02-19-2015 12:51 PM
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  1. Guzzler3's Avatar
    Dude learn to adapt things easily especially the things which can makes your life easy
    I'm trying, seriously. All I'm asking for is a option in the setting somewhere to toggle back to the old way. Because the new way has NOT made MY life any easier using the phone. I'm glad it's working for you.
    I know it's there, I feel it's there, But I can't see it there cause my very tiny thumb is pretty much covering it all.
    Same here. No matter how hard I try, my finger keeps covering up the damn cursor and I can't tell where the hell it is!! It is a cruel game of "Where's Waldo" when moving it around.
    04-20-2014 10:51 AM
  2. Nimdock's Avatar
    Hahaha, am I the only one tilting his phone trying to see where the cursor is going to land?
    04-20-2014 10:54 AM
  3. redserpent7's Avatar
    Hahaha, am I the only one tilting his phone trying to see where the cursor is going to land?
    Oh believe me you're not alone...
    04-20-2014 02:18 PM
  4. Joe920's Avatar
    No matter how hard I try, my finger keeps covering up the damn cursor and I can't tell where the hell it is!! It is a cruel game of "Where's Waldo" when moving it around.
    I also liked the old way, but even now you can move your finger quite a bit down before the cursor drops to the next line. For me it's enough to reveal the entire cursor and selection dot.
    04-20-2014 02:24 PM
  5. sdreamer's Avatar
    I kinda prefer the the older way as I find the new way you can easily cover up the cursor with the finger that's moving it. However the older way was a pain with panning up and down text beside it would jump. Would bad nice if they left both ways.
    04-20-2014 02:35 PM
  6. Dragone's Avatar
    I just realized that after I updated my Lumia 920 to WP8.1 Preview for developers,I can't press and hold in a text area to place the cursor whenever I want it to be,as I use to be since WP7. Now You can only place the cursor at the beginning or end of a word you can't place it in the middle of the word to change a specific letter.

    Anyone else experiencing this after updating to WP8.1?
    The way it is now feels so natural I didn't pay attention to this till I read this topic.
    04-20-2014 02:37 PM
  7. supercat27's Avatar
    agreed, one of my biggest pain points is the cursor - it usually wrongly selects the whole word or places it at the back or front of a phrase, when i want to edit something in the middle - they need to implement some type of zoom, similar to what iOS has.

    This is rudimentary MS - get it together
    04-22-2014 09:03 PM
  8. yaro da yaar's Avatar
    04-27-2014 12:27 AM
  9. bayanii's Avatar
    It's a step backwards. Before you could position the cursor anywhere you want, alot like with a mouse. Now you have to tap and drag it around.
    Kind of the same thing right? You had to hhold it down before, the cursor would appear in some random area, and you would place it where you want it.

    Now you just tap, drag, and place. There's no delay and random placement of the cursor.

    Learn it. You may find it easier to perfect something than complaining about it. Just saying.
    irvin792 likes this.
    04-27-2014 12:49 AM
  10. irvin792's Avatar
    Kind of the same thing right? You had to hhold it down before, the cursor would appear in some random area, and you would place it where you want it.

    Now you just tap, drag, and place. There's no delay and random placement of the cursor.

    Learn it. You may find it easier to perfect something than complaining about it. Just saying.
    This!!!
    04-27-2014 01:06 AM
  11. muvig's Avatar
    Sure its now better. It just works as it was in WP8 but this time you just tap, hold that little circle, drag it anywhere, even if you drop down a little bit your finger to clearly see the word while still holding/pressing, it still works
    04-27-2014 01:54 AM
  12. Xpider_MX's Avatar
    Sure its now better. It just works as it was in WP8 but this time you just tap, hold that little circle, drag it anywhere, even if you drop down a little bit your finger to clearly see the word while still holding/pressing, it still works
    You don't need to tap exactly in the circle, you can tap one any part of the cursor:

    | <--- you can tap here
    | <--- or here
    O <--- and obviously here

    Old WP8.0 cursor:
    - tap and hold for 2 or 3 second until cursor appears
    New WP8.1 cursor:
    - Tap-Tap, the cursor will appear.


    Old WP8.0 behavior:
    - Move the finger until the cursor set on the right place, but in my experience, 50%, the cursor ends in another place
    New WP8.1 behavior:
    - Move the finger where you want, the cursor will move character to character, it is easier to put the cursor where you want.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    04-27-2014 02:16 AM
  13. muvig's Avatar
    Yeah its weird that they changed this.i believe the old way is much easier to handle than trying to hit that sweet spot to move the caret. That being said, the new keyboard is much smarter now that rarely do I need to edit anything and I am using Word Flow which is amazing and very easy to use
    If I am not mistaken there must be a video done to show how it is done (using the cursor).
    All those who are saying the older was better have not yet discovered how one can manipulate this cursor.
    For me I learn something each time I read these threads.
    With this new cursor, do you know that you you can tap anywhere (blank), the cursor would appear, then hold anywhere to move it, be it up or down and obviously sideways. Guys try everything to discover what is best for you
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    04-27-2014 02:19 AM
  14. muvig's Avatar
    I know how to fire it up, But I find it disturbingly annoying that I can't see where I'm putting it(That's what he said).
    After firing it up just tap & hold anywhere, then move the cursor anywhere you want. You can move it by hold it in those lines you have typed.
    Do you know that a second tap on a word bring up the cursor, while the first tap select the word. And once the that small circle is shown, hold anywhere, yes I mean anywhere, be it in the middle of the words you have typed, on blank space e.t.c you can still move the cursor. Once fired don't obstruct yourself by holding where the cursor is, just chose anywhere.
    04-27-2014 02:39 AM
  15. Swiss7599's Avatar
    The new cursor is horrible! Its extremely difficult to get it to work 100% of the time. The handle is way too small. You cant even see the damn thing when you're dragging it around. Change it back!
    07-24-2014 05:38 AM
  16. byobg's Avatar
    Indeed, since most of us don't.
    And of course, when there's a feature that 49% of people want to work one way, and 51% of people want to work another way, the BEST solution is to hard-code it the way the 51 percent want it. (Because "options" are complicated.)
    07-24-2014 08:23 AM
  17. byobg's Avatar
    The new cursor is horrible! Its extremely difficult to get it to work 100% of the time. The handle is way too small. You cant even see the damn thing when you're dragging it around. Change it back!

    My assumption is that the focus group that tested this feature had a statistically significant number of members with transparent thumbs.
    JeepBB likes this.
    07-24-2014 08:24 AM
  18. AndrewMBaines's Avatar
    I just wish we could have cursor keys. Much simpler than all this dragging with a finger that's 1/4 the width of the screen
    07-24-2014 08:26 AM
  19. PTH11's Avatar
    I have big fingers and I am having trouble typing even on a 6" display (Nokia 1529).
    You can imagine my frustration when the cursor behavior changed with the 8.1. update.
    I found the new way extremely irritatiing and unusable. Even the old way was somewhat
    difficult to use. If the text box was close to the bottom edge of the display, it was downraight
    impossible to position the cursor, as one's finger would need to go over the bottom
    edge of the display.

    Although I sometimes succeeded to position the cursor, most of the time it seemed
    impossible to hit the small round target, and of course I could not see the cursor under
    my clumsy fingertips.

    So I decided to try and live without cursor positioning on my Windows phone. I also
    have an iPad and an Android phone, both of which have a reasonebly decent,
    albeit not perfect cursor positioning method.

    All this changed when I found this thread. Having read halfway into the postings,
    I realized that there may exist a viable cursor positioning method in WP 8.1, I just
    had not by myself discovered how to use it. So I followed the instructions and, in a few
    minutes, I undrestood how it works. Now it seems to me the best and most usable
    and intuitive method in all three platforms I mentioned above.

    So here's a tiny "tutorial" for those who still struggle!

    Write a small amount of thext - a few lines with a few words in each. To position
    the cursor accurately and easily anywhere in the text, do as follows:

    1. Tap (touch) anywhere in the text box: on a word, between words, or on white
    space. It really does not matter where.

    2. Depending on where you touched, you'll either see the cursor somewhere in
    the text box with a small circle below it (this happens if you did not tap on a word),
    or you'll see a highlighted word and two cursors at each end of the word, along
    with small circles below both cursors (this happens if you tapped on a word).

    3. In the first case (a single cursor with a circle below), you can now move the cursor
    anywhere in your text by touching and holding your finger on the cursor, and then
    sliding your finger anywhere on the screen. You do NOT need to accurately hit
    the small circle, it's enough to place your finger roughly over the cursor in the
    vertical center of the text line. This is easy once you get the hang of it.

    4. When you have the cursor exactly where you want it, just lift your finger.

    Please note that while moving the cursor, you can (and should) slide your
    finger below or above each text line, and even outside the text box. Thus
    you can easily see the cirsor as it wanders around from character to character,
    word to word and line to line, without your finger obstructing the cursor. You'll
    soon learn how to do this by experimenting. It is NOT necessarily to try to
    move your finger exatly to the point where you want to place the cursor.
    Instead, just move your finger freely with large gestures and watch the
    cursor move!

    5. In the second case (you have a highlighted word and two cursors with
    small circles each side of it) just tap a second time on the word, and
    you'll see a single cursor. Then proceed as in 3 & 4 above.

    6. If you want to copy text, first select a word by tapping it. The word is now
    highlighted and you'll see two cursors with small circles at each end of
    the word. Then move each cursor separately as described in 3 above to
    the words or characters where you want copying to start and end. Once
    you are happy with the selected (highlighted) text, just touch the round
    "copy" icon which magically appeared. Please note that you can not
    only select whole words, but also place the starting and ending cursors
    to any character within a word.
    08-24-2014 03:07 PM
  20. Hariharan Nandakumar's Avatar
    Spot on ... I can't adapt to what I can't see.

    I think the people who find the new method easier dint really know how to use the old one.
    02-19-2015 12:51 PM
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