Glad Nokia ISN'T announcing EOS

[xconomicron]

Not quite, it also targets people who wants to totally replace their digital camera with the phone and currently that is where the market is headed towards. I can safely say that my 920 has replaced my digital camera for videos.

In any case I'm also glad that they're not going to be annoucing EOS at all, gives them more time to work on it and release it in the fall when all the other phones will be release.

You do know that Nokia has long delays between announcements and releases right?

 

[rmichael75]

This is why I believe HTC's quality has stayed steady and if anything has just been improving. They leave a long decent gap between bringing out new models, especially windows phone. They waited nearly a year from bringing out the Titan to bringing out the 8X. HTC do thoroughly test their phone to make sure they can stand up to wear an tear, this is something Nokia have been doing but if they fall into the same trap as Samsung then they are going to loose their supposedly solid quality reputation which I think they lost when they outsourced their production from Finland to mass production firms in China which arguably aren't as well trained or have as sophisticated production methods as the very clever Finns themselves, cough* Foxconn cough*

Right you forgot the problems with titan and the titan 2 which was launched along with Lumia 900. They didnt support Titan 2 so thats why you dont know. They launched 8 X along with 920. The launched plenty of android phones which flopped and had lot of problems.

Nokia had to release phones to survive.

 

[vlad0]

I don't think that the eos device will be niche because of the form factor, or the camera, but rather because of the price. It will be able to do everything that any other high end wp can and more.. And I doubt that it would be much heavier than the 920. They know what they are doing, I can't find a reasoable explanation as to why its taking so long when they have the tech ready to go, but I am sure that there is one. I also don't understand why they haven't used the system from the Nokia N8 in Any of the midrange devices.. It has proven to be the second best system around for over 3 years. You get 1.75 micron pixels, wide fast lens, xenon flash, lossless zooming during video. Its much more capable than Any of the current lumia offerings bar the 920 .. And that is Also debatable. It just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[tonyluo2001]

Actually, I think Nokia made a very successful press in this MWC, without announcing EOS, Catwalk or the Verizon 920 variant. It's simply not the time to do it, but releasing 720 and 520 means they have already placed a complete product line for WP8, which is within only in half a year. From 520 to 920, we already see various combination of specs and market positions. L920, as the flagship, is still starting to pick up the numbers in many new markets, and its specs are still very competitive to others. And Verizon's market is not Europe. It makes no sense to release its variant in the show.

With these thinkings, Nokia has no need to release any flagship at the moment. So far, WP8 is pushing a lot of phones with similar specs and same apps to the market. Even for Nokia, the only major difference in their line is the camera. We can use the same drive, music, or map apps on different phones. Unless MS is playing the same game like Google on Android (release new features/systems but kick old phones out of update list), I don't think they will release brand new phones too soon on the same platform.

 

[vlad0]

Finally some inside info on the kernel ... I don't know why no one asked Nokia whats holding things up at MWC, but Symon Whitehorn from HTC kind of spoke out ..

Zoe Camera not coming to Windows Phone, confirms HTC - Pocket-lint

"The problem, according to Whitehorn, is down to the Windows Phone camera kernel, which restricts what can be done."

also on Phase 1:

""commendable effort", but that Nokia "pay a penalty in physical size","

Well.. considering the available sensor technology today, there is no other way to provide any real image quality improvements without using bigger sensors and optics. HTCs approach is a step in the right direction, but still far from what Nokia's phase 1 can do..

 

[pavvento]

With all of the production problems Nokia has been having I don't think it is wise to introduce an entirely new product just yet. They need to ship the 920 to the places that still have high demand for it and produce the 520 and the 720. Considering they had production problems when it was just two phones they were trying to make, I don't see how they could be expected to increase production of the 920, produce the 520 and 720 AND produce a brand new phone to adequate levels.

My hope is that these problems are being addressed and that springtime will see all of their phones widely available in sufficient quantities. The question is whether they would go for a late spring/summer release or wait until the fall and release the EOS as well as a 920 successor in time for the holidays.