05-31-2017 10:08 AM
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  1. formalcomparison's Avatar
    Both the surface laptop and the new surface pro will be available on June 15. Do you think is a good idea? I mean , windows 10 S need many people that use it to help him grow and became really better and it's currently available only on the surface laptop. Relasing the surface pro along with the laptop will definitely takes many people away from the laptop and the world of windows 10 s. This will cause many trouble to the OS to grow and , as a consequence , it will slow down the growth of the store. Moreover , even if they are both amazing devices , due to their price , people will have to choose only one of them.
    05-25-2017 12:19 PM
  2. ttsoldier's Avatar
    Believe it or not there are people out there who do not like the 2 in one form factor and prefer the conventional laptop style.

    The surface laptop will appeal to them.
    kaktus1389 and raqball like this.
    05-25-2017 09:09 PM
  3. raycpl's Avatar
    True
    My wife uses a Surface 3 with the keyboard almost permanently detached, ie a tablet and I am useless without keyboard and a mouse, and I want a touchscreen too.. Surface laptop is on my radar

    ... !!
    05-25-2017 09:46 PM
  4. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    A lot of people with surface pro would not have bought a surface laptop, myself included. The laptop is a downgrade compared to even my SP3 in my opinion because it takes away from functionality.

    These are 2 different devices aimed at 2 different markets.
    05-25-2017 09:47 PM
  5. Surapathi_121-0's Avatar
    It is true but no one can stop making decisions. But I think people will choose surface laptop for its screen size because surface pro is smaller than the laptop.
    05-25-2017 11:18 PM
  6. meattray's Avatar
    As stated above I think that have different targets with each of these devices so I don't see it being a huge issue. I'm personally glad there is choice for the consumer.
    05-25-2017 11:22 PM
  7. Rafael Martins1's Avatar
    Believe it or not there are people out there who do not like the 2 in one form factor and prefer the conventional laptop style.

    The surface laptop will appeal to them.
    Exacly.
    05-26-2017 12:49 AM
  8. k1s23's Avatar
    Believe it or not there are people out there who do not like the 2 in one form factor and prefer the conventional laptop style.

    The surface laptop will appeal to them.
    hey there. i dont have a preference between 2 in 1 and the regular laptop style, but i do prefer both over tablet style. thats one of the reasons why im going with the surface laptop.
    05-26-2017 02:20 AM
  9. k1s23's Avatar
    i think it was okay to decide to release both on the same day. from day 1, people can decide between a laptop or a tablet and compare specs before buying. they are almost similar in that the surface pro can use the type cover attached at the base (making it similar to a laptop), but at least consumers have a choice. also, at least the sales people and consumers can compare the most current of models for both devices in person. imagine if the sales people said "here is the surface laptop, and here is the surface pro 4 which is similar to the new surface pro not available yet but will be coming soon". for sales and just for the company overall it wouldnt look good.
    05-26-2017 02:20 AM
  10. formalcomparison's Avatar
    i think it was okay to decide to release both on the same day. from day 1, people can decide between a laptop or a tablet and compare specs before buying. they are almost similar in that the surface pro can use the type cover attached at the base (making it similar to a laptop), but at least consumers have a choice. also, at least the sales people and consumers can compare the most current of models for both devices in person. imagine if the sales people said "here is the surface laptop, and here is the surface pro 4 which is similar to the new surface pro not available yet but will be coming soon". for sales and just for the company overall it wouldnt look good.
    I agree with you , having a choice is a fantastic opportunity but there is a difference between the two devices. The surface pro doesn't need many people buying it to give to his OS a boost while the surface laptop , having windows 10 S , need as many consumers as possible to let the store and the OS grow , to be more competitive on the market. If we were talking about two devices with very different use that would not be a problem but here we are talking about a laptop with a "new" Os and a "tablet that can repleace your laptop" with windows pro.
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    05-26-2017 07:45 AM
  11. formalcomparison's Avatar
    Believe it or not there are people out there who do not like the 2 in one form factor and prefer the conventional laptop style.

    The surface laptop will appeal to them.
    You're right , but there're also many people who are really uncertain between 2 in 1 form or laptop. For some people and students the tablet form is really comfortable and versatile but there're also use to the laptop form. The surface laptop aims to students but some of them will be take away from it and this won't help his OS. This decision from Microsoft give to us more choice and is a great thing , but it will also slow down the growth of the store
    05-26-2017 08:02 AM
  12. AndyCalling's Avatar
    I don't get this 'aimed at students' concept. Remember, students are usually pretty low on cash, so they generally buy second hand devices. Certainly was the case when I was at university. I expect students will buy these things, but in 3 or so years time from the newspaper or from eBay. Not from MS brand new for a 4 figure sum, surely? There's beer to buy first.
    05-26-2017 08:09 AM
  13. Timbre70's Avatar
    Times have changed. Kids no longer sport cheap hand me down devices.
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    05-26-2017 08:49 AM
  14. k1s23's Avatar
    I don't get this 'aimed at students' concept. Remember, students are usually pretty low on cash, so they generally buy second hand devices. Certainly was the case when I was at university. I expect students will buy these things, but in 3 or so years time from the newspaper or from eBay. Not from MS brand new for a 4 figure sum, surely? There's beer to buy first.
    hey there. yes, students can be low on cash but parents buy things for their children. also, go on campus and count the macbooks (any model). macbooks are pricey yet they are everywhere on school grounds and starbucks. dont forget that both companies offer student discounts. comparing devices after the student discounts, the lowest model of the surface laptop is $899 whereas the lowest model of the macbook air after the student discount is $949 ( https://www.apple.com/us-hed/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air ). want to get a macbook? sorry that costs more ( https://www.apple.com/us-hed/shop/buy-mac/macbook ).
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    05-26-2017 09:12 AM
  15. k1s23's Avatar
    Times have changed. Kids no longer sport cheap hand me down devices.

    timbre70 i agree. its more and more common these days to see good quality computers owned by younger (still in school) people.
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    05-26-2017 09:15 AM
  16. k1s23's Avatar
    I agree with you , having a choice is a fantastic opportunity but there is a difference between the two devices. The surface pro doesn't need many people buying it to give to his OS a boost while the surface laptop , having windows 10 S , need as many consumers as possible to let the store and the OS grow , to be more competitive on the market. If we were talking about two devices with very different use that would not be a problem but here we are talking about a laptop with a "new" Os and a "tablet that can repleace your laptop" with windows pro.
    hey there. you are right that there are differences between the 2 devices. however, for general users windows 10 s is just fine. general users meaning edge the office suite and probably the mail app. i think with just these 3 apps a good amount of people are covered with their needs, and if they want to download something like messenger, facebook, line, netflix, hulu, etc. then thats also available in the windows store along with itunes and spotify which are upcoming. i think the windows store will grow because this is the only way to download apps for surface laptop and windows 10 s users.
    05-26-2017 09:28 AM
  17. MoggyMisc's Avatar
    It's pity to see children (actually their parents) in my country being rich enough to buy PCs but not interested in it.
    Some claim even college-graduates do not know how to work on desktop PCs, or at least not used to it; they prefer smartphones. What a tech-dinosaur country.

    How can adults make children more interested in tech?
    05-26-2017 09:58 AM
  18. k1s23's Avatar
    It's pity to see children (actually their parents) in my country being rich enough to buy PCs but not interested in it.
    Some claim even college-graduates do not know how to work on desktop PCs, or at least not used to it; they prefer smartphones. What a tech-dinosaur country.

    How can adults make children more interested in tech?
    hey moggymisc. what country do you live in? i think thats starting to be a trend everywhere. i much rather prefer to type on my computer since im quicker at doing things (and therefore less lazy) than on my phone, but i can think of people in my extended family that only have phones, just like where you are from. do you know if these people also type reports on their phones? i would hate doing that. :O
    05-26-2017 10:42 AM
  19. Surapathi_121-0's Avatar
    No, because Surface Laptop's sales gets decreased and the laptop costs more than Surface Pro.
    05-26-2017 12:46 PM
  20. formalcomparison's Avatar
    Times have changed. Kids no longer sport cheap hand me down devices.
    Yes , that's true but also because of the school's requests and the trending. Now at some university we're ask to download some program and to do presentation, researches , graphics ext so if you've a powerful pc these works takes you less time and is better
    05-26-2017 01:36 PM
  21. kaktus1389's Avatar
    I don't remember if I read that here or on MS Power User but I know I did read about availability of Windows 10 S on Surface Pro and Surface Book - like that one would be able to choose between Windows 10 S or Pro but that's all I remember, so perhaps we are going to see that happen on the June 15th as well.

    As already mentioned in the thread I believe that it's a great idea since the Surface Book and Surface Pro 4 also launched on the same day (to my knowledge) and yet the Surface Book was meant more for traditionalist who are going to use the device primarily as a laptop and Surface Pro 4 is quite the opposite. I think it's pretty much the same here, except that the Surface Laptop doesn't have a dGPU model and it is 100% traditional laptop unlike Surface Book.
    05-26-2017 01:43 PM
  22. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    I think it's for the better, not for the worse. Microsoft is offering consumers the choice between two beautiful, polished devices in two different form factors. And, in the future, I believe Microsoft plans to offer a "Pro-only" Surface Laptop and a "S-only" Surface Pro. They'll probably wait until after the free upgrade to Pro promotion is over, but I think it'll come.
    05-26-2017 04:17 PM
  23. kashgohel's Avatar
    Personally I think its to do with marketing. If you look at what is trending it's currently Microsoft and all its daring designs. So launching one thing after another is like having a New year's eve fireworks display. Something that makes a bold statement and is memorable for months to come. it's the ruling of the "airwaves"
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    05-26-2017 05:04 PM
  24. k1s23's Avatar
    Yes , that's true but also because of the school's requests and the trending. Now at some university we're ask to download some program and to do presentation, researches , graphics ext so if you've a powerful pc these works takes you less time and is better
    hey there. its great to know that both the surface pro and surface laptop are totally capable of doing these things, with the exception of high end graphics (which is what a desktop or more high-end laptop is for). many students can be productive and get work done on either device. of course, the amount of ram does make a difference but for basic tasks like research either the surface pro or surface laptop are capable.
    05-26-2017 07:53 PM
  25. k1s23's Avatar
    I think it's for the better, not for the worse. Microsoft is offering consumers the choice between two beautiful, polished devices in two different form factors. And, in the future, I believe Microsoft plans to offer a "Pro-only" Surface Laptop and a "S-only" Surface Pro. They'll probably wait until after the free upgrade to Pro promotion is over, but I think it'll come.
    hey there, it definitely is for the better for them to release both items on the same day. besides looks, both the surface laptop and surface pro (which needed a refresh; the surface pro 4 was released 1 1/2 years ago) will be top of the line when they are both released.
    05-26-2017 07:57 PM
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