1. jasqid's Avatar
    So I'm reading this morning about GDR1 going rtm thus week from multiple sources. I have a question about this.

    I'm running 8.1 DP now. Lets say the GDR1 comes out this in the next 10 days like these predictions. We download it. Since nearly every carrier has NOT even release 8.1 yet, what happens when they do? I don't have the cyan firmware yet, when Verizon finally does let it go, hows that play out.
    07-09-2014 07:21 AM
  2. Pete's Avatar
    RTM does not mean that it will hit phones on the same date, it'll be a few months before manufacturers have finished testing. Release for Developers have it sooner, if GDR1 will have a developer preview (we've had no confirmation yes/no as yet).
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    07-09-2014 07:25 AM
  3. NOLATechy's Avatar
    @Aperture - I tend to disagree. Rumor has it that Microsoft WILL release the GDR1 to people who are already running Windows Phone 8.1 Preview for Developers version. AFTER the WP8.1 DevPreview release, if there are little to no major problems, Microsoft will then release it to the manufacturers and carriers. We "previewers" are the "guinea pigs" for Microsoft (and I'm glad to be one!) and it is up to us to provide the feedback to Microsoft to get bugs fixed before they send it to manufacturers and carriers.

    My only concern is that if we do the GDR1 update, and the carrers release WP8.1 with Cyan firmware, and we have already updated to GDR1, we may not get the WP8.1 with Cyan firmware. I say this because when Verizon recently released a firmware update for the Icon, I could not get the firmware update (which fixed the WiFi issue) until I used the Nokia Software Recovery Tool to go back to Windows Phone 8.0, received the firmware update, then re-upgraded to Windows Phone 8.1. I would hate to have to do this again to get the Cyan update. But I will if I have to, because I am a mega-WP Beta tester. I want the latest and greatest of WP, no matter what! lol
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    07-10-2014 08:14 AM
  4. jasqid's Avatar
    NOLA, That was exactly my concern. God knows when Verizon will release 8.1. Knowing them it could be august or sept. Meanwhile I DL 8.1 Update 1 through Preview and then 8.1 is release on Verizon. Does an official carrier release override a dev preview that is newer under the DP program? I dunno.
    07-10-2014 09:13 AM
  5. phirefly's Avatar
    You will get Cyan and nothing will change with the OS as it will see the version is already above what is released. The OS and Firmware updates are separate updates and both check to make sure they are needed.

    This is the beauty of WP.... It is not Android or IOS where updates are just a giant package. WPs are updated like PCs where your OS and BIOS are updated separately as needed.
    ven07 likes this.
    07-10-2014 09:28 AM
  6. waqqas31's Avatar
    This is the beauty of WP.... It is not Android or IOS where updates are just a giant package. WPs are updated like PCs where your OS and BIOS are updated separately as needed.
    And just like PCs they need to be rebooted every so often :-P
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    07-10-2014 01:09 PM
  7. phirefly's Avatar
    And just like PCs they need to be rebooted every so often :-P
    Just like every other device including my wife's iPhone 5 today. :)
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    07-10-2014 02:36 PM
  8. Zulfigar's Avatar
    So you have a phone that is running OS A, because that's the latest on a server. Suddenly OS B pops up, you check for an update on your phone and find it, and now your phone is up to date.

    With me so far? Good.

    Now your carrier releases OS A + 1, but your phone is running is running OS B, which is newer. Your phone won't tell you about the new OS because yours hasa newer version, but it will get that + 1, it Cyan.

    Hopefully you understand, and that wasn't too confusing. :)
    07-10-2014 02:43 PM
  9. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    So you have a phone that is running OS A, because that's the latest on a server. Suddenly OS B pops up, you check for an update on your phone and find it, and now your phone is up to date.

    With me so far? Good.

    Now your carrier releases OS A + 1, but your phone is running is running OS B, which is newer. Your phone won't tell you about the new OS because yours hasa newer version, but it will get that + 1, it Cyan.

    Hopefully you understand, and that wasn't too confusing. :)
    Are you sure that's true? Based on OP, it doesn't seem to be the case. He said he could not download a firmware bug fix update because he was on 8.1. He had to downgrade to 8, get the firmware update, and then update back to 8.1.
    07-10-2014 06:12 PM
  10. Vitor Salvatore Pierce's Avatar
    Here in Brazil the Lumia 520 was on Amber.
    Some people put the WP 8.1 Preview, but when released the Black, had to downgrade.
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    07-10-2014 07:57 PM
  11. NOLATechy's Avatar
    jasquid let me clarify a bit

    I believe the reason I did not get the firmware update for the Lumia Icon was because the firmware update that Verizon released was meant for the Windows Phone 8.0 OS. Since I had WP8.1 Dev Preview (a higher OS than what the firmware was meant for), I didn't get the firmware update. This is probably because the install file was searching for WP8.0, not WP8.1.

    As long as the OS on your phone is the same as the version associated with the firmware being pushed out (or earlier), you will get the update. In other words, if you have WP8.0 or WP8.1 Dev Preview with Nokia Black firmware and Verizon pushes out WP8.1 (official OS) with Nokia Cyan firmware update, you WILL receive the new update.

    Where I question is whether or not you will get the WP8.1 with Cyan firmware if you update to WP8.1 GDR1 while still only having Nokia Black firmware. I fear that the WP8.1 with Cyan firmware install file will be looking for WP8.0 or WP8.1 (since that is the OS version being pushed out) to install the Cyan firmware. But if we have GDR1 installed, will we have the same issue as I did with the previous WP8.0 firmware fix?

    If anyone can answer that, please let me know.
    07-11-2014 10:23 AM
  12. carlos12001's Avatar
    May have to downgrade, I just got my icon a few days ago, and let it go through all of the updates before installing the dp.
    07-11-2014 10:30 AM
  13. NOLATechy's Avatar
    ALL phones need to be occasionally restarted regardless of the OS. Apple, Android, BB, WP, Umbuntu, etc. They all need to reboot at some point which allows for clearing cache and increasing performance. Usually this is a good thing to do when you've decided to uninstall apps or have installed a bunch of new ones.
    07-14-2014 07:55 AM
  14. magicdesign's Avatar
    ALL phones need to be occasionally restarted regardless of the OS. Apple, Android, BB, WP, Umbuntu, etc. They all need to reboot at some point which allows for clearing cache and increasing performance. Usually this is a good thing to do when you've decided to uninstall apps or have installed a bunch of new ones.
    ^ missing the point of the conversation
    07-14-2014 08:04 AM

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