Lenovo has unveiled the first true Steam Deck alternative with SteamOS... And even an early next-gen Legion Go prototype

[Windows Central]

Lenovo unleashed its next generation of gaming hardware at CES 2025, including the sleek Legion Go S with SteamOS and a Legion Go (Gen 2) prototype.

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[HeyCori]

Ultimately, I think this signals the slow death of Windows based handhelds. Despite the recent addition of Lenovo, ASUS, and MSI, smaller manufacturers have been making Windows handhelds for years.

You'd think that with the big boys stepping in, that would have prompted Nadella to do literally anything to improve Windows handhelds. Even something as basic as a launcher that sits on top of Windows (like Android) would have been helpful. Instead, many Windows handhelds still require attaching a physical keyboard during setup because there's no guarantee that the onscreen keyboard will work.

So I'm not surprised to see OEMs testing Steam because it provides a better user experience, and cheaper due to not having to license Windows. The second loser is Epic (and everyone else not named Steam) because now there's one less reason to buy games from another store.

 

[Lurking_Lurker_Lurks]

Funny how as right when people are talking about Microsoft considering licensing the Xbox OS for OEMs, Valve just immediately does it. If this is set to continue Valve might seriously disrupt the console market and that's been needed for a long time. Nintendo, Sony, and Xbox do need to wake up. Gaming has moved beyond their walled gardens. Xbox is currently the one closest to a more expansive and open ecosystem, but they also can't quite pick a lane. And hey, I'll be the first to admit that even I'm skeptical they can pull it off. An Xbox OEM could potentially be a massive mess and start to move Xbox "consoles" to the optimization and consistency hellscape on PC. I'm very interested in seeing how SteamOS does as it opens up to third party hardware.

 

[Lurking_Lurker_Lurks]

Ultimately, I think this signals the slow death of Windows based handhelds. Despite the recent addition of Lenovo, ASUS, and MSI, smaller manufacturers have been making Windows handhelds for years.

I mean you said it yourself, Windows based handhelds have been around for years long before the current push: they aren't going away. This is the start of Valve really pushing SteamOS as an alternative gaming operating system, but SteamOS is still not windows. As stated it only has access to a singular storefront/launcher and doesn't support every game (even those on Steam). While it is expected that Valve will inevitably grow the list of supported games, they will never make that every game just due to compatibility issues with legacy software and licensing and what not. SteamOS currently still has issues with DRM and anticheat games.

Not everything has to be the death of something else. That's one thing I really hate seeing on the internet. The overexaggerated XYZ-killer. Even now I'm seeing a LOT of news articles titled that the Steam Deck is dead because of this. It's like people want to live in a monopoly. I see this as a good wave of healthy competition. Much needed healthy competition. It's not like an alternative to windows for gaming is new. Heck, current windows handheld users have been able to download Bazzite (which offers a SteamOS like experience) for the longest. As a gaming OS, Windows has been sitting on its laurels for the past well ever. They were the default only option for the most part and knew that. Microsoft hasn't really done anything to actually stay competitive in the space (even when they literally created a gaming platform in Xbox). Now Apple is pushing more for PC gaming support on MacOS and through SteamOS Valve is heralding gaming on Linux. The majority of gamers are still going to be on windows for a long time and every PC game will likely continue to support windows in a way they just don't or can't on other operating systems. Not to mention that the vast majority of benefits that people equate to PC gaming will continue to only be available on Windows and when it comes to non-gaming uses Windows will continue to offer users a lot as well. Part of the allure of a Windows handheld is that it's just a Windows PC and that makes it usable for work and play.

I think it's very telling that Microsoft sent an Xbox exec to this event specifically to be part of the PC gaming handheld discussions. There's probably a lot of internal conversations going on for how to keep Windows as the number 1 gaming PC OS for decades to come, and how to combat losing market share in this space. That's a very good thing. I also think that with how much cheaper the SteamOS license cost is and how that leads to much lower prices, we'll continue to see these SteamOS handhelds hit markets with a console like experience and a console like price, and I hope that means we'll similarly see disruption in the console market with gamers questioning why the value of their consoles have stagnated so much (Nintendo and Sony don't even offer free cloud saves). That's also a very good thing. It looks like we're set to see much needed competition in places that there hasn't been in the gaming industry. That'll hopefully make all these companies wake up and compete to give us more value and just in general a better experience. The MOST improvements I've ever seen to the Xbox App on PC came post Steam Deck as the Xbox App on PC tried to really benefit from the Windows handhelds coming out and offer a more intuitive experience. That's what I expect to see more of.

 

[HeyCori]

I mean you said it yourself, Windows based handhelds have been around for years long before the current push: they aren't going away. This is the start of Valve really pushing SteamOS as an alternative gaming operating system, but SteamOS is still not windows.

Keep in mind that Valve doesn't need to replace Windows for gaming, they just need to replace Windows for - specifically - handhelds. That can happen regardless of the Windows PC market. I'd even argue that it's better for Valve if the PC market stays the way it is. It's the best of both worlds for them. After all, Valve makes the majority of their money selling games on Windows, which in turns boosts their handheld ecosystem. And given that Epic's store is a very distant second, it's almost impossible to avoid Steam if you're a PC gamer. I imagine a regular consumer is going to take that into consideration when looking for a PC handheld. Unless someone is deeply invested in Epic/GoG, Windows based handhelds can easily become a niche, and niches aren't guaranteed to last. You said it yourself, Microsoft has not done anything to stay competitive in this space. I don't want to say it's a guarantee, but there's a lane there where Steam handhelds completely overtake the PC handheld market. And given Microsoft's track record with previous devices, they might not care as long as Steam users are buying games on Windows PCs. And I seriously doubt the Windows PC gaming market is going to be in trouble any time soon.

 

[1078mac]

I mean you said it yourself, Windows based handhelds have been around for years long before the current push: they aren't going away. This is the start of Valve really pushing SteamOS as an alternative gaming operating system, but SteamOS is still not windows. As stated it only has access to a singular storefront/launcher and doesn't support every game (even those on Steam). While it is expected that Valve will inevitably grow the list of supported games, they will never make that every game just due to compatibility issues with legacy software and licensing and what not. SteamOS currently still has issues with DRM and anticheat games.

Not everything has to be the death of something else. That's one thing I really hate seeing on the internet. The overexaggerated XYZ-killer. Even now I'm seeing a LOT of news articles titled that the Steam Deck is dead because of this. It's like people want to live in a monopoly. I see this as a good wave of healthy competition. Much needed healthy competition. It's not like an alternative to windows for gaming is new. Heck, current windows handheld users have been able to download Bazzite (which offers a SteamOS like experience) for the longest. As a gaming OS, Windows has been sitting on its laurels for the past well ever. They were the default only option for the most part and knew that. Microsoft hasn't really done anything to actually stay competitive in the space (even when they literally created a gaming platform in Xbox). Now Apple is pushing more for PC gaming support on MacOS and through SteamOS Valve is heralding gaming on Linux. The majority of gamers are still going to be on windows for a long time and every PC game will likely continue to support windows in a way they just don't or can't on other operating systems. Not to mention that the vast majority of benefits that people equate to PC gaming will continue to only be available on Windows and when it comes to non-gaming uses Windows will continue to offer users a lot as well. Part of the allure of a Windows handheld is that it's just a Windows PC and that makes it usable for work and play.

I think it's very telling that Microsoft sent an Xbox exec to this event specifically to be part of the PC gaming handheld discussions. There's probably a lot of internal conversations going on for how to keep Windows as the number 1 gaming PC OS for decades to come, and how to combat losing market share in this space. That's a very good thing. I also think that with how much cheaper the SteamOS license cost is and how that leads to much lower prices, we'll continue to see these SteamOS handhelds hit markets with a console like experience and a console like price, and I hope that means we'll similarly see disruption in the console market with gamers questioning why the value of their consoles have stagnated so much (Nintendo and Sony don't even offer free cloud saves). That's also a very good thing. It looks like we're set to see much needed competition in places that there hasn't been in the gaming industry. That'll hopefully make all these companies wake up and compete to give us more value and just in general a better experience. The MOST improvements I've ever seen to the Xbox App on PC came post Steam Deck as the Xbox App on PC tried to really benefit from the Windows handhelds coming out and offer a more intuitive experience. That's what I expect to see more of.

Except the PC Xbox app is still not very good and quite frankly a disappointment on handhelds. So while I agree MS knows they need to do something they are not iterating with urgency and have no clear strategy to share. That app should be universal everywhere including Linux and it should be the same interface used on Xbox. At this point they need to deliver a truly good and cohesive experience with zero excuses and it should be here yesterday, but it isn't.