Low end and middle ones don't have support for that.

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
    02-08-2014 02:43 AM
  21. Winfonejunkie's Avatar
    Exactly. The app search feature on Windows Phone just makes sense. No more lost apps. Imagine how much time is wasted searching for apps on Androids and Iphones.
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    02-11-2014 10:03 AM
  22. EpidemikE1's Avatar
    I see what you mean. When i had a lot of apps i found it easier and by far faster than any kind of scrolling to just say "okay google open visual voicemail" (since the letter "V" would be all the way at the bottom). I really hate scrolling :)
    First off, let me say I appreciate you taking your time and trying the WP from an objective position. I just want to address some things with you and reader of this thread

    Voice commands are great but personally I don't think its a good idea to use them in public. It gives off the whole im-wearing-a-Bluetooth-headset-and-it-looks-like-im-talking-to-myself vibe. I think voice command really works in the car or when at home/non-public place. That being said, I find the alphabetical grid a much more efficient way to look for an app than conventional methods in iOS and Android. Again that is just my opinion.

    Just a quick backstory about myself and mobile devices, Ive had (in this order) a T-Mobile SDA (Windows Mobile), Treo 650, Blackberry Curve, iPhone 3GS, HTC EVO 4G (aka Supersonic and ran with CM), Nokia Lumia 900 and finally Nokia Lumia 1520. I've had interactions with a wide breath of mobile platforms and in my opinion, WP has been my favorite and most useful experience.

    I'd also like to say Im glad you purchased the 925 to get a more robust feel for the platform because I do think the experience is on par to what you would get in iOS or Android. Some things I think WP does better than the competitors and some things I think the opposite holds true.
    All in all WP is leaps and bounds better than i thought it would be ( and boy did i have my reservations) but its just not leaps and bounds better than iOS and android
    02-11-2014 12:17 PM
  23. Geodude074's Avatar
    I just bought a WP8 and have been using it for a week now.

    I don't really like it. The deal breaker for me was the inability to move files from one folder to another, or the inability to create system folders.

    I can't, for example, download an attachment from an email on IE and save it on my WP8 phone and move it to another folder.

    This makes it useless for work. It amazes me how WP8 can quickly nullify the entire idea of attachments in emails without giving it a second thought.

    And since WP8 is already lacking in apps, it's not really that good for consuming things like games and media either.

    So what good is it for?
    02-12-2014 03:33 PM
  24. ithehappy's Avatar
    I just bought a WP8 and have been using it for a week now.

    I don't really like it. The deal breaker for me was the inability to move files from one folder to another, or the inability to create system folders.

    I can't, for example, download an attachment from an email on IE and save it on my WP8 phone and move it to another folder.

    This makes it useless for work. It amazes me how WP8 can quickly nullify the entire idea of attachments in emails without giving it a second thought.

    And since WP8 is already lacking in apps, it's not really that good for consuming things like games and media either.

    So what good is it for?
    Well if you don't find any good things in something, then it really doesn't matter about other's opinion, you just need to get back to what you liked.
    As I said million times in several places, killing this beautiful OS is in MS's own hand.
    02-12-2014 05:18 PM
  25. mlbrowninsc's Avatar
    I have a 520, iPhone 4s, and a blackberry q10. Like them all for different reasons. Right now use each back and forth. Really waiting to see what comes out over the next few months to see which way to go. IPhone is a bit boring but it is nice to have the apps for whatever I need. However I like the os of wp8 the best. Hopefully the app situation will work itself out.
    02-12-2014 09:22 PM
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