Is the Lumia 1020 a better camera than a entry level point and shoot?

[crash1989]

another test done with a entry level 300$ P&S and 1020. Whose pics are better? (I say both deliver almost the same quality with 1020 a bit more saturated)

Nokia Lumia 1020 vs DSLR! (Full Review) - YouTube

 

[crash1989]

actually here is the blog post Video: Nokia Lumia 1020 vs DSLR (For a Phone, sharpness and clarity, it’s the best you’re gonna get) : My Nokia Blog

 

[tgr42]

And against something that is out of it's league.. the Nikon D800, but if you down sample both to about 8Mpix, the difference diminishes.. the Nikon is still way better tho

https://skydrive.live.com/pagenotfounderror

Now that is an interesting shot to compare. You can really see some differences in quality! Rightly so, of course. Here are two crops of roughly the same area resized down to the same size for easy flipping between images:

http://i.imgur.com/0aNUfSe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FNz7wL2.jpg

 

[Reflexx]

another test done with a entry level 300$ P&S and 1020. Whose pics are better? (I say both deliver almost the same quality with 1020 a bit more saturated)

Nokia Lumia 1020 vs DSLR! (Full Review) - YouTube

That was pretty impressive. The night shots definitely looked excellent for the 1020.

I did notice that in video mode the camera had trouble deciding where to focus, so we'd see some blur come in and out.

 

[SuperMAG]

can anyone make crops from these 808 comparasions, and crop from that 1020 video, it will show us clear picture.

 

[Jaripi]

I've tested the pureview system against all sorts of cameras.. it can hang with most low to mid end cameras out there, and certain older DSLRs

And against something that is out of it's league.. the Nikon D800, but if you down sample both to about 8Mpix, the difference diminishes.. the Nikon is still way better tho

https://skydrive.live.com/pagenotfounderror

There is no reason for the 1020 not to do just as well.. or at least close to it.

I really prefer Pureview 808 photo - it just looks great ... Nikon D800 photo looks dull

 

[vlad0]

^ well... the IQ on the Nikon photo is superior in every way But if you just look at them at 800x600.. ya, some people might like the 808 color reproduction a bit better.

can anyone make crops from these 808 comparasions, and crop from that 1020 video, it will show us clear picture.

What do you mean ?

Now that is an interesting shot to compare. You can really see some differences in quality! Rightly so, of course. Here are two crops of roughly the same area resized down to the same size for easy flipping between images:

http://i.imgur.com/0aNUfSe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FNz7wL2.jpg

The Nikon is very, very sharp.. it doesn't help that the 808's image is at 85% jpeg compression and the Nikon's at 98% .. but still, its pretty much no contest. In fact.. any full frame DSLR from the past 2-3 years will be well ahead of the pureview system.. but when you consider the devices we are actually comparing, it makes sense.

Point is.. P&S are on their way out A good camera phone + a decent FF DSLR should be more than enough for most people. I have an 808 and an old xti and I still can't use either of them to their full potential.

 

[EchoRedux]

I really prefer Pureview 808 photo - it just looks great ... Nikon D800 photo looks dull

Better get your eyes checked out.

 

[Jaripi]

Better get your eyes checked out.

Sorry that I prefer Pureview 808 photo instead of Nikon D800 ... well, my eyes should be just OK

 

[SuperMAG]

i mean like side by side fully zoomed crop from each picture (camera). so we can see the details, noise, colors etc.

 

[photobriangray]

The screen on the 1020 is better than almost all P&S cameras. The interface for using the camera I better than any P&S camera. The connectivity is far and away better than a P&S camera. The sensor is bigger with more megapixels than almost all P&S cameras.

Honestly, we'll see better and better shots coming out of 1020 users as everyone learns the software and tendencies. The P&S is dead.

 

[broar94]

^^ 1020 has AMOLED screen which means oversatured colors. you are not going to see the real picture I'm afraid. It's just going to be oversatured colors that you may not like the difference in the colors when you see on your regular computer monitor!

 

[photobriangray]

^^ 1020 has AMOLED screen which means oversatured colors. you are not going to see the real picture I'm afraid. It's just going to be oversatured colors that you may not like the difference in the colors when you see on your regular computer monitor!

Precisely why the 1020 has the ability to fine tune temperature and saturation. I will say that the screens on my D3 and D700 aren't perfect either, too bright at default.

 

[ParoleGA]

If you are after a camera, and have no need of a phone, I would not get the 1020. It does take great images, without a doubt, but only when you are in it's "wheelhouse". With it's fixed focal length, and relatively large aperture, it really doesn't have a lot of reach. There are much better all around P&S cameras in it's off contract price, and probable still quite a few in it subsidized price.

P.S.
This is coming from someone who has and loves his 1020. Just don't expect it to be something it isn't.

 

[SwimSwim]

It really is a great camera. Also take into account that it has a far easier to use interface than most point and shoots, plus sharing is really easy thanks to the Windows Phone OS (Which prides itself on sharing always being one tap away).

I'd say return the point-and-shoot and pick up a Lumia 1020. The Lumia is a far more versatile and useful device, and you won't feel weird carrying it around with you everywhere. After all, who wants to carry around a smartphone and a point-in-shoot these days? With the Lumia, you can rest assured you've always got a decent camera in your pocket, but it still acts as a great smartphone.

My apologies if it sounds like Nokia is paying me to write this, but that's honestly how I feel about my 1020. It acts as a great smartphone, that just so happens to have an incredible camera packed inside.

Granted, if you're zooming in really far, a point and shoot would probably win due to optical zoom. Also, some point and shoots may come with more control over the camera's settings. But if you don't care about zooming in on stuff half a mile away, and you always use automatic mode or tinker very lightly with the settings, then again, I recommend the Lumia 1020.

Hell, these days, I'd recommend almost any smartphone's camera over a point-and-shoot. Most smartphones are already "good enough", and then you don't have to worry about the extra baggage. The 1020 just takes things a step further, that's all. The point and shoot is pretty much dead, the real source of debate now is smartphone vs. dSLR. dSLR obviously still wins, but devices like the 1020 are really starting to close the gap.

All in all, I'd recommend just carrying around the 1020 to make your life easier, especially since it's likely to take better pics anyways. (Sorry for rambling on and sounding like a repetitive commercial, that's just how my mind works).

 

[LiveTilesRus]

I have a load of DSLR gear (Nikon) and a Canon G series P&S. Do I expect that a device without an optical zoom will beat a decent P&S with optical zoom? Not really, though I am amazed by some of the photos I have gotten out of the 1020. Alas you have to be realistic. This is great technology by Nokia in both hardware AND software. Respect it.

This is real:

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[INFO]Mainly the old saying: "The best camera is the one you have with you." It's good enough that you can take some good pics without needing to carry a separate camera around, which is the real game changer and the essence of a disruptive technology. It's the reason hardly anyone uses point and shoot cameras anymore. The 1020 offers the closest experience yet to a real camera instead of a phone camera.[/INFO]

 

[vlad0]

For most people the 1020 will be more than enough for every day photography. And like the above quite states.. its always with you, and nothing beats that. With a P&S you have to worry about carrying an extra device with you.

Like I said before, I sold my P&S in 2010 after I got the Nokia N8 and I don't feel like I've missed an opportunity for a good photograph by using my mobile as a main camera.

Here are some samples from my N8.. straight from the phone, no editing. It covers a pretty big range of different scenarios.. portraits, close ups, landscapes, night shots, flash/bar scenes.. which is what most people shoot anyway.


https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=424646B5863880EB!8092

The 1020 is better than the N8 in every way.. so..



You can click on these for full resolution.

Landscapes









high contrast scenes



Portrait



Portrait with flash




Concerts



more landscape


Aquarium



Night club



Close ups







Sunrises






Sunsets







Digital zoom



IQ



Color reproduction



The 808 and the 1020 take all of this even further... so.. I ask.. who needs a P&S ?

 

[photobriangray]

Excellent work, great composition. Anyone can take a crap picture on a great camera. This post shows the potential.

 

[ParoleGA]

Yeah, all those pictures were very nice, except for the concert pic. Landscape and near portraits are the wheelhouse for the wide angle PoV you get with a large aperture, short focal length lens. The 1020 is fantastic for those.

The concert pic is a problem, if you want to see any detail. The short reach of a fixed focal length, large aperture lens is a problem if you want detail and can't get close. Zoom/crop negates the wide angle for Macro shots, but it can't help on a subject you can't get close to.

 

[echoshizzle]

Great comparison! Did I see a store in there called Titty Twister?

I've tested the pureview system against all sorts of cameras.. it can hang with most low to mid end cameras out there, and certain older DSLRs

Here is a little test I did againt a mid range P&S: Canon SD 1200 .. its considered a decent cam by many

https://skydrive.live.com/pagenotfounderror

http://i.imgur.com/dQ7TIEE.jpg

Here is another one against my Canon XTi

https://skydrive.live.com/pagenotfounderror

It does quite well against that as well.

Against another good P&S: Canon G15

https://skydrive.live.com/pagenotfounderror

And here are some samples against one of the best P&S for sale at the moment, the Sony RX100

https://skydrive.live.com/pagenotfounderror

And against something that is out of it's league.. the Nikon D800, but if you down sample both to about 8Mpix, the difference diminishes.. the Nikon is still way better tho

http://sdrv.ms/17cThEv

There is no reason for the 1020 not to do just as well.. or at least close to it.




The 1020 is thinner, but it its bigger overall.. more volume

96.9cc vs. 95.5cc

Nokia Lumia 1020 vs. Nokia 808 PureView - GSMArena.com