I'm a little more hopeful that it will happen because I would be returning it to the Microsoft Store using my warranty, where they replace the defective version with new stock they have in store right then. If they're out of 810s, I could be in luck. Depends on what the Microsoft Store here actually does... they could have shelved the 810s and kept stock on hand in the back, but as a retail store I still think it is much more likely they would discount them and sell them to make their money back, rather than keep a bunch around waiting for people with warranties that may not ever even use them.T- Mobile always prices their stuff higher. The 520 is for $150, but the 521 is $200 in store. Their MO is always that you save more on the monthly bill so it's OK for the handset to be more expensive, or in reality for most phones - closer to their unlocked MSRP. I doubt they will replace broken or defect 810s with 925s. They probably can cobble up an 810 if you sent it back for returns.
Ugh... I might have to. I HATE doing that, because I think I have a couple of apps on my phone that were pulled from the marketplace, and I also have at least one app that was free and turned paid - but since I downloaded while free, I keep getting updates for the paid version and have no ads (plus other features I think). After a reset, I will no longer have the paid version (since, you know, I haven't actually paid for it, just kind of stuck with it since the beginning). And if it doesn't fix the problem I will have lost some apps and have to reconfigure many of my in-app settings.Mystic: Hate to suggest this, but have you tried doing a reset?
My phone from January (I replaced it a few times since I got it in November) ends in 38,963 (minus the last digit, of course). I must have got some really old stockDo we know how many 810s were produced?
I know that a phone from Oct. 2012 has an IMEI beginning with 3545910504xxxxx
So at this point there were produced about 40,000 units since the last digit is a check digit.
I understand. I just reset my phone the other day. My "other" hit 3 gig suddenly (don't know why) and the phone actually slowed down. So I bit the bullet and did a backup, then reset.Ugh... I might have to. I HATE doing that, because I think I have a couple of apps on my phone that were pulled from the marketplace, and I also have at least one app that was free and turned paid - but since I downloaded while free, I keep getting updates for the paid version and have no ads (plus other features I think). After a reset, I will no longer have the paid version (since, you know, I haven't actually paid for it, just kind of stuck with it since the beginning). And if it doesn't fix the problem I will have lost some apps and have to reconfigure many of my in-app settings.
Holding down the power and volume down buttons at the same time until the phone vibrates and restarts does the exact same as a battery pull. You still shouldn't install WWF on your 920 - the app is way too buggy.I also refuse to play it on my still new 920 just for that very reason. Can't do a battery pull on it, of course.
Holding down the power and volume down buttons at the same time until the phone vibrates and restarts does the exact same as a battery pull. You still shouldn't install WWF on your 920 - the app is way too buggy.
How long did you hold the buttons down? Sometimes I have to hold them down for what seems like forever. That soft reset method is supposed to always work, like a hardware override, and if it doesn't that's kinda scary. It seems that would mean that an app could semi-brick your phone if you couldn't remove the battery (though I suppose you could just also wait until the battery died, however long that would take. So it wouldn't necessarily fully "brick" the device...)If I remember correctly, I did actually try to soft reset, but it didn't respond. That was why I went with the battery pull. I did actually install WWF on my 920 but haven't dared to open it. Yeah, I'm probably going to just uninstall it. I'd rather play it on my iPhone 4 or on my computer.
How long did you hold the buttons down? Sometimes I have to hold them down for what seems like forever. That soft reset method is supposed to always work, like a hardware override, and if it doesn't that's kinda scary. It seems that would mean that an app could semi-brick your phone if you couldn't remove the battery (though I suppose you could just also wait until the battery died, however long that would take. So it wouldn't necessarily fully "brick" the device...)
Good. It's also off my 810I actually uninstalled WWF from my 920 yesterday. Definitely not willing to take any chances.
My guess is T-Mobile will do what they did at the WP8 launch and say they are on board. They probably are. If I were to guess, the 925 and 521 will get 8.1, and mostly likely the 8X. The 810...well...
I have a feeling that we will get newer firmware with MS GDR2 and Nokia Amber. They are supposed to come out roughly at the same time.
If we don't... I hate to think about what the fallout from it would be like.
can only hope for the best... surely crossing my fingers and TOES... and pretty sure ALOT of us 810 owners will be very very VERYYYY pissed should TMo decide not to
I think there is a serious problem comparing the 8.x updates to the 7.8 update in any fashion... The 7.8 update was buggy from the start and the initial releases didn't pass T-Mo's testing. Face it, T-Mo would have rather left people holding the bag on 7.5 with working live tiles and devices that functioned rather than getting the ability to change tile sizes and add a few colors.
When you get down to the Focus S, debranding it was the way to go there. It was a simple XML execution and the device was wide open to any updates that Samsung pushed out. I'm hopeful that this will be the case going forward with all WP devices as MS pushes out the 8.x updates. Try it and if it works great, if not, get a new phone...