Is Microsoft and OpenAI's tech bromance fraying? The ChatGPT maker's GPT-4 model is "too slow and expensive" to meet Copilot 365 users' needs.

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Translation: The "AI" hype bubble is about to burst.

Companies can only lose 5 billion dollars a year for a very short time. Once investors get tired of being duped/burned, it will be Good Night Gracie for "AI".
 
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It means MS has milked OpenAI for all it needed to boost its inhouse efforts and is getting ready to Spyglass them. Time to switch to models they don't have to share.
It has always been in the cards. Either MS controls the tech or they ditch OpenAI and since a buyout is unlikely...
 
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Translation: The "AI" hype bubble is about to burst.

Companies can only lose 5 billion dollars a year for a very short time. Once investors get tired of being duped/burned, it will be Good Night Gracie for "AI".
Worth remembering that " People always overestimate the short term impact of a new tech and vastly underestimate the long term impact." -- Bill Gates.

So the much hyped "AI" hasn't put everybody out of work in two years?
It never was going to, pearl clutchers aside.

That said, wait a bit (say, five years) and you'll see what generative software leads to.

"The internet is just a fad." Luddites, Circa 1995. Hasn't aged well, has it?
 

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"The internet is just a fad." Luddites, Circa 1995. Hasn't aged well, has it?

I don't remember anyone saying that. Because computer networking was always a huge thing.

Sounds like something magazine/newspaper/encyclopedia publishers would say. Because they were scared. Like Polaroid when digital cameras came along.

In 5 years "AI" will be a quaint memory. Like "smart speakers" are today. Like "virtual reality" is today. Both of those were hyped just like "AI" was being hyped 2 years ago.

Real tech progress happens without hype. The IBM PC was laughed at in 1981. The Apple iPhone was also laughed at. Ditto the iPad. Unix was created to help manage the AT&T phone network.

Now PCs are The Standard. iPhones created the current HUGE mobile space. Unix now runs the world, running on everything from mainframes to PCs to all phones to watches.

All of these literally changed the world, and none were hyped AT ALL.
 

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"The internet is just a fad." Luddites, Circa 1995. Hasn't aged well, has it?

I don't remember anyone saying that. Because computer networking was always a huge thing.

Sounds like something magazine/newspaper/encyclopedia publishers would say. Because they were scared. Like Polaroid when digital cameras came along.

In 5 years "AI" will be a quaint memory. Like "smart speakers" are today. Like "virtual reality" is today. Both of those were hyped just like "AI" was being hyped 2 years ago.

Real tech progress happens without hype. The IBM PC was laughed at in 1981. The Apple iPhone was also laughed at. Ditto the iPad. Unix was created to help manage the AT&T phone network.

Now PCs are The Standard. iPhones created the current HUGE mobile space. Unix now runs the world, running on everything from mainframes to PCs to all phones to watches.

All of these literally changed the world, and none were hyped AT ALL.
Phones weren't hyped?
The entire post-PC narrative never happened?
You missed Steve Jobs dog and pony shows? The tech media hyping the latest and greatest Android flavor?
Oh, it happened. And it is still happening.

And so did the internet pooh-poohing.
Most of it came in and from the media that was losing its cash cow but it was a thing. And those are precisely the outfits leading the charge against generative software applications. For the same reason. Their ox is getting gored. Tough place to be. But as the old saying goes "When it';s time for railroads, the trains will roll." Entropy always wins.

All new tech is always attacked by entrenched powers seeing their cushy revenue streams being displaced. Just as true believers spread their "gospel" evangelizing the nirvana to come. The hype.
AI is no different.
Not. At. All.

The only new tech that isn't attacked is the one that is worthless. Looms were attacked. Cars were attacked. Microwaves were attacked Smartphones were attacked. And in many circles most are still attacked. The world changes and tech never stands still regardless of the inevitable naysayers.

As for internet speakers? Look again: the speakers are the product. The tech is voice assistants for consumer electronics. And on case you hadn't noticed, they're all over. Every Smart TV has the tech in its remote. Phones have it. And the tech is still evolving, adopting generative software and spreading to other products. It hasn't gone away and it's not going away.

And the speakers themselves are a $10B+ a year business and still growing. Projected to hit $20B by 2030. No, they did not set the world on fire, but have you noticed the withering of home sound systems and boom boxes? Connected speakers have eaten the low end of both markets as audio subscriptions have displaced a good chunk of physical media and even digital sales.

The things are so ubiquitous nobody pays attention but they're there just like can openers and microwave overs. And that is *exactly* what happens with successful techs and products: the evangelists win and go home.

When people stop arguing over "AI" generative software it won't be because the hype is over, it will be because there is no more point in debating the fait accompli. It will be embedded everywhere just like the internet.
 
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