lumia denim updates for lumia 1020? what are applicable for 1020?

[realwarder]

I'd hope the promised faster time to shoot may be possible (to differing degrees) as I suspect this is a whole chain of app/OS/firmware optimizations, some of which will apply to all Lumia's.

I believe I heard them say that the flash/non flash blending/HDR was coming to all phones too.

 

[Greywolf1967]

Out of curiosity, were you comparing them on a 4K display? If not, there's an obvious reason you don't see the difference.

One TV had 1080p demo footage, the other had 4K demo. The 1080 on the 1080 display, and 4K on the 4K display.

As I said I just don't see as much of a change between that and going 640 x 480 to 720 or 1080.

Maybe it's my sight....just seems to my mind to be a fad like 3D TV. I passed on that as watching a TV in 3D hurt my eyes.

 

[Ralph Anthony Enriquez]

how i wish. no sightings of successor for lumia 1020 and at least don't left this device, ms should add features that is formerly present and capable for lumia 1020

 

[Ralph Anthony Enriquez]

im a lumia 1020 user and 4k video is not that important for me as long as the camera features doesn't decline.

 

[dezzilakk]

One TV had 1080p demo footage, the other had 4K demo. The 1080 on the 1080 display, and 4K on the 4K display.

As I said I just don't see as much of a change between that and going 640 x 480 to 720 or 1080.

Maybe it's my sight....just seems to my mind to be a fad like 3D TV. I passed on that as watching a TV in 3D hurt my eyes.

If you can't see the difference between 640x480 to 1080... It's your sight.

 

[SlideWRX]

Certainly I would like to know what parts of Denim apply to the 1020, however I think it will be months before that is clarified.

1. the gimmick with 4K is that same gimmick as with a 41 MP camera; loss-less zoom after the fact. No, we won't upload and show 4K video generally, but we can pan and zoom it to make a better 1080 video. Just like we can zoom/reframe our 5Mp shots. An 8Mp burst mode would still be appreciated! :smile:

2. "FullHD Moment capture for 24 seconds" is irrelevant to the 1020; It can do 1080p recording at 30 fps currently. I use Movie Maker app to pull specific frames to capture baby moments. yes it is progressive not interlaced.

3. The Camera does ~40Mp every ~4.5 seconds currently;Less than 10 Mp/second. The HD video is 1920x1080x30 fps; about 60 Mp/second. *If* the 60 Mp is practically a limit to output, there is still hope to improve shot to shot time, possibly down to 1 second or less. Sure there are excuses why this might not happen; pureview 'processing' etc., but 60 Mp/second might not be the limit either. Nokia mentions 'over 1 billion pixels /second' of processing for the full HD video, so who knows what the real limit to the phone is. That infers it is processing ~34 Mp for every frame of HD video. :shocked:

 

[J Ice70]

I had seen a demo of 4k video on a 4k screen where they did split screen of 4k vs. 1080. It was not very noticeable for me until the video scrolled by newspaper clippings, at which point the text on the 4k was easily readable and the text at 1080 was hard to decipher. So 4k is noticeable in some situations but not always.

Atleast for me.

 

[J Ice70]

It seems the features on the software that support the new Denim firmware rely on multiple shot from the camera in order to gain the desired effect. If the shot to shot rate of the 1020 just can't keep up with the scene, it's in MS best interest not to make them available. Rich capture mode relies on two photos, one with and one without flash. If the scene changes too much between the two shots, the results will be terrible. For those who understand the hardware/software limitations, it may be acceptable, but for casual users it could lower opinions of Windows phone.

Just imagine someone saying to a potential Lumia buyer "my friend has the Lumia 1020 which has the best camera on windows phone, he kept trying to take pictures the other night and it didn't work. My Galaxy S5 blows it away." Sure the guy saying that may have been drunk, trying to mug the camera and moving in and out, but his opinion fair of not could influence peoples opinions of the entire product line.

The 1020 may be very good at what it does, but if it does not work well with the new software, then it's best it does not get it.

 

[asim311]

lumia 1020 needs denim update for 4k video if microsoft did not update 4k video and cortana feautres in lumia 1020 ... microsoft mind it the users of lumia1020 disheart and microsoft go to down in the world of cmpetision bcz lumia 1020 best camera phne in the world and lumia 1020 user proud for lumia 1020 pls microsoft think about seriously about lumia 1020 features.... ASIM PAKISTAN

 

[asim311]

lumia 1020 needs denim update for 4k video if microsoft did not update 4k video and cortana feautres in lumia 1020 ... microsoft mind it the users of lumia1020 disheart and microsoft go to down in the world of cmpetision bcz lumia 1020 best camera phne in the world and lumia 1020 user proud for lumia 1020 pls microsoft think about seriously about lumia 1020 features.... ASIM PAKISTAN