vsmh96
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Just sharing my bittersweet experience with Nokia/Microsoft Care Malaysia.
7th June 2015 (6:22p.m)
Let?s start from the beginning, I got myself the Nokia Lumia 920 back in 2014/2013 (Insert exact date here). For quite a bargain. It worked fine, after I reset it with the Nokia Software Recovery Tool (NSRT for short). There was only one physical damage to the screen (upper part near the earpiece and the secondary camera) I believe that it was a result of someone trying to pry it open (probably to remove dust from the secondary cam (common issue with the 920). It went on for some time. The guy who sold it to me said it was a Malaysian set (we get updates based on region and GSM network(for calls and SMSs) is also location decided), it was in fact an African set (Uganda)
Then came the time Cyan update was finally launched for that region (Uganda). I hesitated after reading numerous horror stories about the update, they include : Heat Issues, Battery Drain and the camera failing to launch (The camera is the most important feature of this phone and I didn?t want to lose the ability to snap pictures). I stayed off for some time, then finally after months I updated it to Cyan, here is where the issues started. It really heated up (not warm, but hot to touch) especially near the motherboard usually when I use data connection (I do not have constant WiFi so yeah). Soon enough, the screen developed what we call ?screen burn-in? a yellowish tint resulting from heat. I then enrolled in the Developer preview program (PDF) and got Denim (the latest update) since it wasn?t available in Uganda (and still is unavailable last I checked on Friday). The heat did go away, but now the screen would flicker (insert email to Nokia and Mr. Stephen Elop here). I contacted Microsoft (since they bought the mobile division of Nokia). Told them my issues and I sincerely believed that the software caused the overheating, screen burn in and damaged it till the point that it would flicker. After about a week, the local Nokia Care center called me up. Saying that Microsoft gave them the green light to proceed with repairs out of goodwill. Its about to get interesting from here on.
3rd April 2015
I sent the device in personally and took care of the paperwork and double checked that they knew what issues I was experiencing. I left with a Nokia Lumia 520 as a temporary loan phone. I called twice or trice in between to check the status and also checked online. SOP is that it will be done within 2 weeks. That was not true. I got a call on the 6th saying that they will proceed with repairs as no water damage was found at 2.50p.m from 03-79321101. Apparently, they only decided to order my parts on the 27th of April, which sounds a little off to me (what did they do in between?).
8th May 2015
Finally, they called me and I went and took my baby back after so long and numerous lost chances to snap low light pictures in Johore Bahru beside Singapore (I had a short visit). They changed the display and motherboard, yay, brand new (*claps*). I did a check on the spot to see if anything was wrong, nothing seemed wrong. Until I got home, there was dust in camera module (covered by the phone body itself) and my tiny part in my sim holder was lost. I then returned on the 14th to get it sorted out (3rd visit so far), they did. The tomboyish lady however said there was no such thing on my sim holder (in person) and the same by the technician after being asked by Michelle (I Called Her). What jokers, I know my phone well, I see it naked almost daily and you mean to say I missed out or was mistaken over a small tiny missing part? Then things seemed to finally settle down.
Change of events
25th May (Monday)
While fondling my phone over and over again, something was different again. As a user who snaps quite a lot I noticed some sound from the body (between cam and power button). To best describe it, it sounded like a press of a mechanical pencil. Annoying. I had never encountered it previously.
26th May (Tuesday)
Called Nokia Care center (NCC) and spoke to Michelle whom asked the technician, he (I do not know the sex of the person) suspected that it was either display not fitting in or a bad fit by the phone body cover. Recommended an evaluation at NCC which I did send over to get done (personally) on the 27th (Wednesday) . They then said that it was the cover and it would cost RM 276.50 (basically to me it signals it as being my fault now). I left. I couldn?t pay for such a thing and my parents certainly would not agree to it. (4th visit)
29th May (Friday)
(Name removed) from MS mobile called, we had a chat and along the way suggested that perhaps it may be wear and tear (for a while yes, It seemed to be the case). However after some thinking, it sounded ridiculous. No one pressed that area and it only started after dust removal from the camera. This led me to believe that the person who opened it probably didn?t do it in a gentle or correct manner (I?ve personally opened it while using a YouTube video as reference, yes it wasn?t easy, so perhaps the person had the same issue and decided to anyhow remove it and get the job done). He said there will be no guarantee with regard to this issue.
2nd June (Tuesday)
(Name removed) called again and I told him that I would sent it in right away after the call ( I want it to be solved ASAP too) said I could get it back the same day if it?s a minor issue and told me to send it in for another evaluation. At NCC however, the buff Malay guy said id have to leave it, apparently told to do so by MS (so who?s lying here?). I did, reluctantly and took the 520 on loan again (it too had issues since the first time). (5th visit)
5th June (11.58 a.m) (Friday)
I got a call from NCC, it was (name removed), the head of department (also the lady who first attended to me when I sent it in on April 3rd 2015) . She said that they replaced the body case FOC and asked if I had any other concerns or issues, (so that it would be resolved finally) I did not have any. Unfortunately this time, flash didn?t work (It is due to the new body casing, the inner pins did not get into contact with the flash plate on the new case). It would work if I applied pressure near the flash. Oh god. What in the world? Looks like another trip and call to NCC). Haiz (*sigh*). (6th visit)
8th June 2015
I called (Name removed) right after my class and then went to NCC right after college. Arrived at about 2.30 and was served right away (not many people). I did notice a guy I've never seen previously. The guy sitting beside him (the buff Malay guy) had the unhappy face expression or here comes trouble expression (its my interpretation of course). Told him my issue and showed him that it would work if I applied pressure. He sent it in to the technician and came back in less than 5/10 minutes. 'Viola' it was done and settled. What I did notice is that 2 people who work there uses an iPhone. I was also told that there are 6 different technicians. So perhaps the one who fixed my issue knew what he was doing or acquired the experience after my many visits. It only takes one technician to be unhappy with MS or Nokia devices or even being sloppy to mess up the whole damn experience. It is important to note that there have been better stories or experiences with Nokia Care Centers in their country, the ones whom were less fortunate and the ones like mine. I truly hope that some kind of revamp is enroute. It should reduce costs, frustration and increase customer satisfaction in the long run.
28 September 2015
9.36 pm
Upon checking, Uganda still does not have the Denim update. The delays in pushing out an update will definitely not play well with those who have purchased a Lumia which still does not have Denim while the rest of the world has it.
As of last week I discovered that data usage with 64kbps as max speeds (which is free) offered by many telcos in Malaysia seems to heat the phone up more than using a high speed data. I used both Maxis and Digi and my now on Celcom which by far have only felt it get warm. Thought I?d just point it out.
7th June 2015 (6:22p.m)
Let?s start from the beginning, I got myself the Nokia Lumia 920 back in 2014/2013 (Insert exact date here). For quite a bargain. It worked fine, after I reset it with the Nokia Software Recovery Tool (NSRT for short). There was only one physical damage to the screen (upper part near the earpiece and the secondary camera) I believe that it was a result of someone trying to pry it open (probably to remove dust from the secondary cam (common issue with the 920). It went on for some time. The guy who sold it to me said it was a Malaysian set (we get updates based on region and GSM network(for calls and SMSs) is also location decided), it was in fact an African set (Uganda)
Then came the time Cyan update was finally launched for that region (Uganda). I hesitated after reading numerous horror stories about the update, they include : Heat Issues, Battery Drain and the camera failing to launch (The camera is the most important feature of this phone and I didn?t want to lose the ability to snap pictures). I stayed off for some time, then finally after months I updated it to Cyan, here is where the issues started. It really heated up (not warm, but hot to touch) especially near the motherboard usually when I use data connection (I do not have constant WiFi so yeah). Soon enough, the screen developed what we call ?screen burn-in? a yellowish tint resulting from heat. I then enrolled in the Developer preview program (PDF) and got Denim (the latest update) since it wasn?t available in Uganda (and still is unavailable last I checked on Friday). The heat did go away, but now the screen would flicker (insert email to Nokia and Mr. Stephen Elop here). I contacted Microsoft (since they bought the mobile division of Nokia). Told them my issues and I sincerely believed that the software caused the overheating, screen burn in and damaged it till the point that it would flicker. After about a week, the local Nokia Care center called me up. Saying that Microsoft gave them the green light to proceed with repairs out of goodwill. Its about to get interesting from here on.
3rd April 2015
I sent the device in personally and took care of the paperwork and double checked that they knew what issues I was experiencing. I left with a Nokia Lumia 520 as a temporary loan phone. I called twice or trice in between to check the status and also checked online. SOP is that it will be done within 2 weeks. That was not true. I got a call on the 6th saying that they will proceed with repairs as no water damage was found at 2.50p.m from 03-79321101. Apparently, they only decided to order my parts on the 27th of April, which sounds a little off to me (what did they do in between?).
8th May 2015
Finally, they called me and I went and took my baby back after so long and numerous lost chances to snap low light pictures in Johore Bahru beside Singapore (I had a short visit). They changed the display and motherboard, yay, brand new (*claps*). I did a check on the spot to see if anything was wrong, nothing seemed wrong. Until I got home, there was dust in camera module (covered by the phone body itself) and my tiny part in my sim holder was lost. I then returned on the 14th to get it sorted out (3rd visit so far), they did. The tomboyish lady however said there was no such thing on my sim holder (in person) and the same by the technician after being asked by Michelle (I Called Her). What jokers, I know my phone well, I see it naked almost daily and you mean to say I missed out or was mistaken over a small tiny missing part? Then things seemed to finally settle down.
Change of events
25th May (Monday)
While fondling my phone over and over again, something was different again. As a user who snaps quite a lot I noticed some sound from the body (between cam and power button). To best describe it, it sounded like a press of a mechanical pencil. Annoying. I had never encountered it previously.
26th May (Tuesday)
Called Nokia Care center (NCC) and spoke to Michelle whom asked the technician, he (I do not know the sex of the person) suspected that it was either display not fitting in or a bad fit by the phone body cover. Recommended an evaluation at NCC which I did send over to get done (personally) on the 27th (Wednesday) . They then said that it was the cover and it would cost RM 276.50 (basically to me it signals it as being my fault now). I left. I couldn?t pay for such a thing and my parents certainly would not agree to it. (4th visit)
29th May (Friday)
(Name removed) from MS mobile called, we had a chat and along the way suggested that perhaps it may be wear and tear (for a while yes, It seemed to be the case). However after some thinking, it sounded ridiculous. No one pressed that area and it only started after dust removal from the camera. This led me to believe that the person who opened it probably didn?t do it in a gentle or correct manner (I?ve personally opened it while using a YouTube video as reference, yes it wasn?t easy, so perhaps the person had the same issue and decided to anyhow remove it and get the job done). He said there will be no guarantee with regard to this issue.
2nd June (Tuesday)
(Name removed) called again and I told him that I would sent it in right away after the call ( I want it to be solved ASAP too) said I could get it back the same day if it?s a minor issue and told me to send it in for another evaluation. At NCC however, the buff Malay guy said id have to leave it, apparently told to do so by MS (so who?s lying here?). I did, reluctantly and took the 520 on loan again (it too had issues since the first time). (5th visit)
5th June (11.58 a.m) (Friday)
I got a call from NCC, it was (name removed), the head of department (also the lady who first attended to me when I sent it in on April 3rd 2015) . She said that they replaced the body case FOC and asked if I had any other concerns or issues, (so that it would be resolved finally) I did not have any. Unfortunately this time, flash didn?t work (It is due to the new body casing, the inner pins did not get into contact with the flash plate on the new case). It would work if I applied pressure near the flash. Oh god. What in the world? Looks like another trip and call to NCC). Haiz (*sigh*). (6th visit)
8th June 2015
I called (Name removed) right after my class and then went to NCC right after college. Arrived at about 2.30 and was served right away (not many people). I did notice a guy I've never seen previously. The guy sitting beside him (the buff Malay guy) had the unhappy face expression or here comes trouble expression (its my interpretation of course). Told him my issue and showed him that it would work if I applied pressure. He sent it in to the technician and came back in less than 5/10 minutes. 'Viola' it was done and settled. What I did notice is that 2 people who work there uses an iPhone. I was also told that there are 6 different technicians. So perhaps the one who fixed my issue knew what he was doing or acquired the experience after my many visits. It only takes one technician to be unhappy with MS or Nokia devices or even being sloppy to mess up the whole damn experience. It is important to note that there have been better stories or experiences with Nokia Care Centers in their country, the ones whom were less fortunate and the ones like mine. I truly hope that some kind of revamp is enroute. It should reduce costs, frustration and increase customer satisfaction in the long run.
28 September 2015
9.36 pm
Upon checking, Uganda still does not have the Denim update. The delays in pushing out an update will definitely not play well with those who have purchased a Lumia which still does not have Denim while the rest of the world has it.
As of last week I discovered that data usage with 64kbps as max speeds (which is free) offered by many telcos in Malaysia seems to heat the phone up more than using a high speed data. I used both Maxis and Digi and my now on Celcom which by far have only felt it get warm. Thought I?d just point it out.
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