According to Thurrott on WP 8.1, this is it.

[Jazmac]

So I read this story from Paul Thurrott about the latest update and in the story he said definitively, this OS we currently run is it. This is it. I've heard others in the forum say this was it but Thurrott has more at stake than a voice in this forum. IOW, He is pretty much on-point on all things Windows. Anyway, the word "lugubrious" comes to mind after reading his blog. Anyway, I hope there are some spanking new devices are announced when 8.1 hits the masses. Some bad A features we don't yet know this phone can do or some mind blowing innovation in the OS.

I've had this thought that the new CEO might be looking over the landscape at the 94 percent split between IOS and android and decide he can't risk his leadership and financial investment it will take to confront that reality. I don't yet know if Nadella is that fearless leader yet. I can't tel if he has the the backbone or the stones or just another policy wonk. I need to know if Microsoft, specifically the new CEO is serious about WP. I don't mean "yeah we got one too" kind of serious, I mean ride or die serious. Time will tell..and the clock is ticking.

 

[T Moore]

To be little clearer, the updates to 8.1 are done.

 

[Guytronic]

Good words Jaz...
I agree Thurrott is not to be taken lightly.
His blog is spot on he seems to know things even before MSFT finalizes things.

 

[Laura Knotek]

Good words Jaz...
I agree Thurrott is not to be taken lightly.
His blog is spot on he seems to know things even before MSFT finalizes things.

I agree. I do not listen to any podcasts about Microsoft other than Windows Weekly on Twit.TV.

 

[JamesPTao]

Thanks that's nice to know. So I guess the question now is what cyan will bring (except the obvious like fixing 8.1 running issues for individual phones like Bluetooth on mine). You guys definetly seem to know what's going on. Any links I should check out on this subject that you recommend?

 

[Laura Knotek]

Thanks that's nice to know. So I guess the question now is what cyan will bring (except the obvious like fixing 8.1 running issues for individual phones like Bluetooth on mine). You guys definetly seem to know what's going on. Any links I should check out on this subject that you recommend?

http://twit.tv/show/windows-weekly

Daniel Rubino has been a guest on that show.

 

[Jazmac]

The word is "lugubrious" and "tell". It's a shame I can't seem to spell check my own prose.

 

[Laura Knotek]

The word is "lugubrious" and "tell". It's a shame I can't seem to spell check my own prose.

I fixed it.

 

[gwinegarden]

"Anyway, I hope there are some spanking new devices are announced when 8.1 hits the masses. Some bad A features we don't yet know this phone can do or some mind blowing innovation in the OS."

Wow! Most of us don't even have 8.1 and you are already bored with it.

 

[Jazmac]

"Anyway, I hope there are some spanking new devices are announced when 8.1 hits the masses. Some bad A features we don't yet know this phone can do or some mind blowing innovation in the OS."

Wow! Most of us don't even have 8.1 and you are already bored with it.

Don't misunderstand. I'm not bored with it. Just wait until you get it, then we'll talk.

 

[mary beth hale]

Don't misunderstand. I'm not bored with it. Just wait until you get it, then we'll talk.

Not bored either. Really enjoying 8.1. It runs beautifully on my Ativ S. The problem (for me) is I will be ready for a new phone in two or three months. Not sure I see much reason to spend a lot on a high end WP other than some added RAM and bigger processor. Not a power user so the beefier specs mean little to me. What is my impetus to purchase new WP, then? You bring up some great questions in your opening post.

 

[mparker]

...this OS we currently run is it.

That's a shame. There's far too many critical bugs in this version. Actually, WP has been going downhill reliability-wise since NoDo. My Focus never had battery problems or system lock-ups. Starting with Mango every version has been less and less reliable.

 

[rkarolak]

That's a shame. There's far too many critical bugs in this version. Actually, WP has been going downhill reliability-wise since NoDo. My Focus never had battery problems or system lock-ups. Starting with Mango every version has been less and less reliable.

That's unfortunate. I wonder if it's device-specific. My 1020 has been very reliable so far with 8.1

 

[A895]

That's a shame. There's far too many critical bugs in this version. Actually, WP has been going downhill reliability-wise since NoDo. My Focus never had battery problems or system lock-ups. Starting with Mango every version has been less and less reliable.

Now thinking on it, when it was WP7, I never heard of as many problems people have on WP8. Maybe what I have been seeing is that maybe WP8 was alpha and 8.1 is the beta version. Maybe 8.2 will be the real stable through and through version. I just don't understand, why a company who has a smaller user base would risk it by being slow with feature updates and risking the chance of competitors doing your own vision before you do it. Apple is literally doing what Windows and Windows Phone is supposed to do, but the difference is that it is happening within a few months compared to next year.

God knows what Google does as they have a lot of potential too.

 

[Neo Nuke]

So what happened to the cool lock screen unlock animations?

 

[colinkiama]

So what happened to the cool lock screen unlock animations?

Gdr....

 

[tgp]

Now thinking on it, when it was WP7, I never heard of as many problems people have on WP8.

I personally had a lot less trouble with WP7 than with WP8. For one thing, there wasn't nearly as much to go wrong. It was quite barren feature-wise, but it worked pretty good. The more there is, the more there is to go wrong. WP8.1 is adding features similar to Android, and along with that it's getting Android's initial teething problems.

 

[MDK22]

Now thinking on it, when it was WP7, I never heard of as many problems people have on WP8. Maybe what I have been seeing is that maybe WP8 was alpha and 8.1 is the beta version. Maybe 8.2 will be the real stable through and through version. I just don't understand, why a company who has a smaller user base would risk it by being slow with feature updates and risking the chance of competitors doing your own vision before you do it. Apple is literally doing what Windows and Windows Phone is supposed to do, but the difference is that it is happening within a few months compared to next year.

God knows what Google does as they have a lot of potential too.

Soooo, let me get this straight - you want it quick & fast ?

There is much more integration as we progress, thus more of the OS to go wrong. Personally, I LUV WinPhone 8.1 Dev Preview, it's been stable since 3 days in & I look forward to the Nokia Lumia enhancements with Lumia Cyan. I would imagine a good percentage of the issues (75% ?) revolve around non-optimized / non-upgraded apps you may be running on your device.

Reality SUCKS, but the takeaway is - you rarely get it GOOD & FAST unless you throw major $$ at it, with commensurate skilled manpower. I emphasive the skilled because WinPhone 8.1 is a departure from WinPhone 8. They've removed features of the OS, relegated them to super app status, to allow for updates / bug fixes quicker - they update the app without a GDR (OS) update. Only time will tell, but in approx a month, you should have (carrier / region dependent) the full blown WinPhone 8.1 update & for Nokia (MS) phones, the Lumia Cyan enhancements.

 

[Lumiamike]

I just been looking at the list of Lumia phones available and i see no reason to upgrade either, there is no killer must have feature on high end phones, the bigger camera is nice but a killer feature no, i think my phone is the sweet spot of Lumias, perfect size 4.3", great battery life, no issues with 8.1, upgradeable memory with SD space and with thanks to the Os its snappy and never lags ... if we stay at 8.?? forever, i`m happy

 

[LennH]

That app should be ready with the release of Cyan.