nice to meet you guys, yeah google navigation was plus but I just bought turn by turn app and it works just fine..as far as mango I heard it was gonna be released sep.22? Oh and as far as the custom roms I agree, It's tiring and seems like for every gain you have to take a loss. I dont understand why verizon is pushing android so much and they actually got a little nasty with me when I asked about my free xbox game!! I hope wp7 cures the android sickness, I played with all the android phones in the store and not even the dual core beast could come close to matching the perfomance of my trophy.