How is Nokia so stupid for not releasing the 920 on Verizon?

[brmiller1976]

Nokia could easily convert iPhone people to 920s. The problem is that they'll ask "is it on T-Mobile/Verizon?" and when they hear they have to switch carriers, interest will instantly vanish for 90% of them.

 

[aventador779]

Nokia could easily convert iPhone people to 920s. The problem is that they'll ask "is it on T-Mobile/Verizon?" and when they hear they have to switch carriers, interest will instantly vanish for 90% of them.

2/3 of people to be more exact. And considering most people are on contract on AT&T, even less.

EDIT: Even more I mean. Even more can't get the 920.

 

[VagrantWade]

Link to proof that Verizon even wanted to subsidize it?

Still waiting for a response to this. HTC fans have taken over the thread with their tears from having to settle.

 

[aventador779]

Still waiting for a response to this. HTC fans have taken over the thread with their tears from having to settle.

Or how about you give US (I'm not an HTC ******) a link that Verizon denied it?

Point is Verizon would never deny the 920, it's a great device and if they can get the 822 then they could get the 922.

 

[VagrantWade]

Point is Verizon would never deny the 920, it's a great device and if they can get the 822 then they could get the 922.

Of course they would. Windows phone has 3% marketshare and Microsoft is helping HTC subsidize the 8X.

AT&T is now footing the entire bill for Nokia.

So glad I left Verizon.

 

[aventador779]

Of course they would. Windows phone has 3% marketshare and Microsoft is helping HTC subsidize the 8X.

AT&T is now footing the entire bill for Nokia.

So glad I left Verizon.

If they wouldn't carry the 922 BECAUSE of the 3% marketshare, then they wouldn't carry the 8X or the 822. Derp.

 

[VagrantWade]

If they wouldn't carry the 922 because of the 3% marketshare, then they wouldn't carry the 8X or the 822. Derp.

So...I'm going to assume you are young and just have no idea what I just said. Because you in no way properly responded to it. Or you just don't know what subsidization is.

And you keep talking about a 922 that doesn't exist.

 

[aventador779]

So...I'm going to assume you are young and just have no idea what I just said. Because you in no way properly responded to it. Or you just don't know what subsidization is.

And you keep talking about a 922 that doesn't exist.

For what reason would they deny the 920/922/920 variant? If it was to exist

 

[VagrantWade]

For what reason would they deny the 920/922/920 variant? If it was to exist

There has never been a single credible mention of a Lumia 922 lol.

 

[brmiller1976]

Microsoft is helping HTC subsidize the 8X.

Utter nonsense.

Microsoft is subsidizing only one company -- Nokia -- with $1 billion/year in cash payments.

 

[VagrantWade]

Utter nonsense.

Microsoft is subsidizing only one company -- Nokia -- with $1 billion/year in cash payments.

Rumor: Microsoft Paying Part Of Subsidy To Release Windows Phone 8X On 3 US Carriers | WMPoweruser

 

[brmiller1976]

Oh, a WMPoweruser "rumor."

Sorry, fell for that before when they claimed to have inside knowledge that Nokia was planning to sue HTC over the 8 series.

As the old song goes, I won't be fooled again.

Besides, Nokia is KNOWN to get subsidies. If subsidies guarantee easy availability of handsets, then Nokia should have an easy time of getting them on every US carrier.

 

[VagrantWade]

Oh, a WMPoweruser "rumor."

Sorry, fell for that before when they claimed to have inside knowledge that Nokia was planning to sue HTC over the 8 series.

As the old song goes, I won't be fooled again.

Besides, Nokia is KNOWN to get subsidies. If subsidies guarantee easy availability of handsets, then Nokia should have an easy time of getting them on every US carrier.

They did get a subsidy. AT&T. Who is footing the entire bill plus marketing.

Verizon only cares about those trash Droid phones.

 

[brmiller1976]

So essentially, your argument is illogical. Thanks for clarifying!

 

[aventador779]

They did get a subsidy. AT&T. Who is footing the entire bill plus marketing.

Verizon only cares about those trash Droid phones.

Not true

 

[VagrantWade]

So essentially, your argument is illogical. Thanks for clarifying!

Which part? Verizon is carrying the 8X because Microsoft is covering part of the subsidy.

We have no evidence that anyone offered Nokia a similar deal.

Not true

Which part?

 

[anon(5335877)]

Now, why are we having this argument again? Microsoft is going to unveil WP8 tomorrow. Why can't you guys just look forward to that instead of having the same argument ten times over? I just keep hearing the same stuff over and over again.

 

[Reflexx]

OK, Nokia people, your argument is inconsistent.



First, you claim Nokia is better than HTC and can sell more WPs worldwide. Then, you claim that Nokia cannot sell as many WPs as HTC in the US, since HTC is a more credible brand, and were thus forced into another brain dead exclusive, destined to fail.



Which is it? It can't be both.

People often stay with brands that they are familiar with.

HTC and Samsung have an established reputation for smartphones in the US. Nokia does not. To many, they are an interesting unknown.

Nokia first needs to establish their brand name in Smartphones. That is most quickly done with the help of a carrier pushing it.

 

[Reflexx]

I don't know what other people are saying, but HTC is going the right route. Why? Because OBVIOUSLY if you want to sell more devices, you have to make the device AVAILABLE to more people. Any idiot can understand that.

Are you insinuating that those that understand Nokia's strategy are idiots?

Perhaps you are making the scenario sound much more one dimensional and simple than it really is. Yet seeing other facets is somehow idiotic?

 

[brmiller1976]

To reiterate, there is only one WP OEM confirmed to be receiving subsidies to the tune of $1 billion a year from Microsoft -- Nokia.