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  1. speccy's Avatar
    I just can't get on with Android, I wanted to, as a few months back I was fed up with the app gap, but after exploring my options, decided to stick with with my L950. I actually can't see the attraction in IOS or Android, they both use the dead icons much like Windows did around 30 years ago. A screen with live info is very much more useful. A massive improvement recently is the way the photos app now integrates with other apps on the phone, this never worked properly for me whether on fast-ring or AU, but with the recent update (which also changed the "sharing" interface somewhat), these problems have gone away.
    ramyZgHR likes this.
    01-09-2017 05:11 AM
  2. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    The current state of affairs is such that Microsoft doesn't seem to want to use the vast distribution network that Nokia had and Nokia does not have that network anymore. So for me it doesn't matter if Nokia starts making smartphones again, they won't come to my country

    Even if it does, I would only consider it if it can be better than the Nokia Lumia 1020 and have all the Nokia apps as they were or improved
    01-09-2017 08:03 AM
  3. milkyway's Avatar
    I would be interested if the company as well as their new phone had anything in common with "the old" Nokia. The Nokia 6 is just like every other cheap chinese smartphone. It's just a company slapping the Nokia brand name on phones
    If they would release a phone with the look and feel of a Lumia/Nokia N9 with an absolutely awesome camera - and perhaps be manufactured in Finland - then I would be interested
    SL2, Kram Sacul and ananve like this.
    01-09-2017 08:41 AM
  4. speccy's Avatar
    It's Nokia only in name only as mentioned above, it's basically just a licensing deal. HMD paid Nokia to be able to use the Nokia name on their handsets, they're not designed, manufactured or distributed by Nokia. I don't want to knock either party for doing this, Nokia get to make some money off nothing other than allowing their company-name to be put on something (risk free pretty much), and HMD will probably get to sell a few extra handsets to those that don't know any better.

    Win win for Nokia and HMD.... Or not as they case may be. If Nokia charged a lot for the use of their name, then HMD will struggle to make any money, and if HMD produce crappy handsets, it doesn't reflect well on Nokia, but as Nokia don't participate in the handset market anymore, any damage done to the brand will be minimal I guess.
    01-09-2017 09:48 AM
  5. SL2's Avatar
    I would be interested if the company as well as their new phone had anything in common with "the old" Nokia. The Nokia 6 is just like every other cheap chinese smartphone. It's just a company slapping the Nokia brand name on phones
    Exactly.

    Those who are excited about this launch haven't paid attention. It's not the Nokia you used to know.

    All that's left from the old Nokia era is five letters.
    01-09-2017 11:15 AM
  6. Nate W's Avatar
    Phones aren't meant to be rooted, if you know what I mean...
    Exactly. Like we should know how to make them work better than the engineers who engineered them ; ).

    Sent from mTalk
    01-09-2017 11:21 AM
  7. Nate W's Avatar
    Exactly.

    Those who are excited about this launch haven't paid attention. It's not the Nokia you used to know.

    All that's left from the old Nokia era is five letters.
    They (Nokia) are trying to help consumers think it is...

    I watched a CES presentation about the z launcher, where it basically was stated in preface to their new stuff that Nokia is back same as before.

    Sent from mTalk
    libra89 and Shamshi-Adad like this.
    01-09-2017 11:25 AM
  8. SL2's Avatar
    I watched a CES presentation about the z launcher, where it basically was stated in preface to their new stuff that Nokia is back same as before.
    Except that someone else is designing it, and MS owns the camera IP used in the old models.

    What used to make the old Nokia phones stand out from the rest?

    1 - Sturdy design.
    2 - Top tier cameras.

    While they may still be able to make a phone look decent, I'm not so sure about the camera.

    Finding a mid range Android phone with a good (albeit not sturdy) design is not really hard to do.
    What could "Nokia" possibly bring to the saturated Android market that isn't already there?
    ananve likes this.
    01-09-2017 11:36 AM
  9. Sedp23's Avatar
    It's not really the Nokia u knew more or less the name being used by another company to make the phones. I wouldn't have the highest expectations for it

    Sent from Idol 4S
    ananve likes this.
    01-09-2017 03:03 PM
  10. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    Nope, nada, nyet and any other way you want to say ain't gonna happen. There is a great article today on this site that gives the most positive overview of Windows 10 that I have seen in years. 2017 has a lot of things coming; can't wait to experience them.
    Where's the article at?

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14977.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.
    libra89 likes this.
    01-09-2017 03:22 PM
  11. TLRtheory's Avatar
    Eh... I try every once in a while to go back to Android. Then I end up back on Windows Phone.
    RumoredNow and Nate W like this.
    01-09-2017 04:21 PM
  12. aximtreo's Avatar
    Where's the article at?

    Peace. Alan
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14977.1000] Sportster
    Even when I lose, I win.


    What we expect to see from Windows 10 in 2017 | Windows Central
    01-09-2017 05:23 PM
  13. Minh Junior Dinh's Avatar
    A sunny 21C with a light breeze in Hobart.
    Haha, it's 36C on Thursday, which is where I live (in Vic).
    01-09-2017 10:42 PM
  14. Minh Junior Dinh's Avatar
    Anyways, back on the phone topic. I never had the chance to try an android, aside from looking at my mother using her phone. I'd like to give it a try to judge it fairly.
    01-09-2017 10:48 PM
  15. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    I'm really quite content with my Lumia 950 XL. I'll sit tight for the Surface mobile.

    And honestly, if I wanted an Android device, there are a few other OEMs I would choose before Nokia.
    01-09-2017 11:13 PM
  16. patcherd's Avatar
    Like others have stated, Nokia I don't think will be the old Nokia many of us knew and loved. I did the android bit a few times and always came back to windows.


    I would be tempted to check out a new Nokia running android,...but when all is said and done, it is still android and I much prefer Windows.


    In the meantime, I have my two great performing phones, the 950 and 650 to see me through 2017 until we get more choices in hardware.
    RumoredNow and ananve like this.
    01-10-2017 01:26 AM
  17. Guytronic's Avatar
    01-10-2017 02:36 AM
  18. Matty's Avatar
    I also saw the announcement about Nokia and i think its great that they are making a comeback. Android is obviously the most logical choice for them but W10M and even possibly W8.1 still has a lot going for it and it appeals to a lot of people out there. A couple of people in my class at college have Windows 8.1 and W10M device and they still love them. So don't count it out just yet. :)
    Laura Knotek and ananve like this.
    01-10-2017 04:51 AM
  19. techiez's Avatar
    I just read on Android Central about the Nokia Android that HMD has produced, well I moved to Android platform at the begining of the year cos my L640XL charging port got broken and after seeing how not interested Microsoft is with its mobile platform I decided to get an Android device than to repair the 640XL.

    My first Windows phone device was the Lumia 520, I used it cos it was made by Nokia and they promised future system updates (which they fulfilled). And Nokia promise to build an Android phone was actually the main reason I left Windows ecosystem cos they never let me down.

    So who is joining me in the Android ecosystem soon?

    Waiting for a camera beast from Nokia to mk the jump, my Lumia 730 is now showing signs of aging, n I'm not in US to get W10M options, have no option left to be on W10m.
    theefman likes this.
    01-10-2017 07:49 AM
  20. techiez's Avatar
    Except that someone else is designing it, and MS owns the camera IP used in the old models.
    Nope it doesnt, but HMD has access to it as Nokia R&D was still improving their camera tech after selling off mobile division to MS, for their OZO camera.
    01-10-2017 07:53 AM
  21. earthman007's Avatar
    No, of course I'm not moving - I've been through the 7, 8 and on to 10's, which is very good and delivers what I want, unlike those other operating systems. I've been a firm fan of Nokia mobiles for years but don't want to use that OS, which doesn't meet my needs. If their handsets are great and can be loaded with windows, then I'd consider them. I don't buy handsets as disposable items, I buy them as good longer term investments and consume goods responsibly. Plenty of life left in my windows handsets and OS.
    01-10-2017 09:14 AM
  22. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Nope it doesnt, but HMD has access to it as Nokia R&D was still improving their camera tech after selling off mobile division to MS, for their OZO camera.
    PureView, Clear Black and other Nokia items are now owned by Microsoft.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    01-10-2017 10:46 AM
  23. techiez's Avatar
    PureView, Clear Black and other Nokia items are now owned by Microsoft.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    Yes I know that, but HMD also bought some IP back from MS, ofcourse m sure it will not include pureview but as I said Nokia's R&D continued on Ozo, HMD will try use whatever they can, they need the differentiation obviously, btw Juha Alakarhu is back to Nokia heading its imaging team for Ozo, so we shd expect some nice camera tech in future definitely
    01-10-2017 01:46 PM
  24. patcherd's Avatar
    PureView, Clear Black and other Nokia items are now owned by Microsoft.

    Sent from Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows via mTalk
    Do you know what patents Nokia kept ? I thought I read that when the phone division was sold to Microsoft that Nokia kept the patents and lisenced the clearblack, Pureview,..etc. to Microsoft? Maybe I have it wrong ?
    Shamshi-Adad likes this.
    01-10-2017 04:17 PM
  25. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Do you know what patents Nokia kept ? I thought I read that when the phone division was sold to Microsoft that Nokia kept the patents and lisenced the clearblack, Pureview,..etc. to Microsoft? Maybe I have it wrong ?
    Lumia, Clear Black, PureView and a few others belong to Microsoft. There were many reports on this including here on WC.
    libra89, Laura Knotek and aximtreo like this.
    01-10-2017 05:23 PM
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