T-Mobile no longer selling 640 online

I would think all companies do whats good for them. Seems to me T-Mobile has been growing steadily so I would say they must be doing something right for their customers.

That might be true if you were on Sprint using android or IOS. Much of their growth is because sprint is so lousy. They are not growing because of their selection of Windows phones, I promise you that.
 
The WalMart that I work at still has the 640s in stock I believe. That's where I got mine on ATT&T.

Sprints offerings for Windows Phone was appalling when I was with them. One of the reasons why I switched carriers.
 
I noticed that 3 Walmart's that we haunt here still have both versions available.
Fry's Electronics in this area also carries both AT&T and T-Mobile 640's.

The phones are probably selling out in certain areas and might be why they're a little tough to find.
 
Microsoft has also stopped selling them. So the tmobile variation is dead officially.

However the metropcs version is still being sold which is effectively tmobile
 
Microsoft has also stopped selling them. So the tmobile variation is dead officially.

However the metropcs version is still being sold which is effectively tmobile
I saw one of the Metropcs versions at Walmart too, recently. However, I noticed that on the website, you can only find it in a store. You can't "add to cart" like you can with some of the other phones.
 
I'm glad I was able to get one especially after getting Wi-Fi calling to work on PTEL a t-mobile mvno.
 
Why does tmo sell that phone for more than you can get it for from AT&T?
I think it stems from the fact that TMO service is less expensive. You can pay as you go for $3 a month - or get the Walmart special and pay $30 a month for unlimited data (first 5 GB at LTE) unlimited text + 100 min voice. The lowest monthly unlimited plan starts at only $35, so its easily worth the extra $20.
 
Seems to me T-Mo is all about what's good for them rather than what customers want. AT&T seems to me to want to carry what people want. If not for AT&T, Iphone might not have gotten off the ground. Verizon turned them down. Sprint was all about the HTC Evo and TMo was trying to keep the lights on.

Of course AT&T tries to carry what people want. This keeps customers and therefore it is good for them. The nature of business is to do what is good for the business. I think T-mobile probably thought that the sales didn't meet expectations and therefore quit selling the line. With the larger amount of subscribers with AT&T, they are more likely to have a larger interest in the phone. Keeping the price cheap helps and they probably make very little if any money on the phone itself. They make their money on selling their service.
 
Seems to me T-Mo is all about what's good for them rather than what customers want. AT&T seems to me to want to carry what people want. If not for AT&T, Iphone might not have gotten off the ground. Verizon turned them down. Sprint was all about the HTC Evo and TMo was trying to keep the lights on.
Don't forget also without Verizon, android may not have been the success it is. Since att had the iPhone, Verizon took on droid and that was the actual beginning of Androids rise to power.

I wish lumia could get that kind of carrier backing like droid got but that would mean Microsoft would have to...gasp....advertise Lumia.
 
Don't forget also without Verizon, android may not have been the success it is. Since att had the iPhone, Verizon took on droid and that was the actual beginning of Androids rise to power.

I don't think that the situation is the same today as it was in 2007. Android filled a vacuum. Microsoft is directly competing in a place that has no vacuum. They are trying to do exactly what iOS and Android are already doing.

Microsoft needs to create a new space; that way they would be the first one there. This goes along with other posts I've seen in this forum about how Microsoft needs to leapfrog the competition, not merely catch up or even surpass slightly.
 
I don't think that the situation is the same today as it was in 2007. Android filled a vacuum. Microsoft is directly competing in a place that has no vacuum. They are trying to do exactly what iOS and Android are already doing.

Microsoft needs to create a new space; that way they would be the first one there. This goes along with other posts I've seen in this forum about how Microsoft needs to leapfrog the competition, not merely catch up or even surpass slightly.

I think Hololens is that space for them. They have created something great and has a load of potential but they need to market it right, price it right and get it out before others catch up.
 
I think Hololens is that space for them. They have created something great and has a load of potential but they need to market it right, price it right and get it out before others catch up.

True, but that's got nothing to do with WP/W10M! It is a completely separate field.
 
True, but that's got nothing to do with WP/W10M! It is a completely separate field.
You said create a new space, you didn't specify where the space needed to be :)

Furthermore, utilizing Hololens and partnering it with hardware such as your Lumia could be a killer combo IF done properly.
I still don't know how Microsoft has not yet managed to leverage Xbox into mobile the way Sony did with PlayStation.
 
You said create a new space, you didn't specify where the space needed to be :)

Well yes you have a valid point there! :winktongue:

My point was that Microsoft is trying to create just another smartphone that directly competes with iOS and Android, and has roughly the same capabilities. This gives consumers little reason to switch.

Microsoft needs to create the next big thing, like Apple did in 2007. Apple essentially created the space, but didn't fill it completely. Android finished the job. There is no room for someone else with just more of the same thing.

It is true that Hololens could eventually become a factor in mobile. That'll be awhile yet though if it every happens. Hololens itself is a year out, and then enterprise only the way it sounds. Who knows where the mobile industry will be by then?
 
Oh how do u get Wi-Fi calling working on an mvno?
One day I signed into my ptel account and out of nowhere it had an option to set up Wi-fi calling and they don't even advertise that they offer it so I was surprised lol. It did at first tell me sorry your device is not compatible but around 24hr's later I saw the little phone symbol next to my wi-fi signal icon.
 
One day I signed into my ptel account and out of nowhere it had an option to set up Wi-fi calling and they don't even advertise that they offer it so I was surprised lol. It did at first tell me sorry your device is not compatible but around 24hr's later I saw the little phone symbol next to my wi-fi signal icon.

That does sounds pretty cool actually :D I wonder if this is the case with all T-Mobile mvnos.
 

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